I think its possible to maybe have a good attack defend map if its linear. the stupid gpit-style AD where you instantly have to give up a point or split your team and lose both is tragic though

logjam and bagle are prefect:D

Cactus canyon

just break that rock you could go under again and its perfect

bagel and cactus canyon both deserve life :(((

They'd need to add the second stage back into the map too.

ram jam

coalplant

Tbh it was so shit in terms of balance, but man it it one of the most fun maps ive ever played in TF2

Balloon Race

I wish there was a better developer for freight, i thought the map could have ended up pretty interesting and unique for the map pool. obviously huge love for yukon i think the map would be fun to have back in rotation, also mainline was played in 1 season of ESEA and had potential.

if people genuinely have interest in this I could try and get the map decompiles and see if we can make some changes to the classics for testing.

sigh

https://tf2maps.net/threads/valve-maps-decompiled.5952/ theyre all here

or use VMEX/BSPSource

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/BSPSource

SNOWY OBSCURE

I'd wish that at least Valve would be able to make general improvements to Gullywash to fix out the issues the map has had for years now and either make some hiding spots people have figured out more blatant or remove them, whichever they would see better fit to do. Of course I would expect that it's not something they could be able to do without the permission of the original map maker, but it's just a wish of mine since it is my favourite map of the whole game.

However I would also hate for anyone to even make a "pro version" of Gullywash because not only would everybody in TF2 be unable to come to any agreement on what should be fixed and what shouldn't, but also it would make us depend on yet another map on our own life support for few small improvements which we can live without as well. If we ever would come to a spot where we'd need to make a new pro version of a map then we're just better off getting an entirely new, polished map instead that could still have a future ahead instead of a fond past.

every map that has stairs that dont splash

Reckoner

Isla had some decent ideas like the ramps on each side I wish the mapper would have expanded upon

All I want is a compromise version of reckoner rc2a and rc4. No dropdown, no new flank, and point on bridge. :heart_eyes:

I once considered going through gullywash and literally only fixing splash bugs, clipping and make some props unsolid but honestly its just not fun to do.

And since gullywash is actually is made by Arnold (I know he made it) valve won't fix minor things like dat.

Arnold -> gullywash, croissant, bazillion
Scorpio -> process, metalworks, standin

But yes, Valve historically does not fix maps if they are not broken, even more so with community maps. However, the original creators are free to be as proactive as they want and submit any changes. (they'd be included in some future patch when it's convenient to Valve, unless it's urgent).

whoops. dont u dare misquote me like that!!!!!

Reckoner for comp, Cactus Canyon and Asteroid for casual. I "wasted" so much time on those maps in pubs, they were really fun imo.

cactus canyon and asteroid for SURE

i miss playing them

anyone know a map archive with all the old maps from comp tf2? fakkelbrigade/serveme are slowly deleting many of the old maps, i could only find beta process by luck on a 90's looking website

cp_quay

cp_sunshine, please remove the sun, its very annoying to be blinded when denying soldiers

cp_moonshine then ? hehe

Comp.tf has most of the maps that have been played on comp on their respective pages.