Ye true i havent been that helpful in this thread so maybe it is a bit dastardly of me to say I don't think others have the capability to make the judgement on how to edit the game, but that wasn't even rly aimed at u (in my eyes ur just the dude who makes da plugin, and i mean that in a respectful way not a minimising way, i truly appreciate what u do and have done for da community with plugins n stuff).

But idk on the forums u see shit people come up with like "what if we did an inbetween hitbox for pipes between iron bomber and stock and run it thru a plugin!" like man cmon i wna play tf2 not randomdiv2playerfortress2. And for what its worth i think the point about keeping the game as true as possible to vanilla is more important than u may give it credit for. Yes i understand it may seem arbitrary to draw the line at plugins after u run custom maps and ban a bunch of weapons, but i still think there's an important distinction.

Also my posts about the med speed stuff were fine imo, i put a lot more effort into those than this, but thats whateva since that shits all over :P

The winger thing also could ahve been fixed with a ban :P Im willing to die on this hill brother. if IB gets fixed you cant meaningfully practise with the same gun u would use on a 6s server in pubs/mge/dm unless they all run that plugin too. This isnt the only issue with it but its not free in the slightest. On top of all this, and i dont know how to put it in a less confrontational way, the people making these decisions have very half baked ideas on the game (remember dat season we played with no scout speed cause ppl thought it would be a good idea?) I still think it was ok to play it in a season just to be able to prove its crap (and if it were good then who cares what i thought going into it, at least game is more fun now).

tldr: i dont trust u motherfuckers wit this much power!

The top part is the problem I have with plugins :P Not really playing tf2 if u can tweak things so massively. Yea u can say 6v6 tf2 isnt really tf2 either (wrong) because of whitelists, fixed/pro versions of maps etc, but I just find this a step too far.

Do you have a source on that?

Source?

A source. I need a source.

Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

why use a plugin when u can ban it. this is why i was against plugins that arent fixing things that should obviously be fixed (think ramp bug etc, where the fix is essentially free and very hard to argue against). before plugin meta we just banned/disallowed shit that was clearly broken/abusable.

I cant explain why, i can tell u that it is da case that at the top level teams r mostly differentiated by how in sync their soldiers are as a pair and with the rest of their team. Well i guess obviously the why of it is that better cohesion = kill enemy team faster and rotate around map faster than they can. As well as making HARMONIOUS decisions because u all have similar view on game - no baiting or unexpected pushes/ubers/fights etc.

this isnt to say u cant scout diff another prem team or that scouts are irrelevant, but i think the past 5~ years of sub prem soldier mains crying about scout class is da worst shit to listen to

scouts r only guaranteed to carry in divs below the top level lmfao. top level games r decided by soldiers most of the time, even if the scouts r the ones dat benefit on stats.

i still feel like im either an insane person or one of few sane people for wanting this unlock to be banned lmao

remember to eat yoghurt daily. also look into if u need to take digestive enzymes as some people dont produce enough of certain ones. u can take them for like 6 months then chill and not take them again for a few years to build up a nice lil collection of fellas down there

comp toxicity: names 4 literal who youtuber paedos

that sounds like the biggest cap of all time

the experts are dorks with no friends tho frfr

100x i have never seen an update without a single redeeming hat but i think this is the one.

no war paint case ? fr ?

never seen a funnier div2 cope. maybe its true on the classes no1 gives a shit about in highlander (engy/pyro come to mind...) and potentially medic in 6s, but ur not gna get to da top thru sucking people's dicks. maybe into mid-table high/div1 but ye.