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Why is there always a ridiculously viewbotted stream now? The last 2 weeks straight there's always been someone with 20k viewbots and a few people with 2-6k viewbots.

Why is there always a ridiculously viewbotted stream now? The last 2 weeks straight there's always been someone with 20k viewbots and a few people with 2-6k viewbots.
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#2
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Getting tf2 the publicity it needs.

Getting tf2 the publicity it needs.
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#3
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Putting TF2 on the map.

IDK some troll with a botnet and/or lots of money. Those things aren't free to run.

Putting TF2 on the map.

IDK some troll with a botnet and/or lots of money. Those things aren't free to run.
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#4
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furries man

furries man
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#5
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Fox, use your army of loyal furries to dominate the twitch viewer count. Do it for the good of the community.

Fox, use your army of loyal furries to dominate the twitch viewer count. Do it for the good of the community.
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#6
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IrishhhhGetting tf2 the publicity it needs.

Not the publicity it deserves.

[quote=Irishhhh]Getting tf2 the publicity it needs.[/quote]
Not the publicity it deserves.
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#7
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stupid people doing stupid shit. standard tf2ers.

stupid people doing stupid shit. standard tf2ers.
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#8
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this happened to me and i didn't like it

it also happened to noted streamer raysfire and i have it on good authority that he disliked it as well

don't do this, thanks

this happened to me and i didn't like it

it also happened to noted streamer raysfire and i have it on good authority that he disliked it as well

don't do this, thanks
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#9
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????
I barely ever stream @_@

[url=http://puu.sh/9cKtr/b404e79d70.png]????[/url]
I barely ever stream @_@
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#10
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Tavy????
I barely ever stream @_@

anyone that goes live tends to get that, as evidenced by smo "0 viewer special" bo's twitch inbox

[quote=Tavy][url=http://puu.sh/9cKtr/b404e79d70.png]????[/url]
I barely ever stream @_@[/quote]
anyone that goes live tends to get that, as evidenced by smo "0 viewer special" bo's twitch inbox
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#11
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http://i.imgur.com/68yWlOE.jpg

Tf2 is popular.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/68yWlOE.jpg[/img]

Tf2 is popular.
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#12
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that guy LovinDaTacos also viewbots but he isnt on tftv :p

that guy LovinDaTacos also viewbots but he isnt on tftv :p
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Chrom3w0lfthat guy LovinDaTacos also viewbots but he isnt on tftv :p

Yeah, I was on his stream once and someone called him out on it and got banned immediately. @_@

Although the difference between him and all of the tf.tv streamers is that he does it intentionally to himself.

It's rather unsettling to a streamer who would like to apply to get partnered one day, because every time someone gets viewbotted and they apply for partner, Twitch can look back and see the random influx in the number of users in that channel on a given day/time and see that they've been using/been abused by a viewbot. It's hard to deal with too, because even if you go offline for a few minutes and then try to stream again, if the person is still in chat they can just restart the bots, which is rather unsettling.

[quote=Chrom3w0lf]that guy LovinDaTacos also viewbots but he isnt on tftv :p[/quote]

Yeah, I was on his stream once and someone called him out on it and got banned immediately. @_@

Although the difference between him and all of the tf.tv streamers is that he does it intentionally to himself.

It's rather unsettling to a streamer who would like to apply to get partnered one day, because every time someone gets viewbotted and they apply for partner, Twitch can look back and see the random influx in the number of users in that channel on a given day/time and see that they've been using/been abused by a viewbot. It's hard to deal with too, because even if you go offline for a few minutes and then try to stream again, if the person is still in chat they can just restart the bots, which is rather unsettling.
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#14
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Among The Sleep is the LoL killer.

Among The Sleep is the LoL killer.
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AndKennethIDK some troll with a botnet and/or lots of money. Those things aren't free to run.

You do know that the bots are only IRC bots right? Not expensive at all...

[quote=AndKenneth]IDK some troll with a botnet and/or lots of money. Those things aren't free to run.[/quote]

You do know that the bots are only IRC bots right? Not expensive at all...
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MemphisVonAndKennethIDK some troll with a botnet and/or lots of money. Those things aren't free to run.
You do know that the bots are only IRC bots right? Not expensive at all...

I doubt they're just IRC bots. Not saying they aren't pretty simple, but viewers != # of IRC viewers (otherwise people no logged in don't count. + IRC botting).

[quote=MemphisVon][quote=AndKenneth]IDK some troll with a botnet and/or lots of money. Those things aren't free to run.[/quote]

You do know that the bots are only IRC bots right? Not expensive at all...[/quote]
I doubt they're just IRC bots. Not saying they aren't pretty simple, but viewers != # of IRC viewers (otherwise people no logged in don't count. + IRC botting).
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#17
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MemphisVonAndKennethIDK some troll with a botnet and/or lots of money. Those things aren't free to run.
You do know that the bots are only IRC bots right? Not expensive at all...

It's easier to spoof the views through a fake request through the website.

If you were going to go the IRC bot way, you'd need to mass reg accounts, obtain Oauth token, etc. I mean it's totally doable but there are easier ways -- and I don't think viewer count is based around users in IRC since guests don't show within the IRC channel at all.

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fwiw, I'm not viewbotting. Just looked into the concept after I saw Ray's stream explode.

