So you know the performance isn't what it should be and your solution is to throw 700$ at the problem and hope it disappears?

Clean windows install, clean TF2 install, clean config. Before that don't even think about blaming the hardware.

If you are at stock RAM speeds your FPS will be drastically lower because the infinity fabric of the CPU is tied to the RAM speed, so your CPU will run effectively run slower.

If you are running at 2133MHz RAM it will run a lot slower than say 3200MHz RAM. What RAM do you have? Is XMP for your RAM on?

Use Ryzen Timing Checker and check MEMCLK ratio and see if it matches your RAMs advertised speed. If your RAM supports XMP, turn it on in the BIOS.

hey papa setsul should I get an xg2402 or a g2590fx...

#3432
Well not the CPU itself really.
The RAM runs slower and the connection to it also runs slower so it's much more noticeable.

#3433
Doesn't mean it's running at 3000 MHz if you didn't set it to 3000 MHz.

#3434
Not sure why these two are the options. Why did you choose these two specifically, son?

Im honestly just looking for something super reliable and under 220 USD with 144hz, freesync and DP because I want this to last like 6 years without a hiccup (dead pixels, dying, whatever)
Im sure there are better alternatives but those two (mainly the xg2402) seem to have really good reviews
edit: and obviously neither of them have been in production for that long but im kinda just extrpolating longevity from reviews

Not sure how I'd score them on reliability.
The XG2402 should be a proven design with the same 24" 144 Hz TN panel everyone has been using for years. Not that different from all the other 24" 144 Hz TN monitors really.
The G2590FX uses one of those 24.5" panels that are usually found in 240 Hz monitors (didn't check the exact panel though) which could mean either it's running well below what it's capable of and might last longer or it's a shit panel and didn't make the cut, which would suggest the opposite.

Dont know if this fits here but can someone recommend me a decent external HDD?
Looking for 1TB and good transfer speeds etc. Also dont want it to break after two weeks.

I don't really know that much about pcs but i made this from looking at the logicalincrements website.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/jarx6/saved/#view=RJJQqs
The only games I play are csgo and league of legends so what I'm wanting is a stable 144fps in csgo on like mediumish settings (i play 4:3 if that helps)
Is there anything about this that can be improved? Or if its total shit, dont suppose you could recommend a build?
cheers

#3441
Budget?
Or just 144 fps on medium (which resolution?) as cheap as possible?
Quite a few improvements are possible, I just need to know whether they should be towards higher performance at the same price or same or at least still acceptable performance for your purposes at a lower price.

budget: roughly around the same price would be best. not really comfortable with too much more. so like 640 max if need be.
1024*768 most likely but maybe 1280×960 as well
forgot to mention that ill probably play fortnite as well so a comfy 60fps for that would be nice (if 144fps isnt possible on this budget QQ)
a higher performance at the same price would be preferable

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£77.98 @ Laptops Direct)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler (£23.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI H370M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£69.99 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£37.19 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial BX500 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£30.09 @ PC World Business)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.97 @ PC World Business)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card (£169.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£54.99 @ PC World Business)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£52.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £551.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 22:20 BST+0100

Always go for dual channel RAM.
An RX 580 should actually be good enough for 144 fps in Fortnite on medium if you're on a resolution lower than 1920x1080.
TF2 and Fortnite don't care about 6 cores so this should be slightly faster, but much cheaper.

Not really a fan of the 200R because it got no dust filters but you can swap that out for whatever you like.

Trying to make a decent build, this is what I've come up with with the help of a friend. Any criticisms/suggestions? Also how tf do I know which case would fit this? Also, I'm looking to use it for both tf2 and any AAA games that come out within the next 5 or so years. 1000 eur is as high as I'm willing to go (unless there's some massive upgrade for a negligible price increase), the prices provided are from local stores that are my only option for purchases.

