Anyone here discussing genocide honestly willing to state the self proclaimed goal of Hamas, hezbollah, Iran and its other proxies in relation to Israel and the Jewish people living there?

Leave all the deluded conspiracy theories at the doors, just understand what these groups have said time and time again about Israel and Jewish people, no grey area just what they literally stand for, and tell me you’re not an antisemite for justifying what these monsters stand for.

I’m not Jewish I’m not Israeli, but if you cheerlead Hamas as some kind of freedom fighter you either have a tiny brain, don’t care and like the status quo or you’re an antisemite.

JW I don’t know your age but I suspect you’re going to regret being so naive in hindsight in years to come. You live in a confirmation bias bubble searching and reading easily discredited garbage just to make your echo chamber louder.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XsfQEYVuGY0

You're a legend! Thank you, this fixed the problem. :D

Since the 64bit update trying to open AVI recorder is giving me this 'no supported steam games found on the system' error message, however I haven't changed the location of my steam library so I don't understand what has gone wrong? Appreciate anyones help.

This is from the games.kv txt file :

"Games"
{
"Team Fortress 2"
{
"GameDir" "<library>\\steamapps\\common\\Team Fortress 2\\tf"
"Executable" "<library>\\steamapps\\common\\Team Fortress 2\\hl2.exe"
"Arguments" "-steam -game tf"
"AppId" "440"

I appreciate the response,
As for the last point, simply because the Israeli governments goal post 7th of October is understandably to wipe out hamas in Gaza. Not Palestinian people (= genocide) but Hamas (=anti terrorist war). Hamas has led to as many if not more of its ‘own’ people’s death by the nature of its operation and existence than Israel has or would have if it wasn’t for Hamas’ existence. They’re literally a circular reference of terror. We’re all siting here on tftv arguing that the current death toll in Gaza is on the back of the Israeli government being bored and wanting to make use of the financial years worth of iron dome miles.

If anyone wants to tell me the death toll isn’t accountable also to hamas then I’m talking either to professional devil advocates or antisemitic terrorist sympathisers

That’s on wild rumpus to concede.

If you believe that Hamas is ‘resistance’ as opposed to a terrorist organisation, then you hold no validity to further claims on the matter, you simply support the barbaric killing and raping of civilians in the name of Jihad & antisemitism. Must be nice to be able to have your antisemitic deep thoughts be given a foundation through modern day western cheerleaded ISIS.

I dislike comparisons between current or previous wars & or genocide as they don’t hold in truth to the history of what is actually happening now between Israel and Palestine, in history between Israel and Palestine or in history between Arabs and Jews, it’s just a comfort blanket for otherwise, non-geographically related, history minded people to try their best to draw parallels.

Israel is not a genocidal state, and in an attempt to ascribe it as such would be discrediting its history long before we non Jews decided to recognise the relevance of Jews. (See 6 millions deaths WW2).

It is not a character assassination by any means, it’s to highlight the disconnect and startling irony of what is right and what is wrong in naive minds pantomiming as woke individuals.

I wish not a single Palestinian would die not a single Jew would die in this horrific war, I make no justification for the actions of the Israeli army by large, I simply wish to know why people are so quick to make linear narratives and comparisons between Ukraine and Russia and Israel and Palestine, surely a starting point then is who started it if we’re using Russia and Ukraine as of 2014 let’s say, and Russia is the aggressor, why are we seeing something different here if in October 7th Hamas was the aggressor? My point initially highlights that we can’t pick and chose when history starts for countries conflicts. This conflict didn’t start on 7th of October that’s right but no one is mentioning the history leading up to it, and my original OP is that it also doesn’t begin in ‘48. If Russia’s death toll now in the next 6 months grew massively outgrowing Ukraine’s, would our POV and sympathies shift?

What makes the atrocities so much more speculative to us between Israel and Palestine then say the actual genocide in Sudan, Yemen Iraq & Syria ?!

There is a strange fetish with Jews and their actions and their activities around the world throughout history, and it’s only repeating itself. I’d hate to think how an actual Jew feels.

Care to give me your take on how Hamas or the PLO benefits in any way the Palestinian people or cares about the civilians in Gaza? You place a lot of emphasis on the people in Gaza and the Israel government and I concede it’s wrongdoing, but can you tell me how you hold Hamas accountable?

How serious are you willing to take this topic?

I have far too much to say on this topic but I will give you my very very brief take.

I’m neither Jewish Israeli nor Christian/Muslim Palestinian, I don’t consider myself religious by any stretch of the imagination & as far as politics go I consider myself central, flirting with both left and right depending on what party is currently less insane.

