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the problem isn't with highlander, it's that tf2 is actually a shit game that doesn't support a competitive mode of that caliber

I like sash

MustardOverlord

shit this name got even more obnoxious looking

nvm thanks fox

if they take themselves or CA seriously, then they certainly do

I don't mean to bash Highlander, I think it is fun and doesn't deserve to be flamed, but I think it has its problems (as much as 6s does).

the issue with HL is that there are too many players in a game with less than perfect balance and design.

In HL it's much more stagnant because it is much more difficult to punish a team's mistake just because of the amount of players on the map.

Imagine playing any sport with an extra 10-20 people on the field. It suddenly makes it a lot more difficult to accomplish the game's objectives not because of the skill of the opponents but because of the new cramped nature of the game. The best solution for this would be a bigger field, bigger boundaries, etc. But the tf2 we have now is what were stuck with.

TF2 came to the 6s format after many different types of experimental game modes,(5v5, 8v8, 7v7, etc) but 6v6 was accepted as it allowed players to competitively play without being restricted by the sandbox that is tf2.

Now is it appealing that you're allowed to get away with more individually in HL?
yes.

Is it appealing that your role and your actions may not have as many dire consequences of those playing 6s?
yes.

As Highlander players improve in skill and knowledge of tf2, they'll be looking to push their skill towards actually impacting the game in a more direct sense. Maybe a player who pursues Highlander will look more towards the team aspect (not that this is absent in 6s either) but most players pursue competition for individual purposes, perhaps to seek personal 'glory' and improvement. My theory is that as highlander players improve in skill, they'll be more inclined to move to 6s so that they can truly hone their abilities and talents as a player.

can you get cool frags and do neat plays in Highlander?
certainly.

however, the limits of Highlander's boundaries keep players from truly accomplishing things that are respective of their skill level (big attraction to newer inexperienced players.) Invite players can compete with newer level players, the format of the game is unarguably LIMITING.

One of the main reasons we all hate titles like CoD is that any player can impact the game to same limit at any time/any place. Highlander has a ceiling on what an individual player can do in the same regard. This is especially apparent when both teams are well practiced and neither make many mistakes.

Highlander isn't bad, but it hampers creativity and competition. In a community that already hates waiting around on last on gullywash for an advantage, the idea of sitting on a cart for 40 minutes or waiting for something important to happen with enough lasting impact to force you to make a game changing decision isn't popular to this community.

Until im proved wrong that Highlander has an equally intricate meta-game as 6s TF2, I will always see Highlander as a more casual game format (NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT) StarCraft may have 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and FFA leagues but where players skill and decision making is most represented is in it's most popular game format (1v1). does this make the other formats invalid, boring, or obsolete? of course not. You can play whatever game tickles your fancy. Until I see highlander players cruising into the top levels of 6s play, and dominating at that level will I truly respect highlander, but to me it's just a transition into 6s, much in the same way tf2lobby is a transition into 6s.

tl;dr

TF2 is a sandbox, how the fuck are you supposed to enjoy building a sand castle with 18 people in the sandbox when the sandbox barely supports 12.

How do we vote to get out of esea

sounds off topic to me

seems like a fine place

Majora's Mask

try talking to real athletes and it's even worse :(

good luck then

on the flip side some people play for 100000 hours and still blow

girls

pick this guy up just for sash's rabbit