CPU: CPU AMD AM4 Ryzen 5 Box, 3600 3,6 GHz MAX Boost 4,2GHz 6xCore
206 eur

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER WINDFORCE OC 8GB GDDR6 HDMI/3xDP DX12 WINDFORCE 2X
442 eur

HDD: SAMSUNG SSD 860 EVO SATA3 500GB
76 eur

MOBO: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX RYZEN DDR4-4133MHz USB3.1 DVI/VGA/HDMI RGB Mystic Light
110 eur

RAM: 2x DIMM 8GB DDR4 3200Mhz Kingston CL16 HyperX Fury Black HX432C16FB3K2/16
92 eur

PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 550W
74 eur

Total: 1000 eur

Thanks in advance

(before someone mentions it, yeah, no HDD, just an SSD, I don't play many different games or work with large files, 500 gigs is more than enough for me)

Any cheaper 2060 Super? What about the 5700?
PSU isn't terrible but at that price you could do better.
Full ATX mobo -> full ATX case (µATX would be too small). Check the max supported GPU length and that should be it. Not that a 2060 is particularly large, so any ATX case should be more than big enough.

CPU: CPU AMD AM4 Ryzen 5 Box, 3600 3,6 GHz MAX Boost 4,2GHz 6xCore
206 eur

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER WINDFORCE OC 8GB GDDR6 HDMI/3xDP DX12 WINDFORCE 2X
442 eur

HDD: SAMSUNG SSD 860 EVO SATA3 500GB
76 eur

MOBO: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX RYZEN DDR4-4133MHz USB3.1 DVI/VGA/HDMI RGB Mystic Light
110 eur

RAM: 2x DIMM 8GB DDR4 3200Mhz Kingston CL16 HyperX Fury Black HX432C16FB3K2/16
92 eur

PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 550W
74 eur

Total: 1000 eur

Seems good. If your local store has Crucial MX500s you can get that over an 860 Evo for less (well its usually less, no idea how prices are at your local stores). I also hear that GB Windforce fans have poor longevity, but I've only ever read about that on forums and stuff, no first hand experience.
Other than than I'd try to get a 600W (or even 650W) PSU, but I don't think a 550 would have any issues.
You can determine if your components will fit by checking your case's specs. They usually have a max GPU height and length and max cooler height along with other stuff.

edit: as setstul mentioned, a 5700 is also a good option to consider

@setsul and sniff
It's the cheapest 2060 super that I could find. The cheapest 5700 is 50 eur cheaper than the 2060 super. Is it any worse or should I save myself 50 eur and go for a 5700? There's also the 5700XT that's about 30 eur more expensive than the 2060 super. I know radeon gpus used to be considered inferior, had overheating issues, some games weren't optimized for them etc, but I don't know too much about PCs and I've been out of the loop for a while so I have no idea what the current situation is.
Oh also, I can get the 2060 super ventus for the same price, if the windforce is bad.

the stores only have samsung and kingston ssds unfortunately
I can get a cooler master mwe 650W for an extra 10 eur over the 550w, is it worth it/necessary?

Also, I'm looking at a coolermaster K350 case, I did some googling and it seems to be able to fit (from what ive gathered, it's 315mm max, the 2060 super is 229 mm), but can anyone confirm, just in case I'm making some huge oversight with the numbers (first time building a PC)

It is slightly slower, but not 50€ worth slower, so that's a thing. Not worth if it's reference (single fan) 5700 vs aftermarket 2060 Super.
5700 XT is definitely faster, same thing though. There's only so much a single fan can do, but if it's an aftermarket version then I'd say the extra 20€ would definitely be well spent.

My issue isn't with 550W, that's plenty for this build, but with the MWE Gold. Performance is ok but the components are not great. Not as in "this will die soon" but like "there's a reason why the warranty is 5 years, not 10". Like I said not terrible, but not something I'd pay 74€ for. Any other options?

The case would fit, but no dust filters and only one fan included. Not sure if there are better options available in local shops.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-R57XT-8GD-B#kf

This is the XT, I assume it's single fan from the pics?

For about 65 eur, I can get a 750w Corsair Builder Series CX, is that better than the mwe gold?
Anything else that I can find is either some cheap chinese brand (sharkoon and whatnot) or is 100+ eur

As for the cases, I don't see any with more than 1 fan. Going higher up in price only adds a built in psu and I'd feel dumb if i spent 100+ eur on a case for a 1000 eur pc

Yeah, in that case I'd get the 2060 Super.

