Null_Sheepylol You can never know who the extremists are.
they're hiding under your bed, in your closet, lurking in your bed sheets waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike.
hide yo kids hide yo wife
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remedycan you fedoras
Says the dude with 7,000 hours total in TF2 and Dota :D
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DavidTheWinsacDavidthewin: please, read up on your own country's history and you will notice this thing called "the civil war" happened.
FYI I'm English
There were few conflicts then :D (dw I'm just nitpicking)
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AvastvalkeriAvastMorals and what is deemed acceptable is entirely dependent on the society and time period.
You are telling me that in the future, if society says that is is completely moral for people to rape and murder innocent people, that you would be fine with it? That you don't have some inner voice telling you that that's immoral?
Are you saying if you were born in the year 1820 in the United States to a wealthy slave-owning family and were raised your entire life to dehumanize slaves with constant reinforcement of these beliefs from your friends and family you wouldn't at the very least be conflicted about what is right or wrong?
I was born in 20th century in Poland (also in the most conservative city here) and I don't believe that homosexuality is a sin :P
I'd say supporting equality in Poland is the same as not supporting slavery back then:P
posted about 9 years ago
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Geel9SocialiteGeel9Godwin's Law :DvalkeriGeel9If morality is objective then why are bad people able to justify their ability to do bad things?
Just because morality is objective does not mean that people can only commit objectively moral acts. Everyone has free will to go against what is moral.
Actually, not really. Nobody thinks they're bad. Everyone justifies themselves -- EVERYONE. When you lash out in anger and insult someone, you're justifying it to yourself. Everyone may see you as an asshole but to you, you're in the right. Even if you apologize later, you were still acting in that moment in what you viewed as a moral way.
Hitler thought he was ridding the world of a fucking plague. EVERYONE thinks they're a goddamn saint.
And no I often immediately think about how what I did was bad, but I guess different people think differently.
Argument from fallacy xD
Yeah, you think about what you DID was bad, not about how what you're DOING is bad. Read my posts please.
What I mean is at no point did I think what I was doing was right. I don't think I was thinking about morality at any point while flushing boiling water at someone. Maybe about if it's justifiable.
posted about 9 years ago
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valkeriAvastImplying wholesale enslavement of other races wasn't seen as normal in the past
Implying women and sexual minorities weren't murdered and oppressed 100x more than they were today and seen as "cultural"/normal
In a previous post I stated that the enslavement of other races was seen as normal in the past, because society said that it was acceptable.
Gregory of Nyssa. Everyone has different morality.
posted about 9 years ago
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Geel9valkeriGeel9If morality is objective then why are bad people able to justify their ability to do bad things?
Just because morality is objective does not mean that people can only commit objectively moral acts. Everyone has free will to go against what is moral.
Actually, not really. Nobody thinks they're bad. Everyone justifies themselves -- EVERYONE. When you lash out in anger and insult someone, you're justifying it to yourself. Everyone may see you as an asshole but to you, you're in the right. Even if you apologize later, you were still acting in that moment in what you viewed as a moral way.
Hitler thought he was ridding the world of a fucking plague. EVERYONE thinks they're a goddamn saint.
Godwin's Law :D
And no I often immediately think about how what I did was bad, but I guess different people think differently.
posted about 9 years ago
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valkeriKaneco...If we don't need religion to know what is morally right or wrong, where would you say we get it from?
Religion has been around since the beginning of recorded history, in fact, it's one of the reasons we know what happened in the early world. If it wasn't for monks or scribes or other religious people, we would not know much of what we know today about the past.
SocialitevalkeriI'm not saying or I didn't mean to say that religion doesn't give followers some morals, because it definitely does.Socialite...Assuming we do not get our morals from religion, then where do we get them?
But I also think that it's wrong to say that we wouldn't have them was it not for the religion.
Our parents and environment teach us too and we also learn by ourselves to tell good from evil. A simple example from almost anyones' lives will be how we're taught in school not to tell on classmates, it is some kind of code of conduct and not exactly something that'd come from religion.
