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#309 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
dollarlayerLiberal logic right there. If you don't agree with something, just refute it without debate and close down the discussion. If you don't want to participate in this thread, just don't, no ones forcing you to. Just be mature about it and ignore it and enjoy the rest of tf.tv. And just an FYI a difference in opinion or belief isn't ignorance.

except you're basically the only conservative arguing right now and the rest of us are liberals? one person wants to close the thread and suddenly its GOD DAMN THESE PESKY LIBERALS THEY'RE ALL THE SAME THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO PARTICIPATE

posted about 8 years ago
#295 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
kittyndollarlayerkittyndollarlayer have u ever met a trans person irl ever before ever
Yes, in Asia I've had them try to hit on me and my straight friends before. Not a good experience. :(were u in a bathroom

http://i.imgur.com/Njwfw6h.png

posted about 8 years ago
#287 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
dollarlayer"There are also nearly 700,000 transgender individuals in the US." Oh so not even 1 out of 700,000 people are ever going to do that?

wtf is even your argument? so 1/700,000 makes it a fucking giant problem, enough to not allow trans people to enter bathrooms of their preferred gender? how is "1/700,000" even an argument that just makes u look stupid because u seriously care that much about that 1 trans person who is a rapist, enough to ban ALL TRANS PEOPLE from using the restroom of their preferred gender, but not the hundreds of thousands of cis people who are rapists, and those who rape trans people. that's like saying some people use knives to stab people, so we should ban knives.

posted about 8 years ago
#263 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
dollarlayerfatswimdudei think the problem there is that the person was videotaping in a restroom, not anything to do with gender identity
He was dressed as women, how do you know that he doesn't identify as one?

This is one of the very problems im trying to point out is even if he is a straight man and was just in it for the recordings, allowing the opposite sex into a rest room just opens up a door of possibilities for crimes. There are some pretty small cameras now days if he wasn't an idiot he could have totally gotten away with it.

he doesn't identify as one it's clear throughout the entire article, people like this just make trans people look bad that doesn't mean trans people should be punished as a whole because of some terrible people. the facts are this: actual trans people have 0 cases of sexual assault against cis in public bathrooms. ur post is literally cis guy vs cis women i don't understand. plus, if you really believe that is a problem, what about all the trans people being sexually assaulted on a daily basis by cis people because they're forced to be in a bathroom that doesn't fit their gender identity?

who cares that 1 of every 2 transgender individuals experience being sexually assaulted in their life. 1 2 3

basically my point is either way you go, that kind of shit is going to happen. but if you let trans people go into the bathroom they identify as it will happen less often if you're including everyone (aka yes trans people aswell)

like as you say, we have it now: Disgusting VILE "trans" women will go into women's bathrooms and sexually assault women, so the solution would be to not allow that right?

but if that were not allowed, trans women will just be fucking sexually assaulted in men's bathrooms, far more often than cis people getting sexually assaulted by trans people.

imagine

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/bEIMe1aV4OwRNjDJ67Allw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NDI3O2g9NjQwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://40.media.tumblr.com/1f492d69ef84964c14bf9936f27dd472/tumblr_inline_nxzbzgepUN1t1n6uk_540.jpg

her in a men's bathroom because by your standards your method would prevent sexual assault, so she wouldn't be sexually assaulted in a men's bathroom? (she's trans if you can't tell)

tl;dr explain your solution because it seems like what you want to do will just cause more sexual assault ironically, but instead to trans people

posted about 8 years ago
#235 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
dollarlayerBeen away from this thread for a while, but I'd just like to echo that I agree with almost everything hooli's been posting.

I'm starting to notice an interesting trend.

We have some obvious liberals and then some people that fall more on the conservative side of the political spectrum (at least in regards to this subject). When a liberal disagrees with a conservative poster often times there are some direct attacks and name calling. Such as "you're an idiot" or "you have no brain" or "you are a retard."

Conservatives are labeled as being intolerant racists bigots for not accepting that being transsexual is not normal and doesn't require any mental treatment or therapy. The same liberals however are ironically being intolerant for not accepting that someone else may have a varying opinion on the subject and a varying idea on how to treat the individual. The liberals want to ban people and tell them to stop posting when the post a valid argument which they are unable to refute in many cases.

Most liberals in this thread seem to feel that everyone should have the freedom to do whatever they want to their bodies and behave however they want "as long as it doesn't hurt anyone". If that means identifying as a straight individual or as a dragon lady, or a blind person with no legs (because they cut them off) its all good and they don't need any psychological treatment. I mean its not like a 52 year old man identifying as a 6 year old girl, in girls bathroom at an elementary school could be considered a problem by the kids or parents.... (/sarcasm). Do you see how tolerance of accepting a 52 year old man as a 6 year old girl, could lead to quite a big problem in some environments? You have to look at both sides of the coin. Sure if that 52 year old man that thinks he is a 6 year old girl lives in an isolated environment, no one would really care about how he acts or behaves or what restroom he enters. But when the individual enters normal society and expects everyone to bend over backwards to accommodate his needs at their expense, it becomes a problem.

this literally includes a strawman, false equivalence, and a slippery slope fallacy all in one fucking post. maybe even more. holy shit.

posted about 8 years ago
#134 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
solainteresting read, sex change for children is classified as abuse for pediatricians http://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

heeeere we go again

posted about 8 years ago
#132 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
hooliharvestaww i can't dehumanize gay people anymore :(
like if you're using the idea of someone being gay as an insult it's not some kind of crazy sjw bullshit that people are gonna be upset by thatDon't patronize me. I'm merely pointing out the cultural difference not reminiscing or whatever you think it was.

well, that is what i thought it was, by the tone of how it was written. its a common argument against social justice and treating people like normal human beings, that the past was better, etc. etc. so that's how i interpreted it. my bad.

