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#1571 PC Build Thread in Hardware

SetsulCPU: i7-6700 - 1414,03 R$
Mobo: GA-B150M-D3H - 538,75 R$
RAM: 2x8GB 2400MHz CL15 - 324,90 R$
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB - 279,90 R$
GPU: Zotac GTX 1060 AMP! - 1525,04 R$
PSU: Corsair CX430 - 215,00 R$
Case: Thermaltake Versa H25 - 249,00 R$ at pichau 233,75 R$ at fgtec but it would be the only thing from fgtec so I'm not sure what would be better for you.

~4530 / 4550 R$

What's left is the SSD. 120GB 850 Evo would be easy. 250GB 850 Evo would be 100 R$ over budget but you could get a cheaper case.
I don't like cheaping out on the case though and the 850 Evo isn't in stock anyway. Since you want to build asap here's two alternatives that are cheaper and in stock:
Crucial M500 240GB - 309,40 R$, total would be ~4840 R$
Crucial BX200 240GB
- 379,90 R$, if only having 2 shops (pichau and kabum) would be better than having to buy 2 things from fgtec as well. Total would be 4930 R$.

FYI: The PSU is possible because the 1060 only needs one 6 pin connector, other options like the 970 or 390 need two 6/8 pin connectors. Wattage wouldn't be a problem but for some reason the CX430 only got one 6/8 pin connector.
The Seasonic S12II 520W is better, but since you'd be buying more parts at different shops anyway you could get the CX450M for 311,90 R$. ~30 R$ over budget for the fgtec-less build, otherwise ~4940 R$ total.

I felt it was worth taking a shot at a mostly fgtec build again with the M500 and CX430.
CPU: i7-6700 - 1519,80 R$
Mobo: GA-B150M-D3H - 538,75 R$
RAM: 2x 8GB 2133MHz CL14 - 464,10 R$
SSD: Crucial M500 120GB - 191,25 R$
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB - 296,65 R$
GPU: Zotac GTX 1060 AMP! - 1525,04 R$
PSU: Corsair CX430 - 233,75 R$
Case: Thermaltake Versa H25 - 233,75 R$

5003,09 R$
If you absolutely must stay under 5000 R$ get the Toshiba DT01ACA 1TB instead of the Seagate HDD. That would bring the total down to 4969,09 R$.

So yeah, i7 + 1060 are possible for both options. Seems like I wasted all that time trying to figure out if Hyperthreading would be worth it or if you'd benefit from CUDA.

Pros for each build:
1. mostly fgtec + pichau:
- Only Mobo and GPU from pichau and the rest from fgtec is mostly fgtec like you wanted.

2. pichau + kabum:
- cheaper than 1.
- 250 GB SSD instead of 120GB
- better RAM (and maybe HDD, depending on which one you choose for 1.) than 1.
- still only 2 shops (3. needs 3)

3. pichau + kabum + fgtec:
- cheaper than both 1. and 2.
- otherwise same benefits as 2. (larger SSD, better RAM and HDD)
Or if you get the CX450M:
- cheaper than 1., almost the same price as 2.
- same benefits as 2. as before but now also
- better PSU.

I think I might have put a bit too much work and thought into this, but I felt it hard to be worth the wait.

Wow. That is a lot of information.
Thanks a lot for all the builds, the info and the time you put into it.
I will be analyzing them and proceeding to the building process.
Thanks again

posted about 8 years ago

#1569 PC Build Thread in Hardware

SetsulThe other shops appear to be slightly cheaper though.

CPU: i5-6600
RAM: 2x 8GB 2133MHz CL14
Mobo: GA-B150M-D3H
SSD: 850 Evo 120GB
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA 1TB
PSU: Seasonic S12II 520W
Case: Thermaltake Versa H25
Mobo and SSD not from fgtec, without GPU the total is around 3115 BRL.
If you want to stick with fgtec I'd get the RX 480 but the reference design isn't that great.

This is sort of the baseline.
All of this is based on the assumption that you're not paying in installments.

Now if you drop down the GPU to a 970 you could get an i7, but I think the 8GB VRAM are worth it for what you're doing or rather the stuttering the 970 gets once you start using more than 3.5GB, whereas the i7 most of the time won't help at all and when it does it might not be much.

If you're willing to use other shops for the GPU you could either get
-a 390, about as fast as the 480 but cheaper so you'd still able to get the i7-6700 and have 8GB VRAM or
-a 1060, which would be around the same price as the 480, but should be faster in rendering and maybe even for calculations because the reference 480 can't keep it's boost clock at all times. Also supports CUDA, but like I said I'm not sure if you'll benefit from that.

If you're willing to get some other parts from other shops as well I'm pretty sure I could fit a 250GB SSD, an i7 and the 1060 in the budget.

I may be willing to buy from other shops. Feel free to try and fit those into the budget.

posted about 8 years ago

#1567 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Setsul#1562
I'd say GeForce / Radeon drivers work well enough that Quadros / FirePros aren't worth the premium for a single person. Companies are different, but let's not get into that.

Don't confuse CUDA and rendering. CUDA and OpenCL are used for computations. Not everything has CUDA support.
The thing is AMD needs more raw computational power to get the same performance in rendering. E.g. the RX 480 has about 30% more GFLOPs than a GTX 1060 while being slower in DX11. When you're just crunching numbers (CUDA/OpenCL) the raw performance usually makes up for any performance benefit CUDA got. If CUDA is supported at all, keep that in mind.

