This update just bums me out.
How to fix this game (from a valve employee perspective)
-Join a comp team
-Play comp
-Learn stuff about comp
-Fix matchmaking
Alternatively
-Get the people you asked to beta
-Ask them whats wrong
-Fix those things.
This update just bums me out.
How to fix this game (from a valve employee perspective)
-Join a comp team
-Play comp
-Learn stuff about comp
-Fix matchmaking
Alternatively
-Get the people you asked to beta
-Ask them whats wrong
-Fix those things.
I don't even play the game anymore and I'm disappointed. Ever update and ever community action(Global White List) is just plain depressing. This community has gotten so desperate for just about anything it's actually sad.
I don't even play the game anymore and I'm disappointed. Ever update and ever community action(Global White List) is just plain depressing. This community has gotten so desperate for just about anything it's actually sad.
Honestly, by now we should not be surprise Valve is not listening to the feedback we have given them. However, I have three separate theories why this is happening.
1) Valve see's how Match Making has flopped, and they are just trying to kill it. With the goal to return back to a "casual game." Honestly, Match Making is not a true representation of 6v6. This is the most likely theory imo.
2) Valve is killing the game on purpose, while secret beginning to work on TF3. This is a pipe dream and very very very unlikely to happen though.
3) Valve is trolling the competitive community, essentially tell us to shut the fuck up. Seeing as the casual TF2 players see the competitive players as the "neck-beards" of the community (again from the casual player's point of view, not mine).
Honestly, by now we should not be surprise Valve is not listening to the feedback we have given them. However, I have three separate theories why this is happening.
1) Valve see's how Match Making has flopped, and they are just trying to kill it. With the goal to return back to a "casual game." Honestly, Match Making is not a true representation of 6v6. This is the most likely theory imo.
2) Valve is killing the game on purpose, while secret beginning to work on TF3. This is a pipe dream and very very very unlikely to happen though.
3) Valve is trolling the competitive community, essentially tell us to shut the fuck up. Seeing as the casual TF2 players see the competitive players as the "neck-beards" of the community (again from the casual player's point of view, not mine).
5th-ElementHonestly, by now we should not be surprise Valve is not listening to the feedback we have given them. However, I have three separate theories why this is happening.
1) Valve see's how Match Making has flopped, and they are just trying to kill it. With the goal to return back to a "casual game." Honestly, Match Making is not a true representation of 6v6. This is the most likely theory imo.
2) Valve is killing the game on purpose, while secret beginning to work on TF3. This is a pipe dream and very very very unlikely to happen though.
3) Valve is trolling the competitive community, essentially tell us to shut the fuck up. Seeing as the casual TF2 players see the competitive players as the "neck-beards" of the community (again from the casual player's point of view, not mine).
All these theories are bad.
[quote=5th-Element]Honestly, by now we should not be surprise Valve is not listening to the feedback we have given them. However, I have three separate theories why this is happening.
1) Valve see's how Match Making has flopped, and they are just trying to kill it. With the goal to return back to a "casual game." Honestly, Match Making is not a true representation of 6v6. This is the most likely theory imo.
2) Valve is killing the game on purpose, while secret beginning to work on TF3. This is a pipe dream and very very very unlikely to happen though.
3) Valve is trolling the competitive community, essentially tell us to shut the fuck up. Seeing as the casual TF2 players see the competitive players as the "neck-beards" of the community (again from the casual player's point of view, not mine).[/quote]
All these theories are bad.
Avast5th-ElementHonestly, by now we should not be surprise Valve is not listening to the feedback we have given them. However, I have three separate theories why this is happening.
1) Valve see's how Match Making has flopped, and they are just trying to kill it. With the goal to return back to a "casual game." Honestly, Match Making is not a true representation of 6v6. This is the most likely theory imo.
2) Valve is killing the game on purpose, while secret beginning to work on TF3. This is a pipe dream and very very very unlikely to happen though.
3) Valve is trolling the competitive community, essentially tell us to shut the fuck up. Seeing as the casual TF2 players see the competitive players as the "neck-beards" of the community (again from the casual player's point of view, not mine).
All these theories are bad.
I completely agree with you, but given Valve bad decision making, I wouldn't be surprised.
[quote=Avast][quote=5th-Element]Honestly, by now we should not be surprise Valve is not listening to the feedback we have given them. However, I have three separate theories why this is happening.
1) Valve see's how Match Making has flopped, and they are just trying to kill it. With the goal to return back to a "casual game." Honestly, Match Making is not a true representation of 6v6. This is the most likely theory imo.
2) Valve is killing the game on purpose, while secret beginning to work on TF3. This is a pipe dream and very very very unlikely to happen though.
3) Valve is trolling the competitive community, essentially tell us to shut the fuck up. Seeing as the casual TF2 players see the competitive players as the "neck-beards" of the community (again from the casual player's point of view, not mine).[/quote]
All these theories are bad.[/quote]
I completely agree with you, but given Valve bad decision making, I wouldn't be surprised.
