TF2 benchmarks 160
posted about a year ago December 31, 1969 at 7:00 PM EST by meb in General Discussion
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#1
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This process takes a maximum of five minutes and is helpful information to everyone TF2 from potential streamers to people trying to make decisions about new hardware to buy. For example, by benchmarking this morning I learned that disabling shadows raises my average FPS by almost 30 (useful for offsetting the FPS penalty that is caused by live streaming).

Please offer more details than what I have listed in my example below if you find something substantial. For example, if tweaking a driver setting gives you a large gain in average FPS, document it in your results.

Instructions:

1) Get benchmark demo https://mega.co.nz/#!a0JDlBRR!VYY-9Umsg67xMqwB_e9MRALrlvZpp5E37o9xPKReI08

2) Extract benchmark1.dem to your tf2 folder like any other demo

3) Make sure no resource heavy processes are running

4) Open TF2 and run the benchmark from console:

timedemo benchmark1

5) Copy the result from console

6) Post your result to this thread following my example below:

2639 frames 15.886 seconds 166.12 fps ( 6.02 ms/f) 7.576 fps variability

CPU and overclock: 2500K @ 4.6 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 650 Ti

Driver version: 314.07
dxlevel (default is 90): 95
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled

Additional notes: n/a

This process takes a maximum of five minutes and is helpful information to everyone TF2 from potential streamers to people trying to make decisions about new hardware to buy. For example, by benchmarking this morning I learned that disabling shadows raises my average FPS by almost 30 (useful for offsetting the FPS penalty that is caused by live streaming).

Please offer more details than what I have listed in my example below if you find something substantial. For example, if tweaking a driver setting gives you a large gain in average FPS, document it in your results.

Instructions:

1) Get benchmark demo https://mega.co.nz/#!a0JDlBRR!VYY-9Umsg67xMqwB_e9MRALrlvZpp5E37o9xPKReI08

2) Extract benchmark1.dem to your tf2 folder like any other demo

3) Make sure no resource heavy processes are running

4) Open TF2 and run the benchmark from console: [code]timedemo benchmark1[/code]

5) Copy the result from console

6) Post your result to this thread following my example below:

[code]2639 frames 15.886 seconds 166.12 fps ( 6.02 ms/f) 7.576 fps variability[/code]

CPU and overclock: 2500K @ 4.6 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 650 Ti

Driver version: 314.07
dxlevel (default is 90): 95
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled

Additional notes: n/a
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#2
14 Frags +

what

i'm confused - http://i.imgur.com/Dg4oMA2.jpg - there's not a #1

what

i'm confused - http://i.imgur.com/Dg4oMA2.jpg - there's not a #1
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#3
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Can you take timedemos of a smoothed demo?

Can you take timedemos of a smoothed demo?
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#4
9 Frags +
2639 frames 22.899 seconds 115.25 fps ( 8.68 ms/f) 5.982 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i7-920 @ 3.75 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 680

Driver version: 314.07
dxlevel: 90
Resolution: 1680x1050
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed (native res, noborder)
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

Additional notes: Two monitors. Aero disabled.

[code]2639 frames 22.899 seconds 115.25 fps ( 8.68 ms/f) 5.982 fps variability[/code]

CPU and overclock: i7-920 @ 3.75 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 680

Driver version: 314.07
dxlevel: 90
Resolution: 1680x1050
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed (native res, noborder)
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

Additional notes: Two monitors. Aero disabled.
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#5
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edit:

edit:
[img]http://teamfortress.tv/soundboard/dbzgifs/AnimatedAvatar42.gif[/img]
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#6
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the first post was accidentally nuked by someone (it might have been me when i clicked in here before, i don't think so though)

i fixed it

the first post was accidentally nuked by someone (it might have been me when i clicked in here before, i don't think so though)

i fixed it
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#7
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oh fuck dude that's my bad I accidentally clicked nuke ROFL

oh fuck dude that's my bad I accidentally clicked nuke ROFL
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#8
64 Frags +

lange_idiot

lange_idiot
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#9
78 Frags +

ive never used an pc before

ive never used an pc before
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#10
111 Frags +
Langeoh fuck dude that's my bad I accidentally clicked nuke ROFL

Thank god you're not in north korea

[quote=Lange]oh fuck dude that's my bad I accidentally clicked nuke ROFL[/quote]

Thank god you're not in north korea
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#11
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2639 frames 42.477 seconds 62.13 fps (16.10 ms/f) 4.374 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i5 M560 @ 2.67 GHz
Graphics Card: ATI FirePro M7820
Driver version: 13.1

dxlevel (default is 90): 81
Resolution: 1680x1050 native, 1280x800 in game
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris's DX8 maxframes config
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

[quote]2639 frames 42.477 seconds 62.13 fps (16.10 ms/f) 4.374 fps variability[/quote]

CPU and overclock: i5 M560 @ 2.67 GHz
Graphics Card: ATI FirePro M7820
Driver version: 13.1

dxlevel (default is 90): 81
Resolution: 1680x1050 native, 1280x800 in game
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris's DX8 maxframes config
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled
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#12
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2639 frames 27.869 seconds 94.69 fps (10.56 ms/f) 3.816 fps variability

CPU: i5 3570K @ 3.6hz
GPU: Msi R7850
Driver: 13.4

Dxlevel 91
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Fullscreen
FPS config: modified Chris' Dx9frames
Shadows: Enabled
multi threading: Enabled

