I respect you for putting an offer like this with your own money, but I personally have not forgotten the bitcoin issue and the way lpkane treats players in the league.
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#248
Concerns about Flares that Care
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Vetoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj_OmtqVLxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vbY1Q_hIrI
indisputably the best post
posted about 9 years ago
#33
MAJOR TF2 update for 3/12/15
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etherbowswer5new sniper taunt
http://33.media.tumblr.com/82f88f0e4d6220065a6217c97ee1932f/tumblr_nl4copt5xc1qi98aio3_400.gif
oh my god
First thing that came to mind
That's literally the joke buddy
posted about 9 years ago
#221
Ipkane mention's TF2's existence
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pissheadspicoliTI alone must've cost valve at least a few million dollarsDoubt it. They sold $40 million dollars of those compendium things, paid a quarter of it out in prize money and kept the rest.
That's still money they have to invest for TI, regardless of it paying for itself. I'm simply saying we have little to no expenditures besides dedicated servers and a slack dev team.
posted about 9 years ago
#219
Ipkane mention's TF2's existence
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brownymasterMore recent data (though still not full 2014):
http://www.lowyat.net/2014/10/league-of-legends-is-top-earning-mmo-dota-2-left-in-ninth-place/
I edited my earlier post, I wish I could read the actual data beyond that but I don't have $2,499 to blow on a data log
posted about 9 years ago
#216
Ipkane mention's TF2's existence
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SAAM_I'd be surprised if TF2 made more money than CS+DOTA but it's probably way easier money. The community basically makes the updates now, probably paying very few people to work on TF2. all valve has to do is run their servers for the game.
edit: saw the article enigma posted, damn. doesn't say how much cs and dota are bringing in though, or how the community market is counted.
http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/22/doat-2-made-around-80-million-in-microtransaction-revenues-in-2013-according-to-analyst-firm/
Dota 80 mil CSGO 40 mil - combined 19 mil less then what tf2 brought in solo..
Despite that gap in the number of players, the better-established Team Fortress 2 brought in $139 million in microtransaction sales in 2013, according to SuperData. That’s more than $50 million more than Dota 2.
mare u talking annually or like for all time cuz dota and csgo have insanely bigger playerbases than tf2 does and i honestly cant believe that at this point tf2 is still that lucrative rofl
CURRENT PLAYERS PEAK TODAY GAME
440,799 911,142 Dota 2
250,298 464,484 Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
62,000 87,976 Team Fortress 2
that doesnt include asia/perfect world servers
im gonna need a source
They invest actual time and money into those games of course they're going to have a lot more players. Considering cost effective ratios, TI alone must've cost valve at least a few million dollars but they know it's growing potential. If we average 800k players less but manage to bring in extreme amounts of capital+profit gains above dota, with 1/5 of the effort they put into either game they could probably double or triple our player base and their profit from this game
posted about 9 years ago
#215
Ipkane mention's TF2's existence
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Yeah that's the article I was going to link. After ti I doubt were higher then DoTA for 2014, but with that type of capital gain we definitely shouldn't be treated like the red headed step child of the trio.
posted about 9 years ago
#210
Ipkane mention's TF2's existence
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pissheadspicoliwho can honestly blame them for thinking we're an inferior game? When valve essentially takes the money we made them and dumps it into cs and dota, then ignores the tf2 community in regards to almost anything. How can we as a community gain respect from other communities when valve doesn't seem to show anyTF2 players think they take their hat money and put it in CSGO. CSGO players think they take their skin money and put it in Dota. Dota players think they take their fancy courier money and put it in Steam machines or whatever.
The fact is that Valve invests little of any of its games' revenues back into them, using them for newer projects instead. Most things wrong with TF2 aren't really about money. Things like bad default settings, pointless weapons with weird stats, a bad quickplay system, bugs, unintuitive mechanics, bad weapon tooltip descriptions etc. aren't things that need money to be fixed, they just need a bit of care and attention, which is what has been missing lately.
When TF2 brings in $139 million ($40 mil more then D2+CSGO combined), but only have a small dev team and dedicated servers where do you think the money goes?
posted about 9 years ago
#208
Ipkane mention's TF2's existence
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who can honestly blame them for thinking we're an inferior game? When valve essentially takes the money we made them and dumps it into cs and dota, then ignores the tf2 community in regards to almost anything. How can we as a community gain respect from other communities when valve doesn't seem to show any
posted about 9 years ago
#206
Ipkane mention's TF2's existence
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zigzterJimiJamSo non-TF2 players aren't allowed to beat a joke to death, but it's cool for "us" to make the same asinine Bitcoin jokes every time ESEA is brought up.stopitdadWhat bothered me the most from reading through that whole post was how the cs go players just tossed tf2 aside like some childish game with silly hats and cartoon graphics. They've probably hardly played the game, let alone played it competitively. Everyone sees TF2 as a joke, and it really sucks to see it get trashed like that. It is such a fun, rewarding game and it does not deserve to be shit talked by a bunch of ignorant nerds on a forum.flatlinepart of their ignorance is valves current billing of tf2 as "the cartoon hat game" but the way they react in their ignorance is so toxic
I see shit like this on reddit every god damn time TF2 is mentioned
http://i.imgur.com/vCtjrKz.png
people just make the hat simulator joke over and over and over
it should be brought up, it's a big deal
posted about 9 years ago
#146
i'm tired of pretzels
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Nerd got counter trolled by pubstars ROFL
posted about 10 years ago
#256
ESEA's possible demise?
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Esea needs to be held accountable for their actions. Boo hoo, they're the biggest tf2 comp scene and we might lose that. They stole money from people in a shady way, they need to be shut down.
posted about 10 years ago