Fair point. But what I am saying is you can't just base rankings for a player off just i58 in terms of performance. Secondly the bias comes in because frankly not much support from the casters on Froyo's side or Jasmine's side but they clearly had a lot more over the top points to make about EU teams.

To respond yes I did but it does not change my opinion. I have formed these views based off me watching these players perform outside of and in i58. I also feel the potratyal of non-EU teams was a bit biased. Even still it is my opinion. No need to be salty about it.

hmmm. Is it just me or were these players merely just ranked on their team's finishing positions at LAN? -.- Fishy.
Once again I disagree with your choices on pocket scout. Hafficool should not get firs imo. This was actually his worst performance at LAN imo because he was constantly getting outplayed by other scouts and his K/D ratio was not something to gawk out putting it nicely. It was rather low. It should be Hafficool 4th, Yui 3rd, Ast 2nd and B4nny 1st.

Also I disagree with Starks description a bit. He WAS one the best roamers in EU during season 16,17 and 20 but quite frankly I think he kinda sucks now in my brutal opinion. Demo idk. Never seen him play it except once in a pug. Scout definitely a good scout hands down though.

These rankings m8. Freestate deserves second. He did so much for Froyo imo.

Ok fair point but I didn't think Phororfor did that badly at i58 tbh but I maybe wrong. I know Shade though. So Shade is a definite upgrade in terms of experience.

Nah dude. No chance. Sorry to say. Half American and Half Canadian or riot. Ok serious point now. Idk why phorophor got cut which is wierd. But I really like this roster. It has got great potential.

Ya true. Who knows maybe I am wrong. But both are solid players of different classes.

Wait hold on a sec. I am watching shade's FROYOTECH stream right now and it appears that B4nny is actually pocket and Paddie is on scout with Freestate.

Haha I appreciate the support and I honestly would love to play at Insomnia but I also feel I am not up to standard yet and costs is an issue. Also there is no point of making a South African team any more. The 'competitive community' if I can call it that has become even smaller with all the good players leaving for CSGO or Dota or Battlefield. So firstly there are not enough players to put many teams together any more let alone one. Secondly there are no leagues, no tournaments, nothing. Not even one weekend cups. All the organisers left and no one is willing to take up the mantle of organiser. Secondly those players that remain are no where nearly as good like the oldschool players.(No joke, literally dm donkeys most of them. xD) Also a lot of them like to moan, whine. be toxic or blame other players instead of fixing their mistakes. So I don't think we could even get a well-behaved team there even if we tried. :/

Sorry to burst your bubble but no. For many reasons. Mainly South African players will have no where near the gamesense or dm to compete with EU. Mainly not the gamesense.

Hey relax guys. You guys in NA honestly have it better. In my competitive scene of South Africa if it even deserves to be called that. All we do are dm donkey pickups where there are no new players really coming in and more leaving...we just have the same players who adon't feel the need to improve because they are so confident of their own skill. That is bad. Also if people want to play other games then support them. Don't hate. More players will come eventually.

Srs? Or just banter?

Ya something like that he was saying. Just can't remember his exact words.

Ya that sounds right. Haffi did say he would be spending time in OW although I did not believe it at first. Maybe he is.