Same ^ but with DX81

2639 frames 25.399 seconds 103.90 fps ( 9.62 ms/f) 4.166 fps variability


[code]2639 frames 27.869 seconds 94.69 fps (10.56 ms/f) 3.816 fps variability
[/code]

CPU: i5 3570K @ 3.6hz
GPU: Msi R7850
Driver: 13.4

Dxlevel 91
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Fullscreen
FPS config: modified Chris' Dx9frames
Shadows: Enabled
multi threading: Enabled


Same ^ but with DX81
[code]2639 frames 25.399 seconds 103.90 fps ( 9.62 ms/f) 4.166 fps variability[/code]
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#13
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2639 frames 27.650 seconds 95.44 fps (10.48 ms/f) 6.216 fps variability

CPU and overclock: [email protected] GHz
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD7850 2GB

dxlevel: 90
Resolution: 1600x900
Full-screen or windowed: Fullscreen Windowed (noborders)
FPS configs enabled: None
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled (high)

[code]2639 frames 27.650 seconds 95.44 fps (10.48 ms/f) 6.216 fps variability[/code]

CPU and overclock: [email protected] GHz
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD7850 2GB

dxlevel: 90
Resolution: 1600x900
Full-screen or windowed: Fullscreen Windowed (noborders)
FPS configs enabled: None
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled (high)
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#14
3 Frags +
2639 frames 37.243 seconds 70.86 fps (14.11 ms/f) 3.855 fps variability


Chris' maxFPS with ragdolls/gibs turned on, shadows ON dx9, windowed

2639 frames 36.265 seconds 72.77 fps (13.74 ms/f) 5.495 fps variability


MaxFPS with ragdolls/gibs ON, shadows ON dx8, windowed

2639 frames 30.952 seconds 85.26 fps (11.73 ms/f) 5.505 fps variability


MaxFPS with ragdolls/gibs turned OFF, shadows ON dx8, windowed

2639 frames 31.050 seconds 84.99 fps (11.77 ms/f) 5.462 fps variability


MaxFPS with ragdolls/gibs turned OFF, shadows OFF dx8, windowed

AMD FX-4100, stock clock (4 cores, 3.8 GHz)
GTX 560 Ti
16 GB 1866 RAM
1680x1050

Though, my frames got really shitty recently, around a month ago I had a stable 132 even in pubs like this.

EDIT: Ran all tests again, this time with my CPU overclocked to 4.2GHz, got only around 15 more fps, does anyone know why my results are so shitty?

[code]2639 frames 37.243 seconds 70.86 fps (14.11 ms/f) 3.855 fps variability[/code]
Chris' maxFPS with ragdolls/gibs turned on, shadows ON dx9, windowed

[code]2639 frames 36.265 seconds 72.77 fps (13.74 ms/f) 5.495 fps variability[/code]
MaxFPS with ragdolls/gibs ON, shadows ON dx8, windowed

[code]2639 frames 30.952 seconds 85.26 fps (11.73 ms/f) 5.505 fps variability[/code]
MaxFPS with ragdolls/gibs turned OFF, shadows ON dx8, windowed

[code]2639 frames 31.050 seconds 84.99 fps (11.77 ms/f) 5.462 fps variability[/code]
MaxFPS with ragdolls/gibs turned OFF, shadows OFF dx8, windowed





AMD FX-4100, stock clock (4 cores, 3.8 GHz)
GTX 560 Ti
16 GB 1866 RAM
1680x1050


Though, my frames got really shitty recently, around a month ago I had a stable 132 even in pubs like this.

EDIT: Ran all tests again, this time with my CPU overclocked to 4.2GHz, got only around 15 more fps, does anyone know why my results are so shitty?
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#15
1 Frags +

2639 frames 31.960 seconds 82.57 fps (12.11 ms/f) 4.625 fps variability

Quad Core 8300, 2.5 GHz
AMD Radeon 7750 HD
4 GB of RAM

I use Chris's Maxfps config, dxlevel 81
Resolution of 1280x720 fullscreen
Shadows disabled

2639 frames 31.960 seconds 82.57 fps (12.11 ms/f) 4.625 fps variability

Quad Core 8300, 2.5 GHz
AMD Radeon 7750 HD
4 GB of RAM

I use Chris's Maxfps config, dxlevel 81
Resolution of 1280x720 fullscreen
Shadows disabled
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#16
2 Frags +
2639 frames 27.226 seconds 96.93 fps (10.32 ms/f) 4.619 fps variability

CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955 @ 3.7GHz
GPU: AMD HD 6850

dxlevel 90
1920x1080
windowed noborder
Chris dx9frames, enabled shadows, disabled facial features, disabled ragdolls

[code]2639 frames 27.226 seconds 96.93 fps (10.32 ms/f) 4.619 fps variability[/code]

CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955 @ 3.7GHz
GPU: AMD HD 6850

dxlevel 90
1920x1080
windowed noborder
Chris dx9frames, enabled shadows, disabled facial features, disabled ragdolls
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#17
2 Frags +

2639 frames 27.369 seconds 96.42 fps (10.37 ms/f) 4.916 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i5 3570 @ 3.4 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 660

Driver version: 306.97
dxlevel : 81
Resolution: 1024x768
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx8 max frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled

2639 frames 27.369 seconds 96.42 fps (10.37 ms/f) 4.916 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i5 3570 @ 3.4 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 660

Driver version: 306.97
dxlevel : 81
Resolution: 1024x768
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx8 max frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled
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#18
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2639 frames 23.791 seconds 110.93 fps ( 9.02 ms/f) 7.457 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i5 3500k @ 3.6
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 560ti