[quote=MemphisVon][quote=AndKenneth]IDK some troll with a botnet and/or lots of money. Those things aren't free to run.[/quote]

You do know that the bots are only IRC bots right? Not expensive at all...[/quote]
It's easier to spoof the views through a fake request through the website.

If you were going to go the IRC bot way, you'd need to mass reg accounts, obtain Oauth token, etc. I mean it's totally doable but there are easier ways -- and I don't think viewer count is based around users in IRC since guests don't show within the IRC channel at all.

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fwiw, I'm not viewbotting. Just looked into the concept after I saw Ray's stream explode.
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#18
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Yeah, IRC bots are rarely the method used for viewbotting - if you look at viewer lists, particularly during massive viewbots (like the 10k+ ones) you'll usually see significantly less accounts than viewers; generally like 200 which are mostly people coming in to see why this guy playing tf2 has thousands of viewers. It's especially easy to see through a separate IRC client which will tell you how many people are actually in the channel. Granted, you'll probably have at least some viewers who don't have an account on 100+ viewer streams, but the majority (I'd say about 80%, maybe less on something like a League or SC stream but still significant) are going to have accounts and chat. Cobra is more correct in that it's easier to spoof requests to the site, almost like a DDOS lite, and it's the reason why @BotDetectorBot judges viewbots by a large number of unregistered viewers.

Granted, you can use a bunch of IRC bots, and I've seen it done, but it's much more intensive (as said above you need to reg accounts, get auths, etc) and as such I've only seen it limited to like 200 views or so, maybe a few more. I'm actually rather certain that's the method that Tacos kid uses, though; his views include a lot of real accounts.

As a side note, the kid viewbotting tf2 streams lately always uses an account with a variation of the name furaffinity (no, I'm not kidding). So far I've seen 3 or 4 accounts of his and he's too retarded to use a different alias apparently. If you get botted, look for him, ban him, and report him; point out that it's another alt. I don't know if twitch will IP ban anyone but I did say that it was his 4th account last time I reported him.

Yeah, IRC bots are rarely the method used for viewbotting - if you look at viewer lists, particularly during massive viewbots (like the 10k+ ones) you'll usually see significantly less accounts than viewers; generally like 200 which are mostly people coming in to see why this guy playing tf2 has thousands of viewers. It's especially easy to see through a separate IRC client which will tell you how many people are actually in the channel. Granted, you'll probably have at least some viewers who don't have an account on 100+ viewer streams, but the majority (I'd say about 80%, maybe less on something like a League or SC stream but still significant) are going to have accounts and chat. Cobra is more correct in that it's easier to spoof requests to the site, almost like a DDOS lite, and it's the reason why [url=https://twitter.com/BotDetectorBot]@BotDetectorBot[/url] judges viewbots by a large number of unregistered viewers.

Granted, you can use a bunch of IRC bots, and I've seen it done, but it's much more intensive (as said above you need to reg accounts, get auths, etc) and as such I've only seen it limited to like 200 views or so, maybe a few more. I'm actually rather certain that's the method that Tacos kid uses, though; his views include a lot of real accounts.

As a side note, the kid viewbotting tf2 streams lately always uses an account with a variation of the name furaffinity (no, I'm not kidding). So far I've seen 3 or 4 accounts of his and he's too retarded to use a different alias apparently. If you get botted, look for him, ban him, and report him; point out that it's another alt. I don't know if twitch will IP ban anyone but I did say that it was his 4th account last time I reported him.
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Potatovhttp://i.imgur.com/68yWlOE.jpg

that's just regular squid :)

[quote=Potatov][img]http://i.imgur.com/68yWlOE.jpg[/img]
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that's just regular squid :)
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#20
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We can pretend it's a full blown esport for 5 minutes, so that's cool I guess.

We can pretend it's a full blown esport for 5 minutes, so that's cool I guess.
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Wagamama (popular dota 2 streamer) got viewbotted today and reached something like 200k viewers, so it's not just us

Wagamama (popular dota 2 streamer) got viewbotted today and reached something like 200k viewers, so it's not just us
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300k actually i think

300k actually i think
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Can someone explain the real reason to viewbot? Correct me if I am wrong, but for payment doesn't it have to be unique views? Is it just to get to the front page?

Can someone explain the real reason to viewbot? Correct me if I am wrong, but for payment doesn't it have to be unique views? Is it just to get to the front page?
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It can get people's streams banned from twitch I'm pretty sure.

It can get people's streams banned from twitch I'm pretty sure.
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FzeroCan someone explain the real reason to viewbot? Correct me if I am wrong, but for payment doesn't it have to be unique views? Is it just to get to the front page?

people do it just to troll or to get someone's stream shut down (twitch knows the difference between intentional and unintentional botting).

[quote=Fzero]Can someone explain the real reason to viewbot? Correct me if I am wrong, but for payment doesn't it have to be unique views? Is it just to get to the front page?[/quote]
people do it just to troll or to get someone's stream shut down (twitch knows the difference between intentional and unintentional botting).
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#26
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who was that guy who botted himself with like over 6000 bots or something

who was that guy who botted himself with like over 6000 bots or something
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if the stream doesn't get shut down, doesn't all it do is generate harmless publicity?

not very familiar with how twitch works w/ regards to this

if the stream doesn't get shut down, doesn't all it do is generate harmless publicity?

not very familiar with how twitch works w/ regards to this
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