New slightly revised one: http://whitelist.tf/7312

Still 50/50 on MG for reasons discussed above. I really like that it rewards skilled jumpers but it also just makes failed bombs go well if the other team can't respond quickly enough (so arguably not failed? I don't know) I just feel doing 195 is too much.

Big earner is cool but I dont even see why the spy would want to escape. Like, assuming you got a stab it is probably on med. Only situation it is useful is if you stab a combo member that isnt med then use the speed to catch up to med or trick stab them, which you wouldn't be able to do with default. Kinda punishes enemy team for being bad if such a situation arises, which is good.

FaN is actually pcool on badlands.

My problems with MG is that it rewards good jumpers and all that, and that's great since doing cool jumps is often a retarded thing to do since ur empty clipped, but that's the point - if you do a cool jump you should lose your potential. In other situations it is just a free pick assuming the medic is just a little too close and the enemy scouts are bad/down. IDK it's very 50/50.

Cowmangler is dumb, removes ammo managment and gives it a free secondary fire. Fine it's bad but it's very obnoxious.

I think amby encourages mainclassing spy and is just a shit weapon. Why give spy the ability to headshot? 'just cus lmao its ok hs is skill-indexed xd'.

It was an accident but I think it would be good tbh. Or only allow hats from before 2010 ecks dee

That was on accident but tbh i dont see why hats arent banned in competitive play.

Loose cannon in its current state is kosher IMHO. If it were back a few years ago it would be banned. I totally get the inconsistency point and yes I think you can tell I'd be in favour of a tighter whitelist (think Euro whitelist from a few years back)

My thought process was if it is shit dont allow it either. Not my fault valve make weapons that you only use to BM teams u r rollin'.

I'm 50/50 on other banners.

Heatmaker is basically default anyway.

Widowmaker rewards shots on target.

Market gardener should be banned anyway stupid weapon.

Also sage I disagree with you, if anything phlog should be the only one allowed with default - degreaser and backburner just encourages meme offclassing.

http://whitelist.tf/7300

Pick a fight with me there are only a few weapons here where I am 50/50 on ban/unban.

gogogo

Get rid of uber building part, nerf healing slightly (1/5 health of a class at close range, 1/2 at long). go!!!

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lock thread now...

I agree with MakWalms comment...:)

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happy birthday men

aeag

I use the cow mangler, and my penis has loads of spikes coming off of it LOL