Hello valve if you would like to experiment with matchmaking could you experiment with a limit of 1 medic
Hello valve if you would like to experiment with matchmaking could you experiment with a limit of 1 medic
This is hilarious they actually had a brain to literally copy PREC to make their own demo support
But they didn't have a brain to literally copy everything from 6's - whitelist, class limits and a map pool
This is hilarious they actually had a brain to literally copy PREC to make their own demo support
But they didn't have a brain to literally copy everything from 6's - whitelist, class limits and a map pool
spammyhThis is hilarious they actually had a brain to literally copy PREC to make their own demo support
But they didn't have a brain to literally copy everything from 6's - whitelist, class limits and a map pool
Demo support is still worse than P-REC though...
[quote=spammyh]This is hilarious they actually had a brain to literally copy PREC to make their own demo support
But they didn't have a brain to literally copy everything from 6's - whitelist, class limits and a map pool[/quote]
Demo support is still worse than P-REC though...
The worst thing? Muselk was right
The worst thing? Muselk was right
GentlemanJonThe worst thing? Muselk was right
For all the wrong reasons, and only if the situation never changes- but yes
[quote=GentlemanJon]The worst thing? Muselk was right[/quote]
For all the wrong reasons, and only if the situation never changes- but yes
GentlemanJonThe worst thing? Muselk was right
I thought about this, but then I remembered his main points are completely different than the actual problems with Competitive Matchmaking.
[quote=GentlemanJon]The worst thing? Muselk was right[/quote]
I thought about this, but then I remembered his main points are completely different than the actual problems with Competitive Matchmaking.
http://imgur.com/gallery/CUxK3
:)
if you get your hopes up for any tf2 update then it is your own fault that you're upset
if you get your hopes up for any tf2 update then it is your own fault that you're upset
throneif you get your hopes up for any tf2 update then it is your own fault that you're upset
nobodys hopes were up and yet people still managed to get disappointed
[quote=throne]if you get your hopes up for any tf2 update then it is your own fault that you're upset[/quote]
nobodys hopes were up and yet people still managed to get disappointed
real photo of the current dev team
[img]https://feddybear.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/nms-dev-team.jpg?w=748[/img]
Sean MurrayI can now confirm that Team Fortress 2's new and improved matchmaking system will be launching by the end of the month, additionally we are doing a complete balance pass on every weapon in the game. You can expect to start seeing some major changes very soon!
[quote=Sean Murray]I can now confirm that Team Fortress 2's new and improved matchmaking system will be launching by the end of the month, additionally we are doing a complete balance pass on every weapon in the game. You can expect to start seeing some major changes very soon![/quote]
Seriously though, what can we do as a community? Why can't b4nny and other people get Valve to think more, communicate more, implement good changes, etc? Why are Valve so stubborn? Why can't they recognize MM was a failure, and recognize their mistakes in general? This time they managed to get both of the casual and competitive communities angry.
Seriously though, what can we do as a community? Why can't b4nny and other people get Valve to think more, communicate more, implement good changes, etc? Why are Valve so stubborn? Why can't they recognize MM was a failure, and recognize their mistakes in general? This time they managed to get both of the casual and competitive communities angry.
DatDrummerGuyThis time they managed to get both of the casual and competitive communities angry.
they've been doing that for a while now
[quote=DatDrummerGuy]This time they managed to get both of the casual and competitive communities angry.[/quote]
they've been doing that for a while now
Indeed, but now it's really critical. Now is the time to fix Comp MM. Otherwise if they keep making mind-boggling changes that no one asked for, if they keep ignoring years of feedback and testing, we're in deep shit, and MM will never succeed.
We need people to wake them up. I know a few people are in direct contact with them, so if they can act, it would be greatly appreciated.
Indeed, but now it's really critical. Now is the time to fix Comp MM. Otherwise if they keep making mind-boggling changes that no one asked for, if they keep ignoring years of feedback and testing, we're in deep shit, and MM will never succeed.
We need people to wake them up. I know a few people are in direct contact with them, so if they can act, it would be greatly appreciated.
DatDrummerGuyWhy can't b4nny and other people get Valve to think more, communicate more, implement good changes, etc?
Nobody has the balls to go to valve HQ and tell them to their faces that their game is dying and it's their fault. Which I can't say I blame them for, those would have to be some pretty big balls.
[quote=DatDrummerGuy]Why can't b4nny and other people get Valve to think more, communicate more, implement good changes, etc?[/quote]
Nobody has the balls to go to valve HQ and tell them to their faces that their game is dying and it's their fault. Which I can't say I blame them for, those would have to be some pretty big balls.
AdnurakDatDrummerGuyWhy can't b4nny and other people get Valve to think more, communicate more, implement good changes, etc?
Nobody has the balls to go to valve HQ and tell them to their faces that their game is dying and it's their fault. Which I can't say I blame them for, those would have to be some pretty big balls.
