Probably a unpopular opinion but hey here goes nothing. (I'm not the best at putting what i think down in writing due to being severely dyslexic so forgiver the grammar.)

To me the "statements" from ETF2l and other sites seem top be forgetting what the TF2 comp scene is. Its a community league run almost entirely on volunteers and kept alive by people loving the game.

Harassment and what counts as harassment has, to me anyway lost, its meaning this day and age. The internet is a shitty place and I know of incidents in my years with TF2 that are much worse than being insulted on twitter.

I'll give you a brief example:

I'n 2011 Brevick killed hundreds of Norwegians kids I played in a team with two Norwegians who personally knew kids who had died and lost friends. During a PCW an entire team made fun and insulted the whole situation causing my friends on the team to be visibly upset. This was a bunch of edgy Swedish kids being cunts and do you know what happened after?

We made a post about it and the entire community black listed them from playing. No one scrimmed them and they left the game shortly after. As a whole the community is full of normal people who when they see something awful they make a stand against it.

If people are awful and the community finds out we don't just do nothing we don't play them. This is how its always been.

Why are we treating this situation like a politician or famous person with millions of followers made these comments.Lets not forgot what and who these guys are. Teenagers playing TF2 before they have to do something productive later on making edgy unfunny jokes at other peoples expense.

Ban the guys black list them from playing sure but why make it out like we are "taking a stance" on harassment? All we have done now is make every case of shit talk that for years and years would just be shrugged off now a possible fine and ban?

Uberchain if you are reading this the stuff that you talked about is awful and anyone who knows me personally knows that sexual harassment and assault is something I take very seriously. But I think the dumb comments made on twitter by some kids aren't the focus here or at-least what you intended with the post. I think this has all derailed and taken away from what you wanted to say.

I have left the game and i guess none of this really effects me anymore but seeing ETF2L try and act like something it has never been made me want to post this.

Peace

And I'd do it again

never been a better time to quit tbh

I also quit. Goodbye :<

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Negative

The invite group is going to be tiny

As far as I know these are the teams going.

(sorry if i didn't mention your name but I'm trying to name possible invite group teams)

Seven?
Svift ? (If they raise money)
Low pander (if they raise money)
Antic
nunya mix team thing?
loli squad mix team thing?

And probably some more mix teams that might pop up.

Looking at this it is going to be kinda a disappointing lan. With the only actual teams in the invite group that I know of going is antic and lowpander and seven?

I don't know if you agree with me but I hate lans where the only teams playing are mix teams. It makes it seem pointless.
I'm sure the social aspect will be fun. But it might not be one to stay glued to the stream for.
Feel free to let me know if more teams are going but this is what I know so far.

EDIT: I'd love for these teams to surprise me however. But judging from the officials I watched I don't have much faith.

https://livestreamfails.com/post/2108

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Team is dead. Maros and Funs will be playing for new teams next season.

Thai is leaving due to work and Sil and Spudd are here just to end the season.

I left because I might as well get a head start on trying to find a new team as I don't have one lined up.

If they want to play playoffs that's their decision but the team is dead.

Sorry to let people down if you expected a close game or whatever but the team is cancer to this scene. I hope teams look at this as a warning of what Not to do. Cutting your players can be a quick way to the top but its better to try and stick with what you have and make it work. Its better for our players to spread around the scene to make other teams better.

"Double mix" is a lot nicer to say than a "in house pug".

oh my name got changed...epic

Faceit is the better option. If you can hop on the discord and use comms its not nearly as bad as TF2 center lobbies.

Its a shame we don't have newbie mixes anymore. It gave brand new players some structure and you played with people who were in the same boat as you. I used to run a lot of theses some years ago and we used to have teams formed from the mixes which was really good for the scene.

If you want my advice i would say this:

EDIT: If i was to start playing TF2 fresh in the scene i would try to actively find a team in open as quickly as possible. When you get some league experience under your belt it gives you an idea of what is needed from you to be a good player. Watch demos or stv's of the best players. Consume as much 6v6 TF2 as you can. Unlike when i started there is a huge amount of resources for you to help you improve. Its all been linked on this thread.

Tf2 center is basically pure trash tf2 and I would avoid it at all costs. It has a really awful player base of some of the most toxic players I've ever met in TF2.(and that's impressive in this community) and new players will just get slammed by stacks or shitalked by their own team.

Face it is slightly better but still not ideal for new players. Every time I play face it I am put on a team with Russians who cant communicate in English or don't say anything at all. People give up after a round loss throw or just troll the entire game. Sure you might get a good game with communication every now and again but it is rare. It was potential to be amazing. But ironically because of the low player count in matchmaking the worse off it is. Which is why if you are going to play some semi organised TF2 you should jump in the queue. Unlike TF2 center I wouldn't avoid it like the plague.

Honestly I would play Mixchamp (if its still active) if you aren't picked on pugchamp or play Pugchamp at off peak times. They are at least organised and for the most part not toxic bad experiences.

EDIT: You should play MGE and jump maps if you plan on playing in 6v6 in my opinion. It gives you control of the game and you get used to certain mechanics which may not be apparent in pubs. All classes benefit when you grind those out.

I've been thinking about starting newbie mixes again. So if anything happens on that i'll make a post about it.

1. Venue
2. Security
3. Good planning

Seem to be the most important things to keep in mind.