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I did a fresh install of windows 11 and I can't find my HDD in disk management (it's my backup drive, I have an m.2 SSD for my main C drive). Some online remedies suggested to update the BIOS, so after installing the update file on my usb and entering the msi bios menu - I clicked on m flash and then my screen went black (usb still in).

I was expecting some sort window that would select the file from my usb and a screen that shows it's updating the bios, but my screen was black - monitor going into standby. I turned my pc off and on again, but it was the same - even without the usb stick in. Not sure if the motherboard is bricked or not, but maybe somebody has experience in this

I did a fresh install of windows 11 and I can't find my HDD in disk management (it's my backup drive, I have an m.2 SSD for my main C drive). Some online remedies suggested to update the BIOS, so after installing the update file on my usb and entering the msi bios menu - I clicked on m flash and then my screen went black (usb still in).

I was expecting some sort window that would select the file from my usb and a screen that shows it's updating the bios, but my screen was black - monitor going into standby. I turned my pc off and on again, but it was the same - even without the usb stick in. Not sure if the motherboard is bricked or not, but maybe somebody has experience in this
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It auto updates the bios, you don't see anything happen. Turning your pc off while it's updating is literally the last thing you wanna do. You'll need to flash the BIOS again I believe, because now there's just some corrupt version of a BIOS that didn't get fully installed.

It auto updates the bios, you don't see anything happen. Turning your pc off while it's updating is literally the last thing you wanna do. You'll need to flash the BIOS again I believe, because now there's just some corrupt version of a BIOS that didn't get fully installed.
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someone help this guy i need more rahthreads

someone help this guy i need more rahthreads
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hope you have a BIOS button on your motherboard, otherwise you're out of luck and you probably bricked it

hope you have a BIOS button on your motherboard, otherwise you're out of luck and you probably bricked it
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DivineAThope you have a BIOS button on your motherboard, otherwise you're out of luck and you probably bricked it

I have a flash bios button, which I pressed with the usb stick connected to my pc.
It flashed 3 times and did nothing else

[quote=DivineAT]hope you have a BIOS button on your motherboard, otherwise you're out of luck and you probably bricked it[/quote]
I have a flash bios button, which I pressed with the usb stick connected to my pc.
It flashed 3 times and did nothing else
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the bios flashback function can be a little finicky, follow this tutorial and double check everything, make sure everything is right, check that you're plugging it into to the correct USB port and also make sure your USB is formatted to FAT32 or even try multiple flash drives

the bios flashback function can be a little finicky, [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE]follow this tutorial[/url] and double check everything, make sure everything is right, check that you're plugging it into to the correct USB port and also make sure your USB is formatted to FAT32 or even try multiple flash drives
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jyrkasthe bios flashback function can be a little finicky, follow this tutorial and double check everything, make sure everything is right, check that you're plugging it into to the correct USB port and also make sure your USB is formatted to FAT32 or even try multiple flash drives

Done all that, fat32 and renaming- I had a white light flashing instead of red but now it's a solid white colour. Not sure what to do now

[quote=jyrkas]the bios flashback function can be a little finicky, [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE]follow this tutorial[/url] and double check everything, make sure everything is right, check that you're plugging it into to the correct USB port and also make sure your USB is formatted to FAT32 or even try multiple flash drives[/quote]
Done all that, fat32 and renaming- I had a white light flashing instead of red but now it's a solid white colour. Not sure what to do now
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its done, turn off pc by holding power and reboot

its done, turn off pc by holding power and reboot
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Quick update: been following this guide and it turns out, for my Ryzen 5 3600 cpu I need an older bios file than the one I downloaded (the one on my usb is for newer cpu's ig). I still get a solid light with the correct bios file now

The guide in question: https://youtu.be/PdKKDt3Fgfk

Quick update: been following this guide and it turns out, for my Ryzen 5 3600 cpu I need an older bios file than the one I downloaded (the one on my usb is for newer cpu's ig). I still get a solid light with the correct bios file now

The guide in question: https://youtu.be/PdKKDt3Fgfk
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I dont see why the latest b450 bios should cause issues for a 3600
I'm running v1H1 (may 2023 bios for my board) but I plopped a 3700x into my motherboard to test last month and it worked fine
what size is the usb youre using?
edit: some boards power off after completing and some stay on. I use this and the board stays on with a solid light when its done. this is probably a dumb question but you did test it after the white light became solid right?

I dont see why the latest b450 bios should cause issues for a 3600
I'm running v1H1 (may 2023 bios for my board) but I plopped a 3700x into my motherboard to test last month and it worked fine
what size is the usb youre using?
edit: some boards power off after completing and some stay on. I use [url=https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-GAMING-PLUS/support]this[/url] and the board stays on with a solid light when its done. this is probably a dumb question but you did test it after the white light became solid right?
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What motherboard do you have? Sometimes you need to be on a certain BIOS version in order to update to the next one/latest one. It's like this for my motherboard at least.