Driver version: 304.79
dxlevel : 81
Resolution: 1680x1050
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx8 highframes
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

if I add -heapsize 4096 to launch options

2639 frames 22.431 seconds 117.65 fps ( 8.50 ms/f) 5.084 fps variability

not coinicidence

2639 frames 23.791 seconds 110.93 fps ( 9.02 ms/f) 7.457 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i5 3500k @ 3.6
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 560ti

Driver version: 304.79
dxlevel : 81
Resolution: 1680x1050
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx8 highframes
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled


if I add -heapsize 4096 to launch options

2639 frames 22.431 seconds 117.65 fps ( 8.50 ms/f) 5.084 fps variability

[img]http://i.imgur.com/TYZNouD.png[/img]

not coinicidence
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#19
2 Frags +
2639 frames 27.392 seconds 96.34 fps (10.38 ms/f) 6.245 fps variability

CPU: FX4100 @ 3.6GHz
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD6850 2GB

dxlevel: 81
resolution: 1366x768 (I need a new monitor)
full-screen or windowed: Borderless Windowed
FPS configs enabled: maxframes
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled

[code]2639 frames 27.392 seconds 96.34 fps (10.38 ms/f) 6.245 fps variability
[/code]

CPU: FX4100 @ 3.6GHz
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD6850 2GB

dxlevel: 81
resolution: 1366x768 (I need a new monitor)
full-screen or windowed: Borderless Windowed
FPS configs enabled: maxframes
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled
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#20
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2639 frames 29.308 seconds 90.04 fps (11.11 ms/f) 4.889 fps variability

CPU: i5 3570 @ 3.40hz stock speed
GPU: gt 240

driver version: 314.22
dxlevel 81
only the multithread part of Chris' fps config in my autoexec
res 1920x1080
fullscreen
Model/Textures: high/very high
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

2639 frames 29.308 seconds 90.04 fps (11.11 ms/f) 4.889 fps variability

CPU: i5 3570 @ 3.40hz stock speed
GPU: gt 240

driver version: 314.22
dxlevel 81
only the multithread part of Chris' fps config in my autoexec
res 1920x1080
fullscreen
Model/Textures: high/very high
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled
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#21
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2chttp://i.imgur.com/TYZNouD.png

not coinicidence

Variability does NOT mean standard deviation.

[quote=2c][img]http://i.imgur.com/TYZNouD.png[/img]

not coinicidence[/quote]

Variability does NOT mean standard deviation.
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#22
1 Frags +

CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 965 OC 3.9
GPU: AMD Radeon HD7970Gz 3GB
RAM: 16GB 1600
RES: 1920X1080 16:9
Windowed, noborder
Chris's dx9frames

2639 frames 38.110 seconds 69.25 fps (14.44 ms/f) 3.100 fps variability
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 965 OC 3.9
GPU: AMD Radeon HD7970Gz 3GB
RAM: 16GB 1600
RES: 1920X1080 16:9
Windowed, noborder
Chris's dx9frames

[code]2639 frames 38.110 seconds 69.25 fps (14.44 ms/f) 3.100 fps variability
[/code]
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#23
1 Frags +
2639 frames 18.074 seconds 146.01 fps ( 6.85 ms/f) 6.381 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i7 920 @ 3.5 GHz (Hyperthreading is off so it's just 4 cores)
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 460 stock

Driver version: 306.97 (any driver newer then this is broken in DX8)
dxlevel (default is 90): 81
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Modified Chris high frames. 4xMSAA, 8xAnisotropic, texture shader and model detail high.
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled

Additional notes: n/a

I'm building a new system soon and I'm disappointed with the scores that I see above. I was honestly expecting the ivy bridge chips to destroy this old system from 2008.

[code]2639 frames 18.074 seconds 146.01 fps ( 6.85 ms/f) 6.381 fps variability[/code]

CPU and overclock: i7 920 @ 3.5 GHz (Hyperthreading is off so it's just 4 cores)
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 460 stock

Driver version: 306.97 (any driver newer then this is broken in DX8)
dxlevel (default is 90): 81
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Modified Chris high frames. 4xMSAA, 8xAnisotropic, texture shader and model detail high.
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled

Additional notes: n/a

I'm building a new system soon and I'm disappointed with the scores that I see above. I was honestly expecting the ivy bridge chips to destroy this old system from 2008.
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#24
2 Frags +

2639 frames 17.340 seconds 152.19 fps ( 6.57 ms/f) 7.023 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i7-920 @ 3.57Ghz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 570

Driver version: 306.97
dxlevel: 81
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Fullscreen
FPS configs enabled: Modified Highframes
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled

Additional notes: Two monitors with aero disabled

I also tried dx9 and dx95 with same config except for mat_bumpmap 1.

DX9: 2639 frames 19.596 seconds 134.67 fps ( 7.43 ms/f) 8.989 fps variability
DX95: 2639 frames 19.236 seconds 137.19 fps ( 7.29 ms/f) 6.276 fps variability

2639 frames 17.340 seconds 152.19 fps ( 6.57 ms/f) 7.023 fps variability


CPU and overclock: i7-920 @ 3.57Ghz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 570

Driver version: 306.97
dxlevel: 81
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Fullscreen
FPS configs enabled: Modified Highframes
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled

Additional notes: Two monitors with aero disabled

I also tried dx9 and dx95 with same config except for mat_bumpmap 1.

