ScrewballrzrSecondly, think of a time that you need 16 gbs for gaming
There are allreeady several games that make my ram use go over 8gb Thirdly I agree with that, so I used a gold+ psu and will probably last him if he doesn't do overly crazy builds
I would hardly consider a OC'd i5 and a R9 390 "overly crazy" Fourth(ly?) the case you listed is barely better then the one I listed and case usually last as long as the motherboard size standard stays the same, they will only break if you go to lans often, and or move your pc a shit ton. I have plastic shitty pc cases that have lasted me years purely because I have not moved them often
The case you linked is a microtower which severely limits upgradability. High end Micro ATX boards are few and more expensive than there standard ATX counterparts.
Genuinely curious, what games use over 8gbs?
The never stated the my build was "overly crazy", just stating that you could not use it for a build that requires more wattage or is "overly crazy"
standard atx
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130770&cm_re=atx_motherboard-_-13-130-770-_-Product
$149.99
(hard to define so I clicked on best selling)
then with most recent chipset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132567&cm_re=atx_motherboard-_-13-132-567-_-Product
$144.99
cheapest atx on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138395&cm_re=atx-_-13-138-395-_-Product
$35.99
most expensive atx on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182672&cm_re=atx-_-13-182-672-_-Product
$700.99
(sever motherboard so I won't count it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132637&cm_re=atx-_-13-132-637-_-Product
$484.99
standard micro atx
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512&cm_re=micro_atx_motherboard-_-13-157-512-_-Product
$79.99
(once again best selling)
then with most recent chipset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128874&cm_re=micro_atx_motherboard-_-13-128-874-_-Product
$79.99
(once again best selling)
cheapest on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135343&cm_re=micro_atx_motherboard-_-13-135-343-_-Product
$31.99
most expensive on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP4057982&cm_re=micro_atx_motherboard-_-9SIA6ZP4057982-_-Product
$249.99
Overall micro atx are cheaper
To compare high end is harder
So I did lga 1151
And to ability to overclock (Z170) (no blck overclock)
the best rating
Micro ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182978&cm_re=atx_motherboard-_-13-182-978-_-Product
$132.99
ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130870&cm_re=atx_motherboard-_-13-130-870-_-Product
$299.99
There are more atx board though... got me there.
However Micro ATX is cheaper, according to my method, which probably isn't the best way to do it but the only way i could think to do it.
Conclusion is, is that yes there are more ATX boards, yes a full ATX tower is needed for full expansion.
However are atx more expensive for a decent one, and micro atx would be cheaper overall including case
I spent to much time on this.