Why do you keep asking the same question and ignoring replies? :>
I think what dr said is even a better reply to this question.
posted about 9 years ago
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valkeriSocialiteI like to think that I have morals even if bible disagrees. But if the only morality we have is the one given by the religion then too bad.Assuming we do not get our morals from religion, then where do we get them?
I'm not saying or I didn't mean to say that religion doesn't give followers some morals, because it definitely does.
But I also think that it's wrong to say that we wouldn't have them was it not for the religion.
Our parents and environment teach us too and we also learn by ourselves to tell good from evil. A simple example from almost anyones' lives will be how we're taught in school not to tell on classmates, it is some kind of code of conduct and not exactly something that'd come from religion.
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squid_squad_boy_60-nineIts easy to find all the lives religion has ended, but it's hard to measure the ones that it has saved. Our morals come from religion. If we didn't have religion think of all the people that would have died. IT's dumb to make statements like this because there is literally no way of proving how the world would be without religion. Maybe worse maybe better, but you don't know and neither do i. So no it's not plain obvious.
I like to think that I have morals even if bible disagrees. But if the only morality we have is the one given by the religion then too bad.
posted about 9 years ago
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squid_squad_boy_60-ninedevils advocate here: Why are french lives worth more than Burundi lives? Suddenly after 20 years of peace violence has sparked in Burundi. Why isn't there a tf tv thread for this? Do we value french more because they are our allies? Friends? Relatives?
I think the fact that you used the Burundi and not Beirut as an example is exactly the reason why. And I think life gets better once you accept the people as they are. Of course you can tell them that Lebanese life is worth as much as French and some will say they agree, but deep inside death of an European will be more shocking not just because they value European lives more, but also because they realize they could be them.
I basically agree with the point, but raising this argument in this thread is very insensitive..
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KanecoBonafideIf someone compares the crusaders one more time to modern terrorist attacks.. Than you are as much of a fool as the very same people you talk bad about for immidiately blaming the islam and all it's followers for it.
I mean lets be real but isn't it exactly the same thing? Just in different eras? The crusades were basically the Holy War in name of Christianity with the aim of spreading that religion forcefully while supressing/eliminating opposing ideologies / infidels. Which is the exactly same basis of modern Jihad. Islam is just 1000 years late to Christianity timeline.
Honestly most religions are fuckin stupid and probably the single major source of violence in the world because they can as easily work for the good as they can corrupt and extremize the minds of the weak, a world without religion would be a better world.
I always thought Hoły Wars were more about money and influence than religion
posted about 9 years ago
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ScrewballForefather(insert uneducated drivel here)This isn't the result of diversity or anything like that you fucking fascist prick. This is the result of meddling in the affairs of other countries for profit and the US's endless wars of imperialism. The EU supported the US and as much as i hate to say it (ISIS is horribly misguided and are islamofascist) they have legitimate reasons to hate us (Western wars have killed four million Muslims since 1990). None of this would be happening if we did not destabilize the middle east in the first place. If you want to blame anyone for this shit blame the powers that be. Follow the money.
My condolences to the victims of this barbaric act. I can only hope that this doesn't add fuel to the fire of the fascist movements in the EU.
Karlfreedom of speech stops at my feelings
"No investigation no right to speak" - Mao Tse Tung
Add colonialism to that and you get a pretty good ground for growing extremism and hate of western civilization.
posted about 9 years ago
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I had my forehead stitched once after I hit radiator pretty hard.
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VaskieGeel9 already replied to my private message regarding the suggestion i gave and he agreed, so i am guessing that it's going to be worked on soon hopefully.
It can actually be pretty confusing, it should be as easy as a straight message telling you what needs to happen for X or Y team to win. Possible examples:
Danger Dogs are given 4.5 points and win this game if they take at least one GC loss.
LEGO are given 0.5 points and win this game if they take at least one map in regular time.
Animate are given 0.5 points and win this game if they take at least one map in regular time.
The entire "point" system is confusing to me, and as far as i am aware, to a certain extent to other people to.
Nice idea!
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