DX9: 2639 frames 19.596 seconds 134.67 fps ( 7.43 ms/f) 8.989 fps variability
DX95: 2639 frames 19.236 seconds 137.19 fps ( 7.29 ms/f) 6.276 fps variability
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#25
3 Frags +
2639 frames 18.996 seconds 138.93 fps ( 7.20 ms/f) 8.024 fps variability

CPU: i7 3770K@ 4.43 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 670

Driver version: 306.97
dxlevel (default is 90): 81
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed
FPS configs enabled: chris highframes
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

Additional notes: enabled ragdolls and gibs/aero disabled

I'm quite disappointed actually... This rig should fuck tf2 :s

[code]2639 frames 18.996 seconds 138.93 fps ( 7.20 ms/f) 8.024 fps variability[/code]

CPU: i7 3770K@ 4.43 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 670

Driver version: 306.97
dxlevel (default is 90): 81
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed
FPS configs enabled: chris highframes
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

Additional notes: enabled ragdolls and gibs/aero disabled

I'm quite disappointed actually... This rig should fuck tf2 :s
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#26
1 Frags +
2639 frames 23.469 seconds 112.45 fps ( 8.89 ms/f) 4.687 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i5 3570K @ 3.4 GHz (default)
Graphics Card: HD6870 1GB
RAM: 8GB 1333

Driver version: 13.1
dxlevel: 90
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: windowed, noborder
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows: enabled

[code]2639 frames 23.469 seconds 112.45 fps ( 8.89 ms/f) 4.687 fps variability
[/code]

CPU and overclock: i5 3570K @ 3.4 GHz (default)
Graphics Card: HD6870 1GB
RAM: 8GB 1333

Driver version: 13.1
dxlevel: 90
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: windowed, noborder
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows: enabled
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#27
2 Frags +
RawrSpoon2chttp://i.imgur.com/TYZNouD.png

not coinicidence

Variability does NOT mean standard deviation.

i haven't taken stat in five or so years, I think it is s.d. squared then? which would just make the disparity larger.

[quote=RawrSpoon][quote=2c][img]http://i.imgur.com/TYZNouD.png[/img]

not coinicidence[/quote]

Variability does NOT mean standard deviation.[/quote]


i haven't taken stat in five or so years, I think it is s.d. squared then? which would just make the disparity larger.
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#28
i52
2 Frags +
2639 frames 35.798 seconds 73.72 fps (13.56 ms/f) 2.738 fps variability

CPU and overclock: Phenom II x4 940 @ 3.2 GHz (default)
Graphics Card: HD6670 1GB
RAM: 4GB DDR2 800

Driver version: 13.1
dxlevel: 81
Resolution: 1440x900
Full-screen or windowed: Fullscreen
FPS configs enabled: Chris MaxFrames (with texture and light filtering turned on)
Shadows: enabled

aero disabled as well

I ran this test twice got mostly the same results, but the 2nd time I ran another FPS benchmark and got the roughly the same average, but my minimum was like 46fps and max was about 89fps.

-edit- all bellow will have the same setting originally states with only minor differences

same setting shadows turned off

2639 frames 30.000 seconds 87.97 fps (11.37 ms/f) 3.595 fps variability

same settings as Original but with light and texture filters off

2639 frames 34.305 seconds 76.93 fps (13.00 ms/f) 3.692 fps variability

same settings as Original except with mat_trilinear 0

2639 frames 33.573 seconds 78.60 fps (12.72 ms/f) 2.574 fps variability


(oddly enough I also tried texture/light filters off + this and noticed that leaving the filter on and this off gives you more FPS)

ragdolls on

2639 frames 36.929 seconds 71.46 fps (13.99 ms/f) 2.133 fps variability

mat_specular 1

2639 frames 33.963 seconds 77.70 fps (12.87 ms/f) 2.576 fps variability


weird I didn't think this would help fps...

mat_specular 1, mat_trilinear 0, shadows off

2639 frames 28.449 seconds 92.76 fps (10.78 ms/f) 3.515 fps variability

I would like to thank the OP for making this otherwise I wouldn't be able to get a decent minimum fps, and I hope some of my results help people find out what settings they want to use.

oh and I've been wondering for awhile if the file found in this thread http://ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=39676 (it removes the bullet impact debris) increases FPS or not

2639 frames 27.844 seconds 94.78 fps (10.55 ms/f) 3.452 fps variability

(this is with the last settings I used)

[code]2639 frames 35.798 seconds 73.72 fps (13.56 ms/f) 2.738 fps variability[/code]

CPU and overclock: Phenom II x4 940 @ 3.2 GHz (default)
Graphics Card: HD6670 1GB
RAM: 4GB DDR2 800

Driver version: 13.1
dxlevel: 81
Resolution: 1440x900
Full-screen or windowed: Fullscreen
FPS configs enabled: Chris MaxFrames (with texture and light filtering turned on)
Shadows: enabled

aero disabled as well

I ran this test twice got mostly the same results, but the 2nd time I ran another FPS benchmark and got the roughly the same average, but my minimum was like 46fps and max was about 89fps.

