"He has a different opinion than me, therefore concern troll."

How is it derailing when it is literally related? Also, there is nothing else to address about this topic here. 14 pages of everything that could be said, for the most part. I would appreciate if you did not accuse me of trolling for no reason, thanks.

I like Overwatch's approach to the topic, yes. Insulting is insulting no matter who it is. Being a minority or using a specific term does not automatically make it worse.

Having a disagreement and tossing out harsh words is different from tossing out said words needlessly and unwarranted, such as is most of the cases of trash-talking. It has nothing to do with elements that can or can't be changed. I can brag in a modest way that doesn't involve insulting my opponents, and I don't think anything is added from insulting anyone.

Again you are sweeping under the rug because it's "on a completely different level" or so you claim. I don't think it is "entertainment" as you say it is, entertainment to whom? It just comes off as unnecessarily rude, and you and I both know it oftentimes goes well beyond that. And whether or not it is of the same severity does not make it acceptable still.

I find it quite amazing how some people are willing to stand against racist/transphobic/sexist remarks, yet so adamantly defend trash-talking or other remarks that aren't of the prior variety. You say that such racist/transphobic/sexist remarks drive people out of the community, but doesn't that apply to all forms of harassment? Minorities and specific groups, and terms used against them shouldn't be singled out because this is a problem that applies to everyone.

Plenty of people are driven out of the community for other unnecessary insults and trash-talk. Don't just swipe that under the rug as being "incomparable" and deeming it acceptable. Some of you even say it is a strategy if the enemies have "tilters", are you serious now? Don't you see the hypocrisy? Come on now, just be nice and respectable. It's not hard.

I agree with this decision. In my opinion, I think they should also reban the Quickie, the Loch n' Load (yeah I get it, Demos need more variety but I don't think these weapons are balanced), the Cow Mangler, and Jarate.

Quickiebomb Launcher has got a lot less clip size than stock but the increased sticky damage and extra range you gain from it is huge, not to mention the shorter fuse. It's basically good for most situations now, and while it only has 4 stickies before needing to reload, it gives Demoman immediate extra effectiveness in both closer ranges and longer ranges, being able to defend himself easier and faster on close range despite the damage nerf, which is a questionable tradeoff from a balancing point of view, to being able to sticky snipe faster, further, and with much greater damage and speed. When a weapon needs to cut back half of its stock counterpart's clipsize at an attempt to "balance" it (pre-nerf Loch) you need to start questioning if there's something wrong.

The Loch n' Load. It makes pills way easier to hit, which is huge. The fact that its projectile travels straight without spinning also makes the effective projectile speed gain from the weapon greater than 20%, while also negating most of the slight random deviations in range/accuracy due to the spinning projectile of stock. Losing one shot and rollers for this much extra accuracy is not enough of a penalty.

The Cow Mangler is now pretty much a straight upgrade from stock for roamers. This weapon is really hanging on a balancing edge. Infinite ammo with negligible downsides for 6v6 play, and I know it sounds stupid but the charge shot will actually see some use now, especially in lower divs to make some absolutely bullshitty out of nowhere shots which deal way waaaay too much damage. Think about every choke situation where you'd be eating a few, normal rocket spam shots and replace it with a Cow Mangler charged shot. Yeah, no. This one is hard to balance because the former hidden reload speed penalty made it worse than stock in almost every situation, but now it's kind of the other way around.

Jarate. It might be tough to get into a position for a good piss soaking going against coordinated team play in most situations, but if/when it hits for whatever reason it is a massive advantage. It is also not hard to use either. And the drawback? There isn't one, in essence. So it should be banned, instead of increasing Sniper's viability/power even further.

True that, I'm seeing what he said as the Gunboats allow Soldier to use one of his skills (rocket jumping) with greater liberty and allowing Soldier to do stuff he normally wouldn't be able to do, without it just being "I have more HP when I bomb" or whatever.

Booties are a powerful unlock, and sure they make the demo deal more DPM, while the presence of pipes, although less reliable as a weapon in a 1v1 situation can be very important especially in chokes and in the hands of good demomen it's a good way to deal high direct damage (and they do allow the demo to put out more firepower in a sense). I see the Booties as one of those weapons which players would probably find more problems with at lower levels.

The thing about it is that it offers two passive upsides while removing a weapon, which is kind of a lame-ish thing. Demomen sees a lot more use in two different weapons while other frag classes generally keep it to their primary to deal damage. As someone said before, not op but trading skillful play for passives is eh.

Was I the only one coming here expecting footrests?

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Very blatant cheater, never missed a headshot even at point blank or meatshot. Played dumb when questioned about the cheats.