Ban the crossbow and watch a lot of medic mains disappear.
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AmarokshorasIt bring some diversity to have fun in unserious games. Do you want to play every single pug/mix/dmix like your league match? I personally had a lot of fun in offseason scrims as Wrap Assasin flank Scout (before we switched our roles up).Nothing stops you from using custom whitelists in mixes, that's not an argument for an official whitelist though.
Yeah let's make a ton of whitelists (again) just because you don't want "stupid" unlocks in your officials (that nobody would use anyway).
nopeshorasDo you want to play every single pug/mix/dmix like your league match?
it would be nice in an ideal world, obviously it's never going to happen but stopping people from throwing and cheesing and essentially just ruining pugs can't be a bad thing, can it?
If your whole team is always in a perfect harmony and everyone's always chill no matter what's going on then yeah (but this isn't real).
KavshorasI don't think any nerf would make syringe guns a real alternative without changing the whole concept of the crossbow (like completely removing the ability to heal).They could do a passive downside like the blutsauger has. It was also really unpopular before it had passive reload but that shit was miserable.
It was still good without passive reload.
nykyou're too humble THEBILLDOZER
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I don't think any nerf would make syringe guns a real alternative without changing the whole concept of the crossbow (like completely removing the ability to heal).
JarateKingshorasYou're a looking at it from a different point of view. You say "let's ban everything except for what's good for the game", when I say "let's allow everything except for what's bad for the game". Those would be equal if we could separate all unlocks into strictly good and bad, but we can't.Imo "this weapon is clearly only used to dick around with" counts as bad. Not "we need to ban this asap" bad or anything, but if we're changing the whitelist anyway then it's no extra effort at all to ban things that are only ever used to be annoying and nothing more.
But I think the whole point of the follow-up survey is to see what everyone thinks about exactly that.
It bring some diversity to have fun in unserious games. Do you want to play every single pug/mix/dmix like your league match? I personally had a lot of fun in offseason scrims as Wrap Assasin flank Scout (before we switched our roles up).
Cabbage_shorasThere're lots of unlocks that are not worth banning because they're not used in 90% of the games anyway.
You could also say that there are lots of unlocks not worth allowing because they're not used in 90% of the games anyway. I think that if an unlock doesn't add anything positive to the game (e.g. sun on a stick, volcano fragment, etc.) there is no point allowing it.
You're a looking at it from a different point of view. You say "let's ban everything except for what's good for the game", when I say "let's allow everything except for what's bad for the game". Those would be equal if we could separate all unlocks into strictly good and bad, but we can't.
I think we should focus on weapons that really cause issues and are being abused often. Not on the gimmick weapons that you only see in random pugs/mixes. For example saying "I just died because a Heavy hit me in the back with Holiday Punch, THIS IS SO DUMB" isn't a good reason to ban something. There're lots of unlocks that are not worth banning because they're not used in 90% of the games anyway.
fahrenheitDoes no crusader's crossbow mean that the overdose is back
d:j
Without the crossbow it's the best option left. Medic has 4 primary weapons including stock...
Instead of making 10 pages here we could just make a test whitelist and try it out in pugs/scrims/whatever.
All the players and casters who sit there for 7 hours straight.
Can we stop with flag threads already?