-edit- all bellow will have the same setting originally states with only minor differences

same setting shadows turned off
[code]2639 frames 30.000 seconds 87.97 fps (11.37 ms/f) 3.595 fps variability[/code]

same settings as Original but with light and texture filters off
[code]2639 frames 34.305 seconds 76.93 fps (13.00 ms/f) 3.692 fps variability[/code]

same settings as Original except with mat_trilinear 0
[code]2639 frames 33.573 seconds 78.60 fps (12.72 ms/f) 2.574 fps variability[/code]
(oddly enough I also tried texture/light filters off + this and noticed that leaving the filter on and this off gives you more FPS)

ragdolls on
[code]2639 frames 36.929 seconds 71.46 fps (13.99 ms/f) 2.133 fps variability
[/code]

mat_specular 1
[code]2639 frames 33.963 seconds 77.70 fps (12.87 ms/f) 2.576 fps variability
[/code]
weird I didn't think this would help fps...

mat_specular 1, mat_trilinear 0, shadows off
[code]2639 frames 28.449 seconds 92.76 fps (10.78 ms/f) 3.515 fps variability
[/code]

I would like to thank the OP for making this otherwise I wouldn't be able to get a decent minimum fps, and I hope some of my results help people find out what settings they want to use.

oh and I've been wondering for awhile if the file found in this thread http://ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=39676 (it removes the bullet impact debris) increases FPS or not
[code]2639 frames 27.844 seconds 94.78 fps (10.55 ms/f) 3.452 fps variability[/code] (this is with the last settings I used)
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#29
i52
0 Frags +
2639 frames 30.184 seconds 87.43 fps (11.44 ms/f) 3.084 fps variability

CPU and overclock: FX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz per core
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 680

Driver version: 314.22
dxlevel (default is 90): 95
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: Enabled

Additional notes: Ragdolls on, gibs off. I run two monitors, and am on Windows 8. I also have 8GB DDR3 1866 RAM.

Any reason why my results are so low? I feel like I'm doing something that I shouldn't be.

[code]2639 frames 30.184 seconds 87.43 fps (11.44 ms/f) 3.084 fps variability[/code]

CPU and overclock: FX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz per core
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 680

Driver version: 314.22
dxlevel (default is 90): 95
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: Enabled

Additional notes: Ragdolls on, gibs off. I run two monitors, and am on Windows 8. I also have 8GB DDR3 1866 RAM.

Any reason why my results are so low? I feel like I'm doing something that I shouldn't be.
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#30
i52
2 Frags +
rays2639 frames 30.184 seconds 87.43 fps (11.44 ms/f) 3.084 fps variability

Additional notes: Ragdolls on, gibs off. I run two monitors, and am on Windows 8. I also have 8GB DDR3 1866 RAM.

Any reason why my results are so low? I feel like I'm doing something that I shouldn't be.

Disconnect 1 of your monitors and see if that helps, could also disable some aero settings for when you play.

[quote=rays][code]2639 frames 30.184 seconds 87.43 fps (11.44 ms/f) 3.084 fps variability[/code]

Additional notes: Ragdolls on, gibs off. I run two monitors, and am on Windows 8. I also have 8GB DDR3 1866 RAM.

Any reason why my results are so low? I feel like I'm doing something that I shouldn't be.[/quote]

Disconnect 1 of your monitors and see if that helps, could also disable some aero settings for when you play.
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#31
1 Frags +

Before steampipe

2639 frames 22.431 seconds 117.65 fps ( 8.50 ms/f) 6.310 fps variability

CPU: i5-2500K @4.3GHz
GPU: MSi 660Ti Power Edition OC (Stock clocks)

Driver: 310.70
dxlevel: 9.0
Aero: enabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
NO fps config/ only no ragdolls or gibs
Shadows: high
Model: High
Texture: high
Shader: high
AA: none
Filtering: Trilinear

I run 2 monitors. I will run the same test after I upgrade to steampipe.

Before steampipe
[code]2639 frames 22.431 seconds 117.65 fps ( 8.50 ms/f) 6.310 fps variability
[/code]

CPU: i5-2500K @4.3GHz
GPU: MSi 660Ti Power Edition OC (Stock clocks)

Driver: 310.70
dxlevel: 9.0
Aero: enabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
NO fps config/ only no ragdolls or gibs
Shadows: high
Model: High
Texture: high
Shader: high
AA: none
Filtering: Trilinear

I run 2 monitors. I will run the same test after I upgrade to steampipe.
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#32
7 Frags +
rays
Any reason why my results are so low? I feel like I'm doing something that I shouldn't be.

TF2 only uses two cores.

AMD cores are slow.

Ragdolls enabled stresses the cpu.

These are the reasons.

[quote=rays]

Any reason why my results are so low? I feel like I'm doing something that I shouldn't be.[/quote]

TF2 only uses two cores.

AMD cores are slow.

Ragdolls enabled stresses the cpu.

These are the reasons.
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#33
1 Frags +

CPU is really important (TF2 likes high clock rates)

Chris's dx9 fps config also makes a huge difference for me. Here's my result with no config enabled.

2639 frames 24.273 seconds 108.72 fps ( 9.20 ms/f) 5.314 fps variability

CPU and overclock: 2500K @ 4.6 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 650 Ti

Driver version: 314.07
dxlevel (default is 90): 95
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: none (recommended video settings)
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

Additional notes: "let the 3d application decide" nvidia settings

35% increase in avg FPS thanks to chris's dx9 fps config.

CPU is really important (TF2 likes high clock rates)

Chris's dx9 fps config also makes a huge difference for me. Here's my result with no config enabled.