What motherboard do you have? Sometimes you need to be on a certain BIOS version in order to update to the next one/latest one. It's like this for my motherboard at least.
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Mobo = B450-A pro max
Usb = 64gb (56gb shown on file explorer) exFat (only option to format besides NTFS)

Tomorrow I will strip my motherboard until only the power is connected (have been trying to update with cpu/gpu/ram still in) and phone up msi help.

If worse comes to worst and I find it's bricked, is there a recommended better motherboard I can buy?

Cpu = Ryzen 5 3600
DDR4-3000 CL15 ram sticks and this m.2 ssd

Mobo = B450-A pro max
Usb = 64gb (56gb shown on file explorer) exFat (only option to format besides NTFS)

Tomorrow I will strip my motherboard until only the power is connected (have been trying to update with cpu/gpu/ram still in) and phone up msi help.

If worse comes to worst and I find it's bricked, is there a recommended better motherboard I can buy?

Cpu = Ryzen 5 3600
DDR4-3000 CL15 ram sticks and [url=https://amzn.eu/d/7jIQslc]this m.2[/url] ssd
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RahmedMobo = B450-A pro max
Usb = 64gb (56gb shown on file explorer) exFat (only option to format besides NTFS)

This is probably your issue, the filesystem almost definitely has to be FAT32, and you'll want to use an MBR not GPT. Most people recommend a 16GB or smaller drive, but 64 will probably be fine and you could always try making the partition smaller than 16GB if it still doesn't work. Google should be able to walk you through how to get it formatted correctly. It's also worth trying a USB 2.0 drive if you're using a USB 3 one.

RahmedMobo = B450-A pro max
If worse comes to worst and I find it's bricked, is there a recommended better motherboard I can buy?

You'll never need to buy a new motherboard in the case of a corrupted bios, in the absolute worst case you can use an external SPI programmer to flash a working bios firmware onto the chip, it's a quick and easy process if you have the tools available or know someone who does. If not, any repair shop will also be able to do it for you.

[quote=Rahmed]Mobo = B450-A pro max
Usb = 64gb (56gb shown on file explorer) exFat (only option to format besides NTFS)
[/quote]
This is probably your issue, the filesystem almost definitely has to be FAT32, and you'll want to use an MBR not GPT. Most people recommend a 16GB or smaller drive, but 64 will probably be fine and you could always try making the partition smaller than 16GB if it still doesn't work. Google should be able to walk you through how to get it formatted correctly. It's also worth trying a USB 2.0 drive if you're using a USB 3 one.
[quote=Rahmed]Mobo = B450-A pro max
If worse comes to worst and I find it's bricked, is there a recommended better motherboard I can buy?
[/quote]
You'll never need to buy a new motherboard in the case of a corrupted bios, in the absolute worst case you can use an external SPI programmer to flash a working bios firmware onto the chip, it's a quick and easy process if you have the tools available or know someone who does. If not, any repair shop will also be able to do it for you.
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turbochad69RahmedMobo = B450-A pro max
Usb = 64gb (56gb shown on file explorer) exFat (only option to format besides NTFS)
This is probably your issue, the filesystem almost definitely has to be FAT32, and you'll want to use an MBR not GPT. Most people recommend a 16GB or smaller drive, but 64 will probably be fine and you could always try making the partition smaller than 16GB if it still doesn't work. Google should be able to walk you through how to get it formatted correctly. It's also worth trying a USB 2.0 drive if you're using a USB 3 one.RahmedMobo = B450-A pro max
If worse comes to worst and I find it's bricked, is there a recommended better motherboard I can buy?
You'll never need to buy a new motherboard in the case of a corrupted bios, in the absolute worst case you can use an external SPI programmer to flash a working bios firmware onto the chip, it's a quick and easy process if you have the tools available or know someone who does. If not, any repair shop will also be able to do it for you.

I don't trust brum repair shops, just had a phone call with msi and they suggested to post my mobo to their tech place in poland. Paying for the shipment and repair would be about £25, might be costly but seems reasonable to me

[quote=turbochad69][quote=Rahmed]Mobo = B450-A pro max
Usb = 64gb (56gb shown on file explorer) exFat (only option to format besides NTFS)
[/quote]
This is probably your issue, the filesystem almost definitely has to be FAT32, and you'll want to use an MBR not GPT. Most people recommend a 16GB or smaller drive, but 64 will probably be fine and you could always try making the partition smaller than 16GB if it still doesn't work. Google should be able to walk you through how to get it formatted correctly. It's also worth trying a USB 2.0 drive if you're using a USB 3 one.
[quote=Rahmed]Mobo = B450-A pro max
If worse comes to worst and I find it's bricked, is there a recommended better motherboard I can buy?
[/quote]
You'll never need to buy a new motherboard in the case of a corrupted bios, in the absolute worst case you can use an external SPI programmer to flash a working bios firmware onto the chip, it's a quick and easy process if you have the tools available or know someone who does. If not, any repair shop will also be able to do it for you.[/quote]

I don't trust brum repair shops, just had a phone call with msi and they suggested to post my mobo to their tech place in poland. Paying for the shipment and repair would be about £25, might be costly but seems reasonable to me
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