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big smile :)

chicken alfredo is banger

well that sucks, but they have every right to feel that way so. ggs

Can we disclose why the discussion is off or no?

if there is no ROME I'm not watching

I didn’t think of that with zesty in mind I thought that with the new comp players or people interested in comp in mind. But you are right, people try to fight against unbanning weapons and most of their arguments have little to no knowledge on 6s in terms of how the game flows or how one unban can change the game drastically.

I honestly just think that people are more influenced by a high edit video essays on how “X is broken” and if we make something like that debunking all the claims with evidence the only people who argue against will be the zesty followers.

I am willing to help anyway I can if that were the case

honestly, this is something more drastic of a situation than we think, we are talking about a stubborn man who has done surface level research on competitive (because he doesn't care about it), has only experienced A 6v6 valve comp match and deemed it bad and never played it again, he always said "TF2 was always made with casual in mind" which is not true but fully believes that, and has witnessed quickplay being taken away from him and only watched (after mym) as the comp players going back to the community 6s, keeping the weapons banned (mostly just base jumper now) even after the nerfs on the weapons. (which is understandable).

All he has seen and experienced is bad along side other games that tried to go for the E-Sport route just going to shit, dying, becoming unfun overtime, or just see toxic people come out because of competitive. He has never seen the bright side of it like, honing your skills, feeling more proud as you win a championship, making friends that push you to your limits, etc.

with the new video about "valve catering to competitive" coming in October I'm sure he has already made up his mind and won't change let alone agree to what you have to say when it comes to misconceptions.

if you are gonna discuss with him about this tho, try and find common ground first and talk him through step by step about each topic, but he might just not take it seriously at all and just try and make you look like the fool.

my solution, is to have an accessable 6s newbie only lobby (only accessible in newbie mixes or TF2CC) with the meta being the main thing but let players play full time offclassing, let them experience the flaws of the classes, that is the best way to teach someone instead of explaining it to them.

literally all I can think of as a solution is to have a newbie category and have to play a certain amount of games to go through until they are allowed in open/captain pugs, let's say random number 300-500 games or at least a season, to get the gist if not fundamentals of 6s/highlander.

any other solutions or thoughts?

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wild

because sniper can easily one shot any class depending on if the charge is full, but also one shot light classes by quick scoping scout and medic. SO if a good sniper can just one shot anything easily (unless the snipers teammates are incompetent) then it'll just be who is the better sniper.

heavy is the same difference, because of his massive health pool and having a medic up their ass If a good heavy can position right and know when to go in on the entire team then it'll depend on who is the better heavy by just going forward and holding m+1.

you can't really compare a 6v6 game to a 9v9 game and say "yeah class limit of 1 should fix it"

like I'm more on the lines of offclasses can be viable with your team working around it, but this ain't it chief.

forcing a class limit to 1 on 6v6 the meta will be scout, soldier, medic, demo, heavy, and sniper, it won't be fun to play with or against. it'll just come down to who is the better heavy or sniper

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“B4nny is pushing thirty, I’m done losing to this guy.”

it runs well but still early so it's not the best at times and ping is alright, being stuck at 50-80 ping at times, I don't think it'll be a big issue when it launches.

I know I'm getting down frags for this.

Got access and it was alright, didn't have the most fun cause I'm not a moba player, but if you are, you're gonna ride this games dick I'll tell you that much.