[code]2639 frames 24.273 seconds 108.72 fps ( 9.20 ms/f) 5.314 fps variability[/code]

CPU and overclock: 2500K @ 4.6 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 650 Ti

Driver version: 314.07
dxlevel (default is 90): 95
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: none (recommended video settings)
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

Additional notes: "let the 3d application decide" nvidia settings

35% increase in avg FPS thanks to chris's dx9 fps config.
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#34
0 Frags +

2639 frames 26.395 seconds 120.98 fps (10.00 ms/f) 4.636 fps variability

CPU: i5-2500K @4.2GHz
GPU: GTX 670 4GB
RAM: 8GBs DDR3

Dxlevel: 91
Aero: Enabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
Config: None, but ragdolls are off
Shadows: High
Model: High
Texture: Very High
Shader: High
AA: 16xQ CSAA
Filtering: 16x

2639 frames 26.395 seconds 120.98 fps (10.00 ms/f) 4.636 fps variability

CPU: i5-2500K @4.2GHz
GPU: GTX 670 4GB
RAM: 8GBs DDR3

Dxlevel: 91
Aero: Enabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
Config: None, but ragdolls are off
Shadows: High
Model: High
Texture: Very High
Shader: High
AA: 16xQ CSAA
Filtering: 16x
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#35
0 Frags +

2639 frames 23.746 seconds 111.14 fps ( 9.00 ms/f) 9.129 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i7 970 @ 4.1 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 460 x2

Driver version: 320.00
dxlevel (default is 90): 90
Resolution: 1920x1200
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

2639 frames 23.746 seconds [b]111.14 fps[/b] ( 9.00 ms/f) 9.129 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i7 970 @ 4.1 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 460 x2

Driver version: 320.00
dxlevel (default is 90): 90
Resolution: 1920x1200
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled
36
#36
i52
3 Frags +

also noticed that
cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 (it defaults to 0 for maxfps and highframes)

2639 frames 25.937 seconds 101.75 fps ( 9.83 ms/f) 3.899 fps variability

when it was

2639 frames 27.844 seconds 94.78 fps (10.55 ms/f) 3.452 fps variability

I will make more posts if I find anything else that increases FPS at least for myself

also noticed that
cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 (it defaults to 0 for maxfps and highframes)
[code]2639 frames 25.937 seconds 101.75 fps ( 9.83 ms/f) 3.899 fps variability
[/code]

when it was
[code]2639 frames 27.844 seconds 94.78 fps (10.55 ms/f) 3.452 fps variability[/code]

I will make more posts if I find anything else that increases FPS at least for myself
37
#37
0 Frags +

I have a bizarre issue where my results are dramatically different each time I run the benchmark, without changing any settings.

Below are two results, both taken within minutes of each other, and nothing was changed between them - i.e. nothing in my fps config changed, no more/less processes running.

Most of the time my results will be more lower than higher, but I can't seem to figure out what makes each result so different.

I think something is wrong with my cpu.

cpu: i7 2820QM @2.30 (I think it goes up to 3.14 though?)
graphics: AMD radeon HD 6750M

dxlevel 81
1600x900
full-screen
chris highframes
shadows enabled
two monitors, aero disabled

2639 frames 31.072 seconds 84.93 fps (11.77 ms/f) 8.020 fps variability2639 frames 23.376 seconds 112.89 fps ( 8.86 ms/f) 6.254 fps variability
I have a bizarre issue where my results are dramatically different each time I run the benchmark, without changing any settings.

Below are two results, both taken within minutes of each other, and nothing was changed between them - i.e. nothing in my fps config changed, no more/less processes running.

Most of the time my results will be more lower than higher, but I can't seem to figure out what makes each result so different.

I think something is wrong with my cpu.


cpu: i7 2820QM @2.30 (I think it goes up to 3.14 though?)
graphics: AMD radeon HD 6750M

dxlevel 81
1600x900
full-screen
chris highframes
shadows enabled
two monitors, aero disabled


[quote]2639 frames 31.072 seconds 84.93 fps (11.77 ms/f) 8.020 fps variability
[/quote]


[quote]2639 frames 23.376 seconds 112.89 fps ( 8.86 ms/f) 6.254 fps variability
[/quote]
38
#38
i52
1 Frags +
crespiI'm have a very strange issue. I loaded up the demo and let it play, everything in the game looked normal and my result came out to an average of 80fps.

Then I tried watching it again a few minutes later, without changing anything in my settings, no windows or heavy processes running, and the game looks like it's almost in slow-motion, and i'm getting no more than 30 fps average.

Can anyone guess what's going on?

you demo setting might've got mixed up, idk but if you have and binds that slow demos down you might've pressed it

[quote=crespi]I'm have a very strange issue. I loaded up the demo and let it play, everything in the game looked normal and my result came out to an average of 80fps.

Then I tried watching it again a few minutes later, without changing anything in my settings, no windows or heavy processes running, and the game looks like it's almost in slow-motion, and i'm getting no more than 30 fps average.

Can anyone guess what's going on?[/quote]

you demo setting might've got mixed up, idk but if you have and binds that slow demos down you might've pressed it
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#39
1 Frags +
Comanglia
you demo setting might've got mixed up, idk but if you have and binds that slow demos down you might've pressed it

Nope, I have no binds like that. Literally all I did was press the up arrow in console to re-input "timedemo benchmark1"

[quote=Comanglia]

you demo setting might've got mixed up, idk but if you have and binds that slow demos down you might've pressed it[/quote]

Nope, I have no binds like that. Literally all I did was press the up arrow in console to re-input "timedemo benchmark1"
40
#40
i52
2 Frags +
crespiComanglia
you demo setting might've got mixed up, idk but if you have and binds that slow demos down you might've pressed it

Nope, I have no binds like that. Literally all I did was press the up arrow in console to re-input "timedemo benchmark1"

perhaps you have a variable clock rate on your CPU, and it lowered the clock rate of everything including your demo... kinda like how people would Overclock CPUs in the past to gain speed hacks in older games.