No, that's actually worse. I guess the MWE Gold will have to do then.

Yeah, built-in PSUs are shit anyway. What about dust filters though? It's easy to buy an extra fan, dust filters not so much.

https://www.msi.com/PC-component/MAG-VAMPIRIC-010
Found this one for 63 eur. It says magnetic filters, does that mean dust filters or is it something else?

Yes, although none in the front where you usually need the most. Better than nothing I guess.
The case in general is kind of mediocre though, even for a budget case.
I guess there are no good options in the local shops so you'll have to live with some compromises either way.

I'll stop spamming you with case links right after this one, I found another store with a bit more variety.

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mini-tower/silencio-s400/

Is this better than the last?

If it is, I'll probably build my PC in the foreseeable future, after some exams. Thank you so much for your help, you're the tftv mvp

Yep, dust filters, all around good case, two fans.
It's a silent case, so in addition to some noise dampening material the intakes are a bit more restrictive, meaning a third fan could be worth it (no rush though, you can always add that later if you want lower temps), but if it's not too expensive it's definitely the best option.

One last question because I'm apparently too stupid to figure it out on my own. Does the s400 actually fit my motherboard and other parts? (Msi b450 tomahawk, and either 2060 super or 5700 xt). You said full size motherboard = full size case but this one has mini in the name

Good catch, i checked for the previous case but not that one. Only up to µATX so either µATX mobo or we're back to looking for a case. No problem with the GPU length though, 319mm is plenty.

They have the s600 too, I checked and it supports atx. From what I can see it's just a bigger s400. Fuck it, 90 eur case it is. Thanks a lot again :)

Upgrading/ basically just building a new computer, just made this with logicalincrements so I'd like some feedback. I just want to be able to run whatever new games come out at 120 fps high graphics for the next few years and be able to get 250 in stuff like tf2

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/saam/saved/jLYjpg

I already have the Z370 motherboard, I have to flash it to be able to use the 9900 but I think it would be worth it? Never done it before but it doesn't look to impossible as long as you follow directions. The only other thing I'm reusing is the PSU.

Budget is a soft $2500

edit: streaming is not a priority so I also kinda feel like I fucked up with the processor but I'm fine paying that much for it if it means my computer will be dope for a while

There's little reason to buy a 2080 when the 2070 Super exists
seagate drives above 2TB have higher failure rates than other manufacturers do (ie toshiba, hitachi, idk about WD), but it's still a small percentage compared to overall purchases
you can get a 650W focus plus gold for $43 less than that bronze rated 600W corsair psu

#3460
Well do you want it to be faster or cheaper?
7200 rpm HDD and 2070 Super are definitely things to consider, otherwise it looks fine.

120 fps on high for a few years might be a bit overoptimistic but replacing the GPU is easy.

#3461
Source? And there is a wrong answer.

EDIT: # are off by one because of nuking.

Thanks, switched to the 2070 Super after looking into it.

Only reason for the 600W Corsair is I already own it, is it worth to just get a new PSU with the money saved here though?

Also I feel like it could be worth it to do a new motherboard to save the headache of flashing the bios or whatever but on the other hand I may as well try first right

@Setsul I'd rather it be faster, budget isn't a huge deal. I still don't like overspending for small increases though

At that budget the price to performance ratio will only get worse, not sure if you consider that overpaying.
Maybe check whether you'd get 120 fps in recent games on the settings you want.
Short of waiting for Zen3 there isn't a whole lot you can do on the CPU side. If anything since streaming isn't a priority you'd be fine with fewer threads/cores (9700K/9600K), but that might not even be an upgrade anymore depending on what you've got right now. Maybe the 9900KS if it is in stock and not too expensive, but the difference between that and a normal 9900K(F) is probably marginal if both are overclocked.

PSU is fine. Fully modular is a bit nicer to build with, but I see no reason to replace it if it isn't that old.

Flashing is fairly easy if you've got a working CPU so yeah, definitely try it.