there is one thing in this topic which this dude probably brought up:
https://etf2l.org/2024/03/22/6v6-season-47-spring-2024-provisonal-tiers-and-whitelist-plugin-rule-updates/
if etf2l is siding with prem player opinions in the first place, why asking about the general audience about an opinion at all if it doesn't matter anyway?
siding with people who have the most of experience in the game and best understanding of it in a competitive setting is fair (actually i was enforcing this idea when i was an etf2l league admin myself) but this was a spit in the face of people who thought they could make a change by voting, eventually getting their votes disregarded
i guess etf2l wanted to see an opinion of the community but i feel like it was potrayed in a way if they choose A and it gets majority it just gets applied, i think you get this already
the rest is just one-sided opinion and as others said bad faith arguments about the changes being made, because the arguments why the change is being made was presented in the post update, but then people just forget it was made in some post some months ago and think all of these whitelist changes are shoved from someone's ass while all of them are result of some problematic situation or aspect in the game which had its own spotlight in the past like playing with double backpack or idk vaccinator (very old ban)
buudSeinfeldATTENTION: PLEASE DISREGARD ANY AND ALL ZESTY JESUS POSTS!hes also just a noob? https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?r=24&p=76561198052431073
THAT GUY IS A SUPER TURBO RACIST AND AN ANNOYING LOSER! DO NOT REPOST HIS SHIT OPINIONS!
giving opinions is always good but how is he dumbing the game down to moving your med or sentry like he has b4nny knowledge and the game figured out when his only experience is highlander in the lowest div
no flame to new players, but personally i didn't have such radical opinions about the meta while i was just starting out
zesty jesus is a guy who can't accept that people can be better at the game he loves than him like many pub players and call like majority of comp players names because they are so sweaty and kill him in a game where the main thing is killing players in the opposing team!!! (j_peg situation with him getting dunked on a pub)
he has played one season of highlander in amateur and has an opinion about every single aspect of competitive you can ever imagine based on his extensive experience
and that is a viewpoint which is repeated by cringetopians who can't develop an opinion of their own based on some actual competitive experience, so they take his takes as their own which eventually creates a bad look for competitive overall