is it? cuz I prefer using win7 than win10 but I just wanna make sure that my fps won't be worse on win7
Is windows 7 still worth it
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is it? cuz I prefer using win7 than win10 but I just wanna make sure that my fps won't be worse on win7
I played tf2 on windows xp until 2018 because I had no RAM(1 gig then 3) and because I had higher avg FPS than on 7
if you havent got a resemblence of social life or use the computer for virtually anything else then sure go for win7, but consider this:
security updates? good luck with that
half the apps you download not working or resorting to using ancient versions of them if even possible? its everyday bro
motherboard drivers dont exist for windows 7? you guessed it
then again you prefer it so why the fuck should I or anyone else tell you what to do, I mean I used windows xp 5 years past its end of support
I played tf2 on windows xp until 2018 because I had no RAM(1 gig then 3) and because I had higher avg FPS than on 7
if you havent got a resemblence of social life or use the computer for virtually anything else then sure go for win7, but consider this:
security updates? good luck with that
half the apps you download not working or resorting to using ancient versions of them if even possible? its everyday bro
motherboard drivers dont exist for windows 7? you guessed it
then again you prefer it so why the fuck should I or anyone else tell you what to do, I mean I used windows xp 5 years past its end of support
if you havent got a resemblence of social life or use the computer for virtually anything else then sure go for win7, but consider this:
security updates? good luck with that
half the apps you download not working or resorting to using ancient versions of them if even possible? its everyday bro
motherboard drivers dont exist for windows 7? you guessed it
then again you prefer it so why the fuck should I or anyone else tell you what to do, I mean I used windows xp 5 years past its end of support
[url=https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A#:~:text=Steam%20Support%20%3A%3A%20Windows%207%20and%20Windows%208%20Support&text=As%20of%20January%201%202024,on%20those%20versions%20of%20Windows.]Steam will also drop support for Windows 7 in January 2024[/url]
As someone still running Windows 7, yes it fucking rules, and yes the apocalypse is coming and yes i will hold on until the bitter end.
As someone still running Windows 7, yes it fucking rules, and yes the apocalypse is coming and yes i will hold on until the bitter end.
ArchRhythmSteam will also drop support for Windows 7 in January 2024
I can just disable client updates with launch options
[quote=ArchRhythm][url=https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A#:~:text=Steam%20Support%20%3A%3A%20Windows%207%20and%20Windows%208%20Support&text=As%20of%20January%201%202024,on%20those%20versions%20of%20Windows.]Steam will also drop support for Windows 7 in January 2024[/url][/quote]
I can just disable client updates with launch options
I can just disable client updates with launch options
windows 7 is SO perfect... i wish i could have it forever.
windows 7 is SO perfect... i wish i could have it forever.
Just use a bare-bones Windows 10 install and do some Reg/Service edits, I think Mastercoms even has some recommendations on stuff to help out performance
Personally I use Atlas-Window 10, but I couldn't really recommend it unless you wanna dig through all its own issues.
Just use a bare-bones Windows 10 install and do some Reg/Service edits, I think [url=https://docs.mastercomfig.com/latest/os/windows/]Mastercoms even has some recommendations on stuff to help out performance[/url]
Personally I use Atlas-Window 10, but I couldn't really recommend it unless you wanna dig through all its own issues.
Personally I use Atlas-Window 10, but I couldn't really recommend it unless you wanna dig through all its own issues.
can't speak much for these cause I haven't tried them myself, but there are de-bloated/cut down versions (like, precompiled so you don't have to go through the effort of digging up registry edits yourself) of win10/11 you can find online that supposedly improve performance substantially.
can't speak much for these cause I haven't tried them myself, but there are de-bloated/cut down versions (like, precompiled so you don't have to go through the effort of digging up registry edits yourself) of win10/11 you can find online that supposedly improve performance substantially.
Surny de-bloated/cut down versions of win10/11
This is part of what Atlas-Os is, it's a Debloated 22h2 version of Windows 10, its been pretty great so far, but if you're going to delve into it, please know Atlas directly has an out of the box conflict with vac.
Specifically, Atlas blocks Spectre-Meltdown from running which causes issues with Vac.
To remedy this, just enable it via the provided .cmd, and turn Autoclean off via Task Scheduler
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011015060023414944/1126230611447791636/image.png
https://forum.atlasos.net/assets/files/2023-05-14/1684033877-887383-image-1.png
[quote=Surny] de-bloated/cut down versions of win10/11 [/quote]
This is part of what Atlas-Os is, it's a Debloated 22h2 version of Windows 10, its been pretty great so far, but if you're going to delve into it, please know Atlas directly has an out of the box conflict with vac.
Specifically, Atlas blocks Spectre-Meltdown from running which causes issues with Vac.