They're well aware of it, they just don't care. They do read the forums and keep updated with streamers/high ranking posters. It's just that they don't have the ambition to take it into account. They probably don't want to isolate the comp or pub crowd out of updates. In an effort to please everyone, they've ironically let everyone down. Even pub-only players are unsatisfied with matchmaking, and because of their busted contract system they're angry with valve over halloween too. Valve's losing player support by the second, all we can do is see how many weeks it takes for them to change, or for them to lose..
[quote=Adnurak][quote=DatDrummerGuy]Why can't b4nny and other people get Valve to think more, communicate more, implement good changes, etc?[/quote]
Nobody has the balls to go to valve HQ and tell them to their faces that their game is dying and it's their fault. Which I can't say I blame them for, those would have to be some pretty big balls.[/quote]
They're well aware of it, they just don't care. They do read the forums and keep updated with streamers/high ranking posters. It's just that they don't have the ambition to take it into account. They probably don't want to isolate the comp or pub crowd out of updates. In an effort to please everyone, they've ironically let everyone down. Even pub-only players are unsatisfied with matchmaking, and because of their busted contract system they're angry with valve over halloween too. Valve's losing player support by the second, all we can do is see how many weeks it takes for them to change, or for them to lose..
AdnurakDatDrummerGuyWhy can't b4nny and other people get Valve to think more, communicate more, implement good changes, etc?
Nobody has the balls to go to valve HQ and tell them to their faces that their game is dying and it's their fault. Which I can't say I blame them for, those would have to be some pretty big balls.
They already know that. What we need to do is get them in the good direction and get them to do what's good for the game and competitive matchmaking, because they're apparently fucking retarded. Even sigsegv does a better job with this game than the guys who are paid for it.
[quote=Adnurak][quote=DatDrummerGuy]Why can't b4nny and other people get Valve to think more, communicate more, implement good changes, etc?[/quote]
Nobody has the balls to go to valve HQ and tell them to their faces that their game is dying and it's their fault. Which I can't say I blame them for, those would have to be some pretty big balls.[/quote]
They already know that. What we need to do is get them in the good direction and get them to do what's good for the game and competitive matchmaking, because they're apparently fucking retarded. Even sigsegv does a better job with this game than the guys who are paid for it.
my game stutters like crazy since the update. goes absolutely bonkers whenever i die too.
help this is actually really fucking annoying
EDIT: after updating my drivers and restarting my computer, it stopped stuttering. probably should've been the first thing i did.
[s]my game stutters like crazy since the update. goes absolutely bonkers whenever i die too.
help this is actually really fucking annoying
[/s]
EDIT: after updating my drivers and restarting my computer, it stopped stuttering. probably should've been the first thing i did.
AdnurakSean MurrayI can now confirm that Team Fortress 2's new and improved matchmaking system will be launching by the end of the month, additionally we are doing a complete balance pass on every weapon in the game. You can expect to start seeing some major changes very soon!
I hope you can all deal with the beast you just woke from its slumber. Valve is killing TF2 with their good intentions.
Here's a quick excerpt from the October 31st patch notes:
Valve- Gunboats
- Lowered rocket jump damage reduction to -20%
- Added -40% fall damage
[quote=Adnurak][quote=Sean Murray]I can now confirm that Team Fortress 2's new and improved matchmaking system will be launching by the end of the month, additionally we are doing [b]a complete balance pass on every weapon in the game[/b]. You can expect to start seeing some major changes very soon![/quote][/quote]
I hope you can all deal with the beast you just woke from its slumber. Valve is killing TF2 with their good intentions.
Here's a quick excerpt from the October 31st patch notes:
[quote=Valve]
- Gunboats
- Lowered rocket jump damage reduction to -20%
- Added -40% fall damage
[/quote]
anyone else not receive any contracts yet?
anyone else not receive any contracts yet?
Honestly I have zero confidence Valve can pull this off without VERY IN DEPTH help but they keep insisting on taking it into their own hands. If they don't eventually say "Okay we don't know what we're doing; can b4nny/SLIN/enigma/seagull/fucking whoever else help us" this game is going to get nowhere fast.
Honestly I have zero confidence Valve can pull this off without VERY IN DEPTH help but they keep insisting on taking it into their own hands. If they don't eventually say "Okay we don't know what we're doing; can b4nny/SLIN/enigma/seagull/fucking whoever else help us" this game is going to get nowhere fast.
ok valve you can say 'april fools' already and make actual updates now. u really got us with this one
ok valve you can say 'april fools' already and make actual updates now. u really got us with this one
[img]http://i.imgur.com/bKdQqmW.png[/img]
the only reason why i wanted to play this new update is to do the contracts and they dont even work lmao gj
the only reason why i wanted to play this new update is to do the contracts and they dont even work lmao gj
Valve- Gunboats
- Lowered rocket jump damage reduction to -20%
- Added -40% fall damage
http://i.imgur.com/y3sfoRk.jpg
NOBODY asked for this.
[quote=Valve]
- Gunboats
- Lowered rocket jump damage reduction to -20%
- Added -40% fall damage
[/quote]
http://i.imgur.com/y3sfoRk.jpg
NOBODY asked for this.