plus you were agreeing with magikarp who said "back when humanity wasn't as disappointing." and then you agreed using an example of how society is disappointing (or at least it seemed like it) because if today spiderman was released using a joke that dehumanized being gay, people would throw a fit. as if it's ridiculous that people would be upset. but if that wasn't your intention i apologize lol

posted about 8 years ago
#122 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
hooliMagikarpI remember how back then, all this shit was never really much of an issue and humanity wasn't as this disappointing. It is a true wonder on how things will be in a few years at this rate.Yes, it's funny to think back to this scene. This movie is 14 years old and would've been torn to shreds today.

aww i can't dehumanize gay people anymore :(
like if you're using the idea of someone being gay as an insult it's not some kind of crazy sjw bullshit that people are gonna be upset by that

posted about 8 years ago
#109 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
sheepy_dogs_handSorry but i never said whites should be judged better or treated better. i said that whites have accomplished more which is a fact. I never anything about treated people differently. Try calming down and read things slowly next time.sheepy_dogs_handFrom my point of view people should be judged on what their actions and what they have accomplished, and whites are definitely superior in that regard.
posted about 8 years ago
#93 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
hooli Considering you don't walk around with your genitals exposed nobody would know that they've done the surgery meaning these suicides are caused by the biological damage of the surgery.

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harvestbut they can see your adam's apple, or your big shoulders, or your wide face and prominent jaw. (or reverse for trans men)
it's not like every transition causes all trans people to look completely cisgender and passing, in fact post op causes more problems society wise than pre op, because at least pre-op trans people pass as cis, transitioning is far more than just "change the sex organs!!" so yes you could easily say post op trans people are more likely to become suicidal especially if the transition didn't cause them to fully turn out like that dude i posted on the first page and society laughs at them because they think they're a drag queen crossdresser or something
posted about 8 years ago
#88 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
sheepy_dogs_handWell if you look back at history whites are superior to some other races in many wayssheepy_dogs_handFrom my point of view people should be judged on what their actions and what they have accomplished and so whites are definitely superior in that regard.

you LITERALLY just said white people should be judged better and treated better, then asked why you're being called a racist what the fuck

posted about 8 years ago
#84 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
hooliharvestas do gay people, it's almost as if society's awful treatment of trans people leads to a high suicide rate, on TOP of the already established gender dysphoria and internal conflict.
I posted the swedish study to demonstrate that sex assignment surgery often won't make the subject happy and can easily lead to suicide. Patients became 20x more likely to commit suicide. It is very significant and perhaps an indicator that an answer lies in a different direction.

The statistic is for post op patients so the way society treats transgendered people does not have a significant effect on the suicide statistic considering society can't see what's in your pants.

but they can see your adam's apple, or your big shoulders, or your wide face and prominent jaw. (or reverse for trans men)
it's not like every transition causes all trans people to look completely cisgender and passing, in fact post op causes more problems society wise than pre op, because at least pre-op trans people pass as cis, transitioning is far more than just "change the sex organs!!" so yes you could easily say post op trans people are more likely to become suicidal especially if the transition didn't cause them to fully turn out like that dude i posted on the first page and society laughs at them because they think they're a drag queen crossdresser or something

posted about 8 years ago
#67 chart thread in Music, Movies, TV
sheepy_dogs_handTry LSD and the search for god and beach house - bloom

i already actively listen to both (beach house is also on my chart too) maybe i should make a list of shoegaze bands i'm already aware of so there's less confusion when recommending me things hahahah

beach house, slowdive, my bloody valentine, ride, sun dial, paik, coaltar of the deepers, medicine, sweet trip, lush, malory, adorable, kairon; IRSE!, fleeting joys, catherine wheel, lsd and the search for god, whirr, astrobrite, crash city saints, alcian blue, air formation, engineers, lilys, fishmans, brian jonestown massacre, the jesus and mary chain, the ecstasy of saint theresa, all natural lemon and lime flavors, have a nice life, doves, pale saints, the verve, starflyer 59, pinkshinyultrablast, and ulrich schnauss

aaand all the artists that have been already mentioned in this thread. so don't rec me one of these artists :> sorry for the confusion

posted about 8 years ago
#62 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
hooliPersons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population.

as do gay people, it's almost as if society's awful treatment of trans people leads to a high suicide rate, on TOP of the already established gender dysphoria and internal conflict.

posted about 8 years ago
#59 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
dollarlayermustardoverlordMaybe the reason it's being reclassified is that it's not a disorder? Did you ever consider that???
If its not a disorder then why is it being treated with an antipsychotic drug often used to treat other delusional and paranoia disorders? Please look up Pimozide.

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mustardoverlordhooliPersons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
1. Persons with transsexualism before sex reassignment have higher risks for all of those things too.

2. "Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism"

You just proved my point, which is that gender dysphoria in and of itself is not responsible for the increased risks of depression, suicidal behavior, and mortality.

3. This study is only calling for continual treatment to deal with the depression and suicidal thoughts of the patient group, not to reverse the SRS, at least as far as I can tell.
hooliOUTCOME:
There was an excellent response to pimozide 2 mg daily, with a cessation of both cross-dressing and the wish for sex reassignment. When, after 1 year, the dose was reduced to 1 mg daily, there was a rapid return of the cross-dressing and the wish for sex reassignment. An increase in the dose again led to a remission which has been maintained since then.
CONCLUSION:
Pharmacotherapy with pimozide should be considered in cases of doubtful gender dysphoria.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
This is a single article from 1996, on ONE patient, with no hint as to whether or not the findings are replicable (most positive findings are not), and even then it suggests that pharmacotherapy works in cases of doubtful gender dysphoria- as in, if the person is wrong
posted about 8 years ago
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