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Valve and Competitive TF2
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#391
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wareyaTF2 is worse for cheating than CSGO because of projectiles and butt-buddying, but that might change if we get better comp support.

projectile hacks exist/have existed (see ametrine video) but yeah, i hope this means valve's gonna make vac better for tf2 when the mming system comes out

[quote=wareya]TF2 is worse for cheating than CSGO because of projectiles and butt-buddying, but that might change if we get better comp support.[/quote]
projectile hacks exist/have existed (see [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBdXWURxMEc]ametrine video)[/url] but yeah, i hope this means valve's gonna make vac better for tf2 when the mming system comes out
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#392
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AdmirableToday was a good day. Good night brethren 8)

I thought you were focusing on your future career.

Got new plans? 8)

[quote=Admirable]Today was a good day. Good night brethren 8)[/quote]
I thought you were focusing on your future career.

Got new plans? 8)
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#393
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Tbh if vac actually detected lmaobox premium that would wipe out more than half of the cheaters.

Tbh if vac actually detected lmaobox premium that would wipe out more than half of the cheaters.
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#394
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but then how else am i going to get good

but then how else am i going to get good
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#395
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I am pretty excited for this, and hopefully this will lead to Valve making TF2 a big E-Sport, like Dota 2 and CS GO

I am pretty excited for this, and hopefully this will lead to Valve making TF2 a big E-Sport, like Dota 2 and CS GO
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#396
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APPROVED BY THE MAN

https://0verhyped.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/1202983-gabe_newell_2_smaugust22.jpg

BASED GOD

APPROVED BY THE MAN

[img]https://0verhyped.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/1202983-gabe_newell_2_smaugust22.jpg[/img]

BASED GOD
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#397
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anyone else autistic here

anyone else autistic here
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#398
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catastropheanyone else autistic here

i was wondering if you were still alive

i think i asked corey and a few other team bad ppl if you still existed and they didn't know????????

[quote=catastrophe]anyone else autistic here[/quote]
i was wondering if you were still alive

i think i asked corey and a few other team bad ppl if you still existed and they didn't know????????
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#399
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should i return 2 da game to put kids in the ownzone????
edit: i can still plus frag myself the site is in gr8 shape

should i return 2 da game to put kids in the ownzone????
edit: i can still plus frag myself the site is in gr8 shape
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#400
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Foxcatastropheanyone else autistic herei was wondering if you were still alive

i think i asked corey and a few other team bad ppl if you still existed and they didn't know????????

after u win open there really is no where else to go in this world, ive hit the peak of my life and now i do hard manual labor 10 hours a day

[quote=Fox][quote=catastrophe]anyone else autistic here[/quote]
i was wondering if you were still alive

i think i asked corey and a few other team bad ppl if you still existed and they didn't know????????[/quote]

after u win open there really is no where else to go in this world, ive hit the peak of my life and now i do hard manual labor 10 hours a day
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#401
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i think it might be time to start playin tf2 again!

i think it might be time to start playin tf2 again!
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#402
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ghos7ayamashould i return 2 da game to put kids in the ownzone????
edit: i can still plus frag myself the site is in gr8 shape

bill cosby rises again

https://i.imgur.com/JaFxQyH.jpg

[quote=ghos7ayama]should i return 2 da game to put kids in the ownzone????
edit: i can still plus frag myself the site is in gr8 shape[/quote]

bill cosby rises again
[img]https://i.imgur.com/JaFxQyH.jpg[/img]
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#403
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pl3xghos7ayamashould i return 2 da game to put kids in the ownzone????
edit: i can still plus frag myself the site is in gr8 shape

bill cosby rises again
https://i.imgur.com/JaFxQyH.jpg

bill dun goofed now i gotta find something new

[quote=pl3x][quote=ghos7ayama]should i return 2 da game to put kids in the ownzone????
edit: i can still plus frag myself the site is in gr8 shape[/quote]

bill cosby rises again
[img]https://i.imgur.com/JaFxQyH.jpg[/img][/quote]

bill dun goofed now i gotta find something new
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#404
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Well this is some good news for my birthday

Well this is some good news for my birthday
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#405
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yay c:

yay c:
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#406
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TwiggyAdmirableToday was a good day. Good night brethren 8)I thought you were focusing on your future career.

Got new plans? 8)

Thanks for reminding me mom :(
I've still got 11 days for that #Kappa

[quote=Twiggy][quote=Admirable]Today was a good day. Good night brethren 8)[/quote]
I thought you were focusing on your future career.

Got new plans? 8)[/quote]

Thanks for reminding me mom :(
I've still got 11 days for that #Kappa
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#407
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hszJv-P2yNE
*You = TF2compmatchmaking*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hszJv-P2yNE
*You = TF2compmatchmaking*
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#408
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the influx of cheaters striving for australium rank at scout in Official Matchmaking might drive some of u insane in the near future

the influx of cheaters striving for australium rank at scout in Official Matchmaking might drive some of u insane in the near future
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#409
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Those who said 2015 would be a deciding year for TF2 were right

Those who said 2015 would be a deciding year for TF2 were right
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#410
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KanecoErenJayValve should hire gentlemanjohn
Not even kidding, the theory crafting and work Jon put in making all these ranking systems would be a huge help for the tf2 team and matchmaking I'm sure.The mathematical work would be half done with his contribution.