[quote=crespi][quote=Comanglia]

you demo setting might've got mixed up, idk but if you have and binds that slow demos down you might've pressed it[/quote]

Nope, I have no binds like that. Literally all I did was press the up arrow in console to re-input "timedemo benchmark1"[/quote]

perhaps you have a variable clock rate on your CPU, and it lowered the clock rate of everything including your demo... kinda like how people would Overclock CPUs in the past to gain speed hacks in older games.
41
#41
i52
2 Frags +
2639 frames 15.885 seconds 166.13 fps ( 6.02 ms/f) 8.603 fps variability

Radeon HD 6950 2GB
i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (OC'd to 4.4Ghz)

Two monitors with aero disabled
Windowed noborder
Chris Highframes
1920x1080

[quote]2639 frames 15.885 seconds 166.13 fps ( 6.02 ms/f) 8.603 fps variability
[/quote]
Radeon HD 6950 2GB
i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (OC'd to 4.4Ghz)

Two monitors with aero disabled
Windowed noborder
Chris Highframes
1920x1080
42
#42
0 Frags +
Comangliaalso noticed that
cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 (it defaults to 0 for maxfps and highframes)2639 frames 25.937 seconds 101.75 fps ( 9.83 ms/f) 3.899 fps variability

when it was2639 frames 27.844 seconds 94.78 fps (10.55 ms/f) 3.452 fps variability

Agreed.
Mine was

2639 frames 18.996 seconds 138.93 fps ( 7.20 ms/f) 8.024 fps variability


with cl_threaded_bone_setup 0 and it's

2639 frames 17.401 seconds 151.66 fps ( 6.59 ms/f) 9.128 fps variability


with cl_threaded_bone_setup 1

cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 + no shadows

2639 frames 14.099 seconds 187.18 fps ( 5.34 ms/f) 10.567 fps variability

Edit: dx9 frames, dxlevel 95, nogibs, no shadows(still driver version 306.97)

2639 frames 16.696 seconds 158.07 fps ( 6.33 ms/f) 9.518 fps variability
[quote=Comanglia]also noticed that
cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 (it defaults to 0 for maxfps and highframes)
[code]2639 frames 25.937 seconds 101.75 fps ( 9.83 ms/f) 3.899 fps variability
[/code]
when it was
[code]2639 frames 27.844 seconds 94.78 fps (10.55 ms/f) 3.452 fps variability[/code]
[/quote]
Agreed.
Mine was
[code]2639 frames 18.996 seconds 138.93 fps ( 7.20 ms/f) 8.024 fps variability[/code]
with cl_threaded_bone_setup 0 and it's

[code]2639 frames 17.401 seconds 151.66 fps ( 6.59 ms/f) 9.128 fps variability[/code]
with cl_threaded_bone_setup 1

cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 + no shadows
[code]2639 frames 14.099 seconds 187.18 fps ( 5.34 ms/f) 10.567 fps variability[/code]

Edit: dx9 frames, dxlevel 95, nogibs, no shadows(still driver version 306.97)

[code]2639 frames 16.696 seconds 158.07 fps ( 6.33 ms/f) 9.518 fps variability[/code]
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#43
0 Frags +
WaldoEDIT: Ran all tests again, this time with my CPU overclocked to 4.2GHz, got only around 15 more fps, does anyone know why my results are so shitty?

The x1xx series for AMD's FX processors are pretty bad. What resolution do you play on? You might want to save up a $140 and buy a 6300 or a little bit more and get a 8350 in the future because for tf2 the 4100 might not get you the best fps. Though you can always try overclocking more if you feel safe and have a good cooler.

[quote=Waldo]EDIT: Ran all tests again, this time with my CPU overclocked to 4.2GHz, got only around 15 more fps, does anyone know why my results are so shitty?[/quote]

The x1xx series for AMD's FX processors are pretty bad. What resolution do you play on? You might want to save up a $140 and buy a 6300 or a little bit more and get a 8350 in the future because for tf2 the 4100 might not get you the best fps. Though you can always try overclocking more if you feel safe and have a good cooler.
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#44
0 Frags +
2639 frames 19.526 seconds 135.15 fps ( 7.40 ms/f) 5.968 fp

CPU and overclock: 2500K @ 4.4 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 560tj

Driver version: 314.22
dxlevel (default is 90): 95
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

Additional notes: n/a

[code]2639 frames 19.526 seconds 135.15 fps ( 7.40 ms/f) 5.968 fp[/code]

CPU and overclock: 2500K @ 4.4 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 560tj

Driver version: 314.22
dxlevel (default is 90): 95
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx9frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: enabled

Additional notes: n/a
45
#45
0 Frags +
OblivionageWaldoEDIT: Ran all tests again, this time with my CPU overclocked to 4.2GHz, got only around 15 more fps, does anyone know why my results are so shitty?
The x1xx series for AMD's FX processors are pretty bad. What resolution do you play on? You might want to save up a $140 and buy a 6300 or a little bit more and get a 8350 in the future because for tf2 the 4100 might not get you the best fps. Though you can always try overclocking more if you feel safe and have a good cooler.

I'm running a Hyper 212, so I can probably OC this to 4.6 or 4.8, the point is that if TF2 only utilizes 2 cores, shouldn't a 4 core CPU @ 4.2 outdo an 8 core CPU @ 3.5?