To remedy this, just enable it via the provided .cmd, and turn Autoclean off via Task Scheduler
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011015060023414944/1126230611447791636/image.png[/img]
[img]https://forum.atlasos.net/assets/files/2023-05-14/1684033877-887383-image-1.png[/img]
This is part of what Atlas-Os is, it's a Debloated 22h2 version of Windows 10, its been pretty great so far, but if you're going to delve into it, please know Atlas directly has an out of the box conflict with vac.
Specifically, Atlas blocks Spectre-Meltdown from running which causes issues with Vac.
To remedy this, just enable it via the provided .cmd, and turn Autoclean off via Task Scheduler
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011015060023414944/1126230611447791636/image.png[/img]
[img]https://forum.atlasos.net/assets/files/2023-05-14/1684033877-887383-image-1.png[/img]
Soala
Vac conflict = vac ban or inability to join vac servers ?
Is there less "extreme" windows 10 distros out there? Like without the data collecting but with wsl and tpm
Also in addition to steam, mozilla firefox will not be maintained past september 2024 (source)
[quote=Soala][/quote]
Vac conflict = vac ban or inability to join vac servers ?
Is there less "extreme" windows 10 distros out there? Like without the data collecting but with wsl and tpm
Also in addition to steam, mozilla firefox will not be maintained past september 2024 ([url=https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/04/firefox-115-new-esr-base-and-some-add-ons-may-be-blocked-from-running-on-certain-sites/]source[/url])
Vac conflict = vac ban or inability to join vac servers ?
Is there less "extreme" windows 10 distros out there? Like without the data collecting but with wsl and tpm
Also in addition to steam, mozilla firefox will not be maintained past september 2024 ([url=https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/04/firefox-115-new-esr-base-and-some-add-ons-may-be-blocked-from-running-on-certain-sites/]source[/url])
TwiggyVac conflict = vac ban or inability to join vac servers ?
whichever it is, it's likely a drawback specific to that windows re-distribution he mentioned, as the spectre and meltdown mitigations can be disabled just fine (eg. using inspectre or manually changing the settings yourself) without any relation to or impact on VAC.
[quote=Twiggy]
Vac conflict = vac ban or inability to join vac servers ?
[/quote]
whichever it is, it's likely a drawback specific to that windows re-distribution he mentioned, as the spectre and meltdown mitigations can be disabled just fine (eg. using [url=https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm]inspectre[/url] or manually changing the settings yourself) without any relation to or impact on VAC.
Vac conflict = vac ban or inability to join vac servers ?
[/quote]
whichever it is, it's likely a drawback specific to that windows re-distribution he mentioned, as the spectre and meltdown mitigations can be disabled just fine (eg. using [url=https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm]inspectre[/url] or manually changing the settings yourself) without any relation to or impact on VAC.
turbochad69TwiggyVac conflict = vac ban or inability to join vac servers ?whichever it is, it's likely a drawback specific to that windows re-distribution he mentioned, as the spectre and meltdown mitigations can be disabled just fine (eg. using inspectre or manually changing the settings yourself) without any relation to or impact on VAC.
true but you will agree the consequences are not the same
[quote=turbochad69][quote=Twiggy]
Vac conflict = vac ban or inability to join vac servers ?
[/quote]
whichever it is, it's likely a drawback specific to that windows re-distribution he mentioned, as the spectre and meltdown mitigations can be disabled just fine (eg. using [url=https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm]inspectre[/url] or manually changing the settings yourself) without any relation to or impact on VAC.[/quote]
true but you will agree the consequences are not the same
Vac conflict = vac ban or inability to join vac servers ?
[/quote]
whichever it is, it's likely a drawback specific to that windows re-distribution he mentioned, as the spectre and meltdown mitigations can be disabled just fine (eg. using [url=https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm]inspectre[/url] or manually changing the settings yourself) without any relation to or impact on VAC.[/quote]
true but you will agree the consequences are not the same
Twiggytrue but you will agree the consequences are not the same
Was not home until now, Ive not been vac banned, only disconnected until I fixed the issue-
I think the issue is that Atlas is trying to do weird cleanup with the custom files, since on first start, it works fine, but upon a crash or restart of tf2, the issue will persist from that point forward.
(Completely cleaning my custom folder also fixed this issue temporarily until i found the long term fix I mentioned in my earlier post)
[quote=Twiggy]
true but you will agree the consequences are not the same[/quote]
Was not home until now, Ive not been vac banned, only disconnected until I fixed the issue-
I think the issue is that Atlas is trying to do weird cleanup with the custom files, since on first start, it works fine, but upon a crash or restart of tf2, the issue will persist from that point forward.
(Completely cleaning my custom folder also fixed this issue temporarily until i found the long term fix I mentioned in my earlier post)
true but you will agree the consequences are not the same[/quote]
Was not home until now, Ive not been vac banned, only disconnected until I fixed the issue-
I think the issue is that Atlas is trying to do weird cleanup with the custom files, since on first start, it works fine, but upon a crash or restart of tf2, the issue will persist from that point forward.
(Completely cleaning my custom folder also fixed this issue temporarily until i found the long term fix I mentioned in my earlier post)
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