I'm pretty sure they'll have that covered. If it comes out in a way that renders existing stuff obsolete I might be able to write up some interesting stuff I've discovered in my researches tho, instead of having to keep it a secret.

[quote=Kaneco][quote=ErenJay]Valve should hire gentlemanjohn[/quote]

Not even kidding, the theory crafting and work Jon put in making all these ranking systems would be a huge help for the tf2 team and matchmaking I'm sure.The mathematical work would be half done with his contribution.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure they'll have that covered. If it comes out in a way that renders existing stuff obsolete I might be able to write up some interesting stuff I've discovered in my researches tho, instead of having to keep it a secret.
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#411
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NoCourtesyThose who said 2015 would be a deciding year for TF2 were right

Just like 2015 is the year of Linux on the Desktop

Kappa

[quote=NoCourtesy]Those who said 2015 would be a deciding year for TF2 were right[/quote]

Just like 2015 is the year of Linux on the Desktop

Kappa
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#412
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You do realize this will be 9v9 right? Think of it like CSGO. Why is Valve so incredibly adamant about making all the weapons balanced? Is it out of some desire to make a totally balanced game where everything can be used? Fuck no. It's to make money off skins, the more weapons that can be used, the more market transactions, more money for Valve.

Let's translate it to TF2. Well not only do we have specific guns for each class, but we have class specific hats. Are they just going to take 1/3 of the hats/guns in the game and tell everyone to fuck off about it? Are they going to cut 1/3 of their skin profits on a FREE game where that is their only money maker? Hell no. Matchmaking WILL be 9v9. It's the only thing that makes sense from Valve's end. Valve has never cared about the competitive community, in CS or in TF2, hell, not even in Dota. They care about their wallets, and if they can exploit the competitive as a means to an end, they will do it in a heartbeat.

Edit - Am I wrong or something? Or do you guys -frag because it's a harsh truth. If that's the case I'm sorry for hurting your feelings.

You do realize this will be 9v9 right? Think of it like CSGO. Why is Valve so incredibly adamant about making all the weapons balanced? Is it out of some desire to make a totally balanced game where everything can be used? Fuck no. It's to make money off skins, the more weapons that can be used, the more market transactions, more money for Valve.

Let's translate it to TF2. Well not only do we have specific guns for each class, but we have class specific hats. Are they just going to take 1/3 of the hats/guns in the game and tell everyone to fuck off about it? Are they going to cut 1/3 of their skin profits on a FREE game where that is their only money maker? Hell no. Matchmaking WILL be 9v9. It's the only thing that makes sense from Valve's end. Valve has never cared about the competitive community, in CS or in TF2, hell, not even in Dota. They care about their wallets, and if they can exploit the competitive as a means to an end, they will do it in a heartbeat.

Edit - Am I wrong or something? Or do you guys -frag because it's a harsh truth. If that's the case I'm sorry for hurting your feelings.
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#413
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dashnerThanks for the expert analysis.

Wait for fully charged.
dashnerYour questions will be answered on Fully Charged, not here.

Please stop.
[quote=dashner]
Thanks for the expert analysis.

Wait for fully charged.
[/quote]

[quote=dashner]
Your questions will be answered on Fully Charged, not here.

Please stop.
[/quote]
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#414
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DemariniYou do realize this will be 9v9 right?
Matchmaking WILL be 9v9.
Valve has never cared about the competitive community, in CS or in TF2, hell, not even in Dota.
They care about their wallets, and if they can exploit the competitive as a means to an end, they will do it in a heartbeat.

Oh shit dude you were at the meeting and talked to Valve about this stuff?!?! That's sick bro. You know what you should do? You should host a talk show type thing explaining to everybody exactly what happened at the meeting so people don't spread blatant misinformation! Like a podcast. Would really help people from jumping the gun. Thanks, god bless.

[quote=Demarini]
You do realize this will be 9v9 right?
Matchmaking WILL be 9v9.
Valve has never cared about the competitive community, in CS or in TF2, hell, not even in Dota.
They care about their wallets, and if they can exploit the competitive as a means to an end, they will do it in a heartbeat.[/quote]

Oh shit dude you were at the meeting and talked to Valve about this stuff?!?! That's sick bro. You know what you should do? You should host a talk show type thing explaining to everybody exactly what happened at the meeting so people don't spread blatant misinformation! Like a podcast. Would really help people from jumping the gun. Thanks, god bless.
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#415
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I am hopeful that valve isn't looking to turn matchmaking into a full sellout, but it's not out of the question that there will be some kind of squad surplus reward system

I am hopeful that valve isn't looking to turn matchmaking into a full sellout, but it's not out of the question that there will be some kind of squad surplus reward system
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#416
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komorebiDemariniYou do realize this will be 9v9 right?
Matchmaking WILL be 9v9.
Valve has never cared about the competitive community, in CS or in TF2, hell, not even in Dota.
They care about their wallets, and if they can exploit the competitive as a means to an end, they will do it in a heartbeat.

