there's a lack of high quality pugs in america too. rgl pugs are extremely hit or miss, sometimes people are trying, sometimes people are genuinely trying to lose. there's never any medics and the adding up and picking progress means sometimes you have to wait like 15 minutes between a pug compared to tf2pickup where the next pug sometimes starts instantly
low div pugs are especially bad. nobody tries, most people want to offclass only, they take even longer to start because you have to wait for a pug runner (the easiest job on planet earth, btw) to decide they want to run some, then you have to sit in an empty vc until 12 people join, all for there to be a random chance you have to play med for someone who's completely silent and feeding
i really, really want to play competitive fun pugs but it seems so bleak