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mustardoverlord
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=8#227
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=7#203
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=7#197
http://www.teamfortress.tv/19644/lets-talk-ferguson#28
http://www.teamfortress.tv/19644/lets-talk-ferguson#25
http://www.teamfortress.tv/30408/donald-trump/?page=5#121
http://www.teamfortress.tv/29858/paris-terrorist-attack/?page=11#307
http://www.teamfortress.tv/29858/paris-terrorist-attack/?page=16#471

You basically wasted your time and posted a bunch of shit that doesn't support anything you have to say yet again.

In each post, I can't spot a single fucking instance where I was being "RACIST" against anyone. In each and every one of those posts, I stated my valid opinion on those incidents that is shared by many in this country. Maybe you should learn that just because others don't have the same opinion you doesn't mean you label it all "racist"

In the "live from the streets" and "ferguson" thread: It is not racist to support the police regardless of the color of the victim. If you don't agree with my view point that is fine but nothing I said was racist at all.

In the "donald trump" and "Paris attacks" thread: It is not racist to hate and want to destroy every terrorist that means my country harm. Once again, you and whoever else can disagree with me but it doesn't make anything racist.

I think you need to look at yourself kid and get off your moral high horse thinking your point of view is the only one that matters. You also need to analyze what it means to "say something racist" because you obviously have no fucking clue.

[quote=mustardoverlord]

http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=8#227
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=7#203
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=7#197
http://www.teamfortress.tv/19644/lets-talk-ferguson#28
http://www.teamfortress.tv/19644/lets-talk-ferguson#25
http://www.teamfortress.tv/30408/donald-trump/?page=5#121
http://www.teamfortress.tv/29858/paris-terrorist-attack/?page=11#307
http://www.teamfortress.tv/29858/paris-terrorist-attack/?page=16#471

[/quote]

You basically wasted your time and posted a bunch of shit that doesn't support anything you have to say yet again.

In each post, I can't spot a single fucking instance where I was being "RACIST" against anyone. In each and every one of those posts, I stated my [b]valid opinion[/b] on those incidents that is shared by many in this country. Maybe you should learn that just because others don't have the same opinion you doesn't mean you label it all "racist"

In the "live from the streets" and "ferguson" thread: It is not racist to support the police regardless of the color of the victim. If you don't agree with my view point that is fine but nothing I said was racist at all.

In the "donald trump" and "Paris attacks" thread: It is not racist to hate and want to destroy every terrorist that means my country harm. Once again, you and whoever else can disagree with me but it doesn't make anything racist.

I think you need to look at yourself kid and get off your moral high horse thinking your point of view is the only one that matters. You also need to analyze what it means to "say something racist" because you obviously have no fucking clue.
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#62
31 Frags +

ur fucking delusional

ur fucking delusional
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#63
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http://talkobamato.me/synth/output/8a88fd72f550bf44c502b9e5ceaa8fc0/obama.mp4

http://talkobamato.me/synth/output/8a88fd72f550bf44c502b9e5ceaa8fc0/obama.mp4
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#64
3 Frags +

http://static.ylilauta.org/files/fp/orig/wobur2y9/14583737768710.mp4

http://static.ylilauta.org/files/fp/orig/wobur2y9/14583737768710.mp4
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#65
refresh.tf
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SpaceCadetmy valid opinion

ok

[quote=SpaceCadet]my [b]valid opinion[/b][/quote]

ok
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#66
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SpaceCadetmustardoverlord
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=8#227
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=7#203
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=7#197
http://www.teamfortress.tv/19644/lets-talk-ferguson#28
http://www.teamfortress.tv/19644/lets-talk-ferguson#25
http://www.teamfortress.tv/30408/donald-trump/?page=5#121
http://www.teamfortress.tv/29858/paris-terrorist-attack/?page=11#307
http://www.teamfortress.tv/29858/paris-terrorist-attack/?page=16#471

You basically wasted your time and posted a bunch of shit that doesn't support anything you have to say yet again.

In each post, I can't spot a single fucking instance where I was being "RACIST" against anyone. In each and every one of those posts, I stated my valid opinion on those incidents that is shared by many in this country. Maybe you should learn that just because others don't have the same opinion you doesn't mean you label it all "racist"

In the "live from the streets" and "ferguson" thread: It is not