I know Israelis and I known Palestinians,
I have palestinian friends whose grandparents were displaced as a result of the Arab spring war and have since moved from refuge in Lebanon to London, they have strong feelings against the state of Israel. I have friends who’s grandparents were born in Israel before ‘48 as Jews and who’s great grandparents were born in Israel as Jews way before ‘48, who’s grandfathers died during the Yom Kippur war, they in contrast hold strong feelings towards the recognition of the state of Israel. It may come as a surprise to us non Jews but indeed Jews in small numbers have existed in Israel before modern day recognition and in vast numbers if you care to dig up on history.

My friend who’s ‘Palestinian’ has had cousins killed since he’s left sought refuge in Lebanon, who he would tell you died fighting a good cause for the plight of the Palestinians since ‘48, sidestepping the fact that he attacked unarmed civilians at a bus stop in Jerusalem.

My friend who’s ‘Israeli’ grandfather married an Iraqi Jewish woman who fled Iraq due to the prosecution of Jews around the time of 48. He would tell you if it wasn’t for Israel where would have been safe for his grandmother to escape prosecution for being a Jew? Sidestepping the innocent Palestinian lives lost in defence of the state of Israel.

It is a fools errand to believe Jews and Israel have a history only as young as ‘48 and it’s a problematic, seductive idea for those quick to preach free palestine whenever a war breaks out between Israel and Palestine.

Your thread comes at a time when Israel Gaza war has reached a heavy toll on the Gaza death toll, however you make no mention nor have made a thread at any point to Hamas’ attack on Israel and its people on October 7th. A massacre against innocent civilians were children women and men were murdered, raped and kidnapped in the most barbaric fashion. It would take serious brainwashing of a normal human mind to believe Hamas who govern the people of Gaza are anything other than brutal barbaric genocidal fundamentalists who seek very little outside the entire destruction of the state of Israel and the Jewish people. In fact it’s their entire mantra, in horrific detail. Hostages are still being held by Hamas in Gaza through a war they most recently started, yet you make no mention of this or plea for their release.
Palestinian civilians should not pay the price by death for the terrorists that govern them, but it is not Israel who should be held accountable for what is happening to Palestinians in the Middle East, it is Hamas and its fractions who hold and seek no moral values even closely resembling an acceptable civilisation.

What does free Palestine to you all mean? From the river to the sea? Hand over the state of Israel to Palestinian leaders? To PLO to Hamas? Will you then in 2 months make a thread about the literal and actual genocide of the millions of Jews who live there that will 100% ensue ? To me free Palestine means free Gaza from Hamas (Israel has not occupied an inch of Gaza since 2005)to
Free Palestine from political antisemites and terrorists so Palestinians can live in a fair two state solution.

We live unfortunately again in an era where it’s okay to be antisemitic, or antisemitic behaviour is less of a problem than other issues, maybe over a month ago ~ 2 months ago, Charlie a popular streamer and prem soldier in the UK had responded to someone mentioning Ali G on stream saying no
‘Sacha Cohen is cancelled I don’t like him’ - Charlie
‘why?’ Person asks
‘He supports bombing of children or some shit’ ‘don’t like him’
‘Isn’t he Jewish?’ Person asks
‘Dunno’ Charlie responds
This guy amusingly continues to play Kanye west on his stream (a known outrageous Jew hater)

Genocide has unfortunately become a buzzword in peoples vocabulary that when numerically and morally analysed doesn’t hold a mirror to the truth.

Gutted. Well done on you for prioritising your health now and taking initiative and the appropriate steps to get yourself back to good nick.

Agreed, but what am I meant to do? Pretend I didn’t see it? maybe the bloke is suffering with health issues that we don’t know of and it could help bringing this to light, assuming he’s unaware.

admins/habib feel free to take down if required, obviously.

I literally mean no harm.

Watched the first minutes of a recent twitch video where you’re smoking in a car and talking about tf2. Can’t help but notice pretty severe clubbing in your hands. This in unique circumstances can mean nothing, but it can also be an indicator for health issues that should definitely be diagnosed. Only highlighting this to you in a thread as a UK nobody tf2 player I literally have no other way to bring this to your attention in good time.

I’m sure you’re fine, and it’s hopefully nothing to worry about but better be safe than sorry. For reference I only saw the first 1.40 minutes of the clip.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nail_clubbing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7TUZH0JV5o
see you @ the next holiday

Wow… rest in peace

Thoroughly enjoyed your streams & the pugs I seldom got to play with you, 109 is one of my go to frag movies to hype myself up before playing.

Incredibly sad news, sorry to all of you who were close to Milky.