[quote=Oblivionage][quote=Waldo]EDIT: Ran all tests again, this time with my CPU overclocked to 4.2GHz, got only around 15 more fps, does anyone know why my results are so shitty?[/quote]

The x1xx series for AMD's FX processors are pretty bad. What resolution do you play on? You might want to save up a $140 and buy a 6300 or a little bit more and get a 8350 in the future because for tf2 the 4100 might not get you the best fps. Though you can always try overclocking more if you feel safe and have a good cooler.[/quote]
I'm running a Hyper 212, so I can probably OC this to 4.6 or 4.8, the point is that if TF2 only utilizes 2 cores, shouldn't a 4 core CPU @ 4.2 outdo an 8 core CPU @ 3.5?
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#46
1 Frags +
2cRawrSpoon2cimage

not coinicidence

Variability does NOT mean standard deviation.

i haven't taken stat in five or so years, I think it is s.d. squared then? which would just make the disparity larger.

No, standard deviation squared would be variance, not variability. I don't think it will be possible for you to find standard deviation in this instance unless you watch like every moment and record your fps at that exact time and do that for every frame.

Source: I am in stats right now

[quote=2c][quote=RawrSpoon][quote=2c][img]image[/img]

not coinicidence[/quote]

Variability does NOT mean standard deviation.[/quote]


i haven't taken stat in five or so years, I think it is s.d. squared then? which would just make the disparity larger.[/quote]
No, standard deviation squared would be variance, not variability. I don't think it will be possible for you to find standard deviation in this instance unless you watch like every moment and record your fps at that exact time and do that for every frame.

Source: I am in stats right now
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#47
0 Frags +
WaldoOblivionageWaldoEDIT: Ran all tests again, this time with my CPU overclocked to 4.2GHz, got only around 15 more fps, does anyone know why my results are so shitty?
The x1xx series for AMD's FX processors are pretty bad. What resolution do you play on? You might want to save up a $140 and buy a 6300 or a little bit more and get a 8350 in the future because for tf2 the 4100 might not get you the best fps. Though you can always try overclocking more if you feel safe and have a good cooler.
I'm running a Hyper 212, so I can probably OC this to 4.6 or 4.8, the point is that if TF2 only utilizes 2 cores, shouldn't a 4 core CPU @ 4.2 outdo an 8 core CPU @ 3.5?

Yes a 4.2 quad would get higher fps than a 3.5 8 core in this game. Your current CPU is bulldozer based, the ones he suggested are piledriver based which brought slighty faster clock for clock speed(4GHz piledriver is faster than a 4GHz bulldozer).

If this is your main game though I wouldn't bother because the jump from bulldozer to piledriver still wont be anywhere close to what a newer i5 will get you.

[quote=Waldo][quote=Oblivionage][quote=Waldo]EDIT: Ran all tests again, this time with my CPU overclocked to 4.2GHz, got only around 15 more fps, does anyone know why my results are so shitty?[/quote]

The x1xx series for AMD's FX processors are pretty bad. What resolution do you play on? You might want to save up a $140 and buy a 6300 or a little bit more and get a 8350 in the future because for tf2 the 4100 might not get you the best fps. Though you can always try overclocking more if you feel safe and have a good cooler.[/quote]
I'm running a Hyper 212, so I can probably OC this to 4.6 or 4.8, the point is that if TF2 only utilizes 2 cores, shouldn't a 4 core CPU @ 4.2 outdo an 8 core CPU @ 3.5?[/quote]

Yes a 4.2 quad would get higher fps than a 3.5 8 core in this game. Your current CPU is bulldozer based, the ones he suggested are piledriver based which brought slighty faster clock for clock speed(4GHz piledriver is faster than a 4GHz bulldozer).


If this is your main game though I wouldn't bother because the jump from bulldozer to piledriver still wont be anywhere close to what a newer i5 will get you.
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#48
0 Frags +
2639 frames 54.491 seconds 48.43 fps (20.65 ms/f) 4.903 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i5 2310 @2.90
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB

Driver version: 9.2.0.0
dxlevel (default is 90): 90
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed
FPS configs enabled: Chris max quality
Shadows enabled/disabled: Enabled

[code]2639 frames 54.491 seconds 48.43 fps (20.65 ms/f) 4.903 fps variability[/code]


CPU and overclock: i5 2310 @2.90
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB

Driver version: 9.2.0.0
dxlevel (default is 90): 90
Resolution: 1920x1080
Full-screen or windowed: Windowed
FPS configs enabled: Chris max quality
Shadows enabled/disabled: Enabled
49
#49
0 Frags +

looks like cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 nets around a 5-10% increase. good catch

guessing it might be unstable though or they'd set it to 1 in the config

looks like cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 nets around a 5-10% increase. good catch

guessing it might be unstable though or they'd set it to 1 in the config
50
#50
1 Frags +

turned off gibs ragdolls and changed to cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 and got an increase of 57 fps

2639 frames 17.182 seconds 153.59 fps ( 6.51 ms/f) 10.664 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i5 3570 @ 3.4 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 660

Driver version: 306.97
dxlevel : 81
Resolution: 1024x768
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx8 max frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled

turned off gibs ragdolls and changed to cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 and got an increase of 57 fps

2639 frames 17.182 seconds 153.59 fps ( 6.51 ms/f) 10.664 fps variability

CPU and overclock: i5 3570 @ 3.4 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 660

Driver version: 306.97
dxlevel : 81
Resolution: 1024x768
Full-screen or windowed: Full
FPS configs enabled: Chris dx8 max frames
Shadows enabled/disabled: disabled
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