Maybe someone can set up an official TF.TV Discord server, I'll message SLIN.

I've been using it with some colleagues (as a fun side project) for a couple of weeks now and it's really solid.
The web version is nice to see how the service works, but I recommend downloading the desktop (and mobile) client straight after.

You can technically move over the entire TF2 community. It has IRC like channels (to find matches), voice channels and personal messages.
They recently launched an API, so linking this stuff to TF2Center for example should work.

Few downsides: You don't control the server (box) yourself, no sub-channels (yet), no temporary channels, no passworded channels and can get messy with a lot of users in the server.

It's a new service and I recommend checking it out. The devs are super active on Twitter, so please provide them with feedback. https://twitter.com/discordapp

LFT!

me

invite

I'm going back to Amsterdam this weekend, somehow I always plan my trips back on the dates HomeStory Cup :s

huhy is not working for ESL full time (yet) and still working from home. When he moves to Cologne, there's a chance to set something up.

I'm afraid it's too late now. Maybe when the new website is fully launched, it would be less complicated for people to use it. For now, we'll bump in to the same problems. Wire hasn't been adjusted for TF2 in years.

I'll talk to some ESL people if the new site is live. Convince them to run some stuff without Wire and then do some test cups with Wire to see if we find any bugs.

FYI, I work for ESL TV, not ESL, so I don't have a lot of influence on the leagues. But I might be able to do a TF2 show in my free time.

Wow, I wish someone linked me this thread. Maybe I have to clear up some stuff. It will be two parts, one why I started raging, the other with maybe some background information about competitive TF2.

I basically "quit" competitive for over a year now because of my current job. I currently work at ESL TV and therefore work mostly in the evenings or are away to an event for 10 days.

The reason I posted this was because I had very bad experiences for 2 weeks in a row with TF2. It was Christmas holiday and I finally had time to play a lot of TF2.

Sadly every mix/lobby/pug I played ended in to a disaster. People leaving, people not showing up, people showing up 30 minutes late, people not on Mumble. Okay, sometimes this happens, but if it's match after match it really gets to you at some point.

I'm not saying other communities are better in general, the DotA 2 community is definitely not the right example, neither is CS:GO or any other game. I think TF2 community is one of the better communities out there.

But when it comes down to competitive TF2, in my opinion the community is very lazy and spoiled. I never experienced an official 6v6 match that started at the agreed time.
Always delay, people smoking one more cigarette, going for a piss, getting a glass of water. I have to blame myself for this too, I always got coffee and water right before the match, so I sometimes delayed it too.

The "community" complains TF2 is not being taken seriously by the esports communities/companies and we sort of have to blame ourself for that.
I agree, ETF2L is an amazing website, just because it's so easy and everything is about TF2. But we want(ed) the bigger competitions and we bailed out on ESL when we had the chance.

At the time the ESL anti-cheat was very buggy for TF2, a lot of people with crashes, FPS problems and so on. So it's not all to blame on us. But with ETF2L around that worked "good" and "flawless", it was very easy to pop back over to there.

ESL looks a lot at activity on the website, if a game has weekly cups that are very popular, there's a big chance it will be added to the Go4 system. Which means money cups every week with a bigger prize pool at the end of the month with the qualified teams. From there on a intentional sponsor might be interested to add it to the EMS (One) (soon to be ESL One). Where you have a lot of qualifiers with LAN finals in the end.

It's amazing how we built up something like ETF2L and that it's still going strong. It might be a bit too late now, but sticking with websites like UGC and ETF2L are not going to bring competitive TF2 forward.

People must know that there are a lot of "higher up" people in esports (not calling names) really like TF2. Hell, even CGS had it in their Pro-Am circuit.

Anyway, I'm back to playing TF2 every now and then, sadly with still quite some bad experiences and I'm actually looking to backup for a 9v9 plat team or div1 6v6 team.
I'm also trying to go to i52 (with Exfane) if a big chunk of the community shows up.

Feel free to ask questions in here, I'll keep an eye on the thread.

Ciao!

PS:

I had 5 you dick head and I was positive on the other two maps <3

I'm planning to come over with Exfane (and Arie) if a large amount of teams show up. Might even form a team with some Dutchies and rock the FB tag. I should be free that week/weekend, but with my work I never know.

I'll also try to help out the production team with some stuff I learned over the past year at ESL TV.

Anyway, if I'm going I plan to stream every day, take a lot of photos and provide video coverage on my YouTube channel.

I'm up till 4/5 anyway. My neighbours are deaf, so have no issues with talking at night.

Hey all,

As I work evenings now, my schedule is similar to 9 to 5 EDT.
So I'm currently looking for an NA team. I have ETF2L premier division experience as Scout.

It is a bit last minute, but I decided to give it a go as I miss playing TF2.
I can only play on east coast servers though.

sick

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Can't get that ass out of your head too?