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#1
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Hello.

A couple of weeks ago I had the idea to record information about mouse settings for all of the top players in European and American TF2. I'm not terribly interesting in imitating the sensitivity of players, but I just remember reading an article about different pros' settings on ESReality and thinking it was interesting and that someone should try to gather similar information for TF2.

Unfortunately, what with teams being slow to get back to me and being busy myself with other things I never got around to writing an article. However, I'm going to now make public the raw data recorded, so people can check it out themselves and draw any interesting inferences if they wish.

Here it is -- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoXEN9ZAogzVdG9lODVQaHFSVEl6ZS1XN091a0lMR2c

Note:
Players change sensitivities and so on all the time. This is meant as more of a snapshot than a definitive answer to "hey cookye what sens do you use". Additionally, many of the settings for American players were taken from their twitch.tv channel info panes. Thanks for supplying this information so readily! You can also publish your equipment info in your TFTV profile.

Cheers.

PS. If any players felt there was an expectation of privacy of their settings which I'm somehow violating, lmk and I can take you off.

PPS. This is your "PREM - by CUBE" daily dose reminder.
Hello.

A couple of weeks ago I had the idea to record information about mouse settings for all of the top players in European and American TF2. I'm not terribly interesting in imitating the sensitivity of players, but I just remember reading an article about different pros' settings on [url=http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1907380]ESReality[/url] and thinking it was interesting and that someone should try to gather similar information for TF2.

Unfortunately, what with teams being slow to get back to me and being busy myself with other things I never got around to writing an article. However, I'm going to now make public the raw data recorded, so people can check it out themselves and draw any interesting inferences if they wish.

[b]Here it is -- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoXEN9ZAogzVdG9lODVQaHFSVEl6ZS1XN091a0lMR2c

[i]Note:[/b] [/i]Players change sensitivities and so on all the time. This is meant as more of a snapshot than a definitive answer to "hey cookye what sens do you use". Additionally, many of the settings for American players were taken from their twitch.tv channel info panes. Thanks for supplying this information so readily! You can also publish your equipment info in your [url=http://teamfortress.tv/profile/edit]TFTV profile[/url].

Cheers.

[i]PS. If any players felt there was an expectation of privacy of their settings which I'm somehow violating, lmk and I can take you off.

PPS. This is your [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jamuLPfQibU]"PREM - by CUBE" daily dose[/url] reminder.[/i]
#2 3 4 2 Frags
This is legit.

Nice work dude.
This is legit.

Nice work dude.
#3 8 9 7 Frags
2/3 of mix^ uses the Logitech G400.

Now I need it :(
2/3 of mix^ uses the Logitech G400.

Now I need it :(
#4 8 9 7 Frags
wltrs jesus
wltrs jesus
#5 0 1 –1 Frags
Are you sure your data is valid? Because think clockwork and enigma are using the WMO.
Are you sure your data is valid? Because think clockwork and enigma are using the WMO.
#6 3 4 2 Frags
Are you sure your data is valid? Because think clockwork and enigma are using the WMO.
enigma changed, idk about clckrwrk - br0 weren't very responsive, just going on what I saw him using at i46.
[quote=cinq]Are you sure your data is valid? Because think clockwork and enigma are using the WMO.[/quote]
enigma changed, idk about clckrwrk - br0 weren't very responsive, just going on what I saw him using at i46.
#7 1 2 0 Frags
Good to know, thanks!
Good to know, thanks!
#8 3 4 2 Frags
enigma might well have changed back to the WMO since when I asked him, but this is only meant as a snapshot after all. If I were to actually keep these up to date it would be a full time job :p

Also, I tried to bother as few people as possible while doing this since I know questions about sensitivity are probably a source of irritation for a lot of top level players. So if there was information published in a thread somewhere from a while back I just went with that rather than hassling them. This means it's meant to be less "they're all using these settings right now and more like "they once used these settings" or something along those lines.
enigma might well have changed back to the WMO since when I asked him, but this is only meant as a snapshot after all. If I were to actually keep these up to date it would be a full time job :p

Also, I tried to bother as few people as possible while doing this since I know questions about sensitivity are probably a source of irritation for a lot of top level players. So if there was information published in a thread somewhere from a while back I just went with that rather than hassling them. This means it's meant to be less "they're all using these settings [i]right now[/i] and more like "they once used these settings" or something along those lines.
#9 16 17 15 Frags
Really stupid statistics time, yay!

Overall (in/360)
Avg = 9.8571428571
Std = 6.240647727
Min = 1.818
Max = 35.511

Scouts
Avg = 15.0093333333
Std = 7.5183425113
Min = 5.682
Max = 35.511

Soldiers
Avg = 7.66025
Std = 3.5195940686
Min = 1.818
Max = 13.636

Demomen
Avg = 7.6036
Std = 4.4032866311
Min = 2.406
Max = 15.734

Medics
Avg = 6.573875
Std = 2.9241496169
Min = 2.886
Max = 10.12

Take from this what you will, small sample size but maybe a decent starting recommendation when picking a new sens.
Really stupid statistics time, yay!