I asked about ECC before. Xeons are exactly the same Pentiums/i3s/i5s/i7s, literally the same chips, but they support ECC. Similar to the -K CPUs for overclock. Yes they do cost more. Intel also is blocking them on normal chipsets now so you need a more expensive one to use them (see Z chipsets for overclocking).
You said you didn't want ECC so there's no point in getting a Xeon.

Which shops are you going to buy from? I should probably get started with a partlist.
I'm still not exactly sure what your use case is going to but I'll try to come up with a somewhat balanced build.

What sizes do you want/need for the SSD and HDD?

I wanted the SSD for the OS and some other programs therefore I believe 120GB should be enough. Regarding the HDD, I wanted 1TB
Not sure about where I am buying the parts yet, but here are some trusted brazilian online shops:
www.pichau.com.br
www.kabum.com.br
www.terabyteshop.com.br
www.fgtec.com.br
Buying most of the parts from the fgtec store would be preferred.

posted about 8 years ago

#1561 PC Build Thread in Hardware

SetsulNew post for visibility.

#1552
I'm still trying to gauge how much GPU power you need.
I don't think I've asked you this already, if I have just quote it: When are you going to build?

Also I forgot to ask: Do you want a Quadro/FirePro? Or is a GeForce / Radeon fine?

I will be building it ASAP.
I did some reading on the Quadros and given what I could afford it did not seem like the best option compared to the GeForce possibilities for much cheaper. But do you think that would be very benefitial?
Also, isn't Nvidia(geforce) preffered over AMD for rendering because of CUDA? I know very little about this subject so I thought you mght be able to give some decent information.
On another note are the xeon processors any good for my project? Also not really familiarized with them but I have heard some people recommend those.

posted about 8 years ago

#1551 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Setsul
EDIT2:
#1539
After some googling I've confirmed my suspicion: The i7 will make almost no difference.
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Support-for-multi-core-processors-with-AutoCAD.html
http://betterrevit.com/tips/hyper-threading-for-revit/
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/3dsMax12-StarDestroyers1.png
In fact since Hyperthreading does almost nothing even a Pentium (should be almost the same speed as an i3) should be fine as long as you get the highest clockrate.
http://allcompanies.website/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/4d71cb769da8660ed87eec36c17ceca2.jpg
Judging by that ~50% slower than an i5.

I'll still have to look up how much GPU power these programs need and how much RAM would be reasonable.
Another edit will follow.

I will be doing a decent amount of rendering on the PC with most of the programs and from what I have read rendering would be benefit from the better CPU as well as the hyper threading. I might eventually do some video editing which I believe also requires a decent CPU so I would like to also take that into consideration.

posted about 8 years ago

#1538 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Setsul#1533

#1536
The 6600K is still high end. Low end is <50$.
Overclocking yes/no?
Any games?
Need/want ECC?
Just making sure: Are you actually in Brazil or just fake flagging. Budget always in local currency please.

I'll have to look up the programs so I'll get to the partlist this evening at best.

I am aware that the 6600K is still high end, however I was wondering how much better my performance would possibly be by getting the 6700k for example.
There will be no overclocking and no ECC memory. Regarding the games, CSGO and TF2 might eventually be played but I just want to focus on the programs I use to work and not the games.
Also I need a monitor but no keyboard and no mouse.
And I am indeed in Brazil so if you need it in my currency I should be able to get around 5000BRL.

posted about 8 years ago

#1535 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Hello
I am looking to build a pc to work on softwares such as Auto Civil 3D, Revit and 3Ds Max, however I lack the knowledge in some aspects of the hardware selection and therefore I would appreciate if someone could help out.
Would I benefit much from a CPU such as the i7 6700k or is that not needed and I should be looking at a lower end CPU such as the i5 6600k?
Also what kind of video card should I be aiming at?
My budget should be around $1200

posted about 8 years ago

#127 Dreamhack Cluj-Napoca in CS2 General Discussion

Navi x LG on Dust 2 was quite entertaining but the decision making for both teams was absolutely dreadful.

posted about 9 years ago

#22 ETF2L Premiership Week 1 Trifecta in Events

EU Gimmicks everywhere

posted about 9 years ago

#30 CS:GO update for 9/15/15 in CS2 General Discussion

JuicykiozThe m4a1 is just awful atm.
Pistols are extremely OP.
The animations are horrible.
they fix the hitboxes and all you can do is complain

Ofc the hitboxes being fixed is a good thing.
However the rest is just not good at all. The m4a1 is absolutely dreadful.

posted about 9 years ago

#28 CS:GO update for 9/15/15 in CS2 General Discussion

The m4a1 is just awful atm.
Pistols are extremely OP.
The animations are horrible.

posted about 9 years ago

#25 ESL/ESEA Dubai in CS2 General Discussion

invictai couldnt watch any matches cuz of school
someone gimme the results

http://www.hltv.org/results/
Just search for the matches you want

posted about 9 years ago

#2 Need backups!! in Recruitment (looking for players)

Added you on Steam.

posted about 10 years ago

#6 LF Medic Open Team in Recruitment (looking for players)

Still need a medic? I would be interested in trying out if you have not found one yet.

posted about 10 years ago

#4 kioz - Med -LFT UGC Gold / Open in Recruitment (looking for team)

I will post in the UGC forum as soon as I can well. And yes, I am aware that there is a UGC South America, however I already play in the brazilian league, and the players who are in the UGC SA are the same ones that are in the league. Therefore I am trying to get into the NA scenario in order to play with other people as well as improve my game.

posted about 10 years ago