Oh shit dude you were at the meeting and talked to Valve about this stuff?!?! That's sick bro. You know what you should do? You should host a talk show type thing explaining to everybody exactly what happened at the meeting so people don't spread blatant misinformation! Like a podcast type thing. Would really help people from jumping the gun. Thanks, god bless.

Did you not even read my post? I mean logically there is no other choice from Valve's end. If they make matchmaking that will instantly become the most popular thing to play on TF2. Are they going to look at 3 classes, all the hats, and all the weapons people have, all the money they spent, and tell them it's useless? There is just absolutely no fucking way that happens. Especially with highlander already being more popular amongst pubbers(the large majority of the community) than the competitive format...I mean every single thing points to it being 9v9. When has Valve ever cared about the 6v6 format? They pretended to for like..2 months a few years back, but then they realized the money they're making off weapons and skins is so absurd that they're just going to go all in. And they made bank.

Edit - If you can give me one good reason from Valve's end to support the 6v6 format over 9v9, then please do it. I gave you several why Valve will go with 9v9, all very strong points imo. Don't just disregard it out of blind hope, but accept it.

[quote=komorebi][quote=Demarini]
You do realize this will be 9v9 right?
Matchmaking WILL be 9v9.
Valve has never cared about the competitive community, in CS or in TF2, hell, not even in Dota.
They care about their wallets, and if they can exploit the competitive as a means to an end, they will do it in a heartbeat.[/quote]

Oh shit dude you were at the meeting and talked to Valve about this stuff?!?! That's sick bro. You know what you should do? You should host a talk show type thing explaining to everybody exactly what happened at the meeting so people don't spread blatant misinformation! Like a podcast type thing. Would really help people from jumping the gun. Thanks, god bless.[/quote]

Did you not even read my post? I mean logically there is no other choice from Valve's end. If they make matchmaking that will instantly become the most popular thing to play on TF2. Are they going to look at 3 classes, all the hats, and all the weapons people have, all the money they spent, and tell them it's useless? There is just absolutely no fucking way that happens. Especially with highlander already being more popular amongst pubbers(the large majority of the community) than the competitive format...I mean every single thing points to it being 9v9. When has Valve ever cared about the 6v6 format? They pretended to for like..2 months a few years back, but then they realized the money they're making off weapons and skins is so absurd that they're just going to go all in. And they made bank.

Edit - If you can give me one good reason from Valve's end to support the 6v6 format over 9v9, then please do it. I gave you several why Valve will go with 9v9, all very strong points imo. Don't just disregard it out of blind hope, but accept it.
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#417
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Demarinidid you not even read my post? I mean logically there is no other choice from Valve's end. If they make matchmaking that will instantly become the most popular thing to play on TF2. Are they going to look at 3 classes, all the hats, and all the weapons people have, all the money they spent, and tell them it's useless? There is just absolutely no fucking way that happens. Especially with highlander already being more popular amongst pubbers(the large majority of the community) than the competitive format...I mean every single thing points to it being 9v9. When has Valve ever cared about the 6v6 format? They pretended to for like..2 months a few years back, but then they realized the money they're making off weapons and skins is so absurd that they're just going to go all in. And they made bank.

Edit - If you can give me one good reason from Valve's end to support the 6v6 format over 9v9, then please do it. I gave you several why Valve will go with 9v9, all very strong points imo. Don't just disregard it out of blind hope, but accept it.

6v6 has a more dynamic flow of interchanging classes, with offclassing

if people have spent a lot of money on hats they don't need matchmaking in 6s to tell them it was wasted.

Regardless of that, we'll know tomorrow

[quote=Demarini]did you not even read my post? I mean logically there is no other choice from Valve's end. If they make matchmaking that will instantly become the most popular thing to play on TF2. Are they going to look at 3 classes, all the hats, and all the weapons people have, all the money they spent, and tell them it's useless? There is just absolutely no fucking way that happens. Especially with highlander already being more popular amongst pubbers(the large majority of the community) than the competitive format...I mean every single thing points to it being 9v9. When has Valve ever cared about the 6v6 format? They pretended to for like..2 months a few years back, but then they realized the money they're making off weapons and skins is so absurd that they're just going to go all in. And they made bank.

Edit - If you can give me one good reason from Valve's end to support the 6v6 format over 9v9, then please do it. I gave you several why Valve will go with 9v9, all very strong points imo. Don't just disregard it out of blind hope, but accept it.[/quote]
6v6 has a more dynamic flow of interchanging classes, with offclassing

if people have spent a lot of money on hats they don't need matchmaking in 6s to tell them it was wasted.

Regardless of that, we'll know tomorrow
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#418
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#419
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xeroValve will say to new players what theres 6 slots, you can play any class, but if you lose you are bad. What it will do is people will create the metagame what will not be too differrent from todays sixes.

Yeah that will happen.

[quote=xero]Valve will say to new players what theres 6 slots, you can play any class, but if you lose you are bad. What it will do is people will create the metagame what will not be too differrent from todays sixes.[/quote]

Yeah that will happen.
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#420
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