Overall (in/360)
Avg = 9.8571428571
Std = 6.240647727
Min = 1.818
Max = 35.511

Scouts
Avg = 15.0093333333
Std = 7.5183425113
Min = 5.682
Max = 35.511

Soldiers
Avg = 7.66025
Std = 3.5195940686
Min = 1.818
Max = 13.636

Demomen
Avg = 7.6036
Std = 4.4032866311
Min = 2.406
Max = 15.734

Medics
Avg = 6.573875
Std = 2.9241496169
Min = 2.886
Max = 10.12


Take from this what you will, small sample size but maybe a decent starting recommendation when picking a new sens.
#10 0 1 –1 Frags
what did you use to calculate these?
what did you use to calculate these?
#11 1 2 0 Frags
Look at thos STDS for Overall and Scouts, nothing can be inferred there. But for Soldiers and Medics I think this data is pretty helpful
Look at thos STDS for Overall and Scouts, nothing can be inferred there. But for Soldiers and Medics I think this data is pretty helpful
#12 0 1 –1 Frags
jesus blaze, m_customaccel_exponent of 1.2. I use 1.01955 and it's pretty fast.
jesus blaze, m_customaccel_exponent of 1.2. I use 1.01955 and it's pretty fast.
#13 5 6 4 Frags
with this information I will soon master the team fortress 2, keep an eye out
with this information I will soon master the team fortress 2, keep an eye out
#14 5 6 4 Frags
what did you use to calculate these?

in/360 = (360/(0.022*dpi*sens))

assuming m_yaw of 0.022 unless told otherwise (don't think I ever was)

Look at thos STDS for Overall and Scouts, nothing can be inferred there. But for Soldiers and Medics I think this data is pretty helpful

On the contrary, it shows that Scout can be played at a high level with both high and low sensitivity.
[quote=clorg]what did you use to calculate these?[/quote]

in/360 = (360/(0.022*dpi*sens))

assuming m_yaw of 0.022 unless told otherwise (don't think I ever was)

[quote=alfunkso]Look at thos STDS for Overall and Scouts, [b]nothing can be inferred there[/b]. But for Soldiers and Medics I think this data is pretty helpful[/quote]

On the contrary, it shows that Scout can be played at a high level with both high and low sensitivity.
#15 0 1 –1 Frags
including the sensitivity numbers for people who use mouse accel is pretty useless in the stats. like blaze's "13" inch 360 which in reality plays nothing like 13 inches.
including the sensitivity numbers for people who use mouse accel is pretty useless in the stats. like blaze's "13" inch 360 which in reality plays nothing like 13 inches.
#16 8 9 7 Frags
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#17 –1 0 –2 Frags
I wont be happy til I see SonofmyChest
I wont be happy til I see SonofmyChest
#18 0 1 –1 Frags
Well, apparently my sens is wayyy higher than I thought (1.1).
Well, apparently my sens is wayyy higher than I thought (1.1).
#19 5 6 4 Frags
Not that it even matters but my mouse is actually steelseries sensei and ingame sens is 1.2, So around ~10 inch 360. I dunno how mx518 got there, havent used it in like 3 years
Not that it even matters but my mouse is actually steelseries sensei and ingame sens is 1.2, So around ~10 inch 360. I dunno how mx518 got there, havent used it in like 3 years
#20 11 12 10 Frags
dflame this is the perfect thread for you
dflame this is the perfect thread for you
#21 11 12 10 Frags
35.5 inches per 360..
35.5 inches per 360..
#22 23 24 22 Frags
before u just put everyone's sens out, u should rank the players best to worst so I know which 1 to use
before u just put everyone's sens out, u should rank the players best to worst so I know which 1 to use
#23 2 3 1 Frags
freeze the first row in that Doc (view -> freeze row) so the column headers are always there when you scroll down
freeze the first row in that Doc (view -> freeze row) so the column headers are always there when you scroll down
#24 0 1 –1 Frags
including the sensitivity numbers for people who use mouse accel is pretty useless in the stats. like blaze's "13" inch 360 which in reality plays nothing like 13 inches.
you're misreading boomer's sens as blaze's m8
[quote=breloom]including the sensitivity numbers for people who use mouse accel is pretty useless in the stats. like blaze's "13" inch 360 which in reality plays nothing like 13 inches.[/quote]
you're misreading boomer's sens as blaze's m8
#25 2 3 1 Frags
Time to watch Army of Wltrs again and imagine how much he flailed his arm around.
Time to watch Army of Wltrs again and imagine how much he flailed his arm around.
#26 6 7 5 Frags
one can only measure the probability of what mouse enigma is using at any given time
one can only measure the probability of what mouse enigma is using at any given time
#27 0 1 –1 Frags
Darn 1.8in/360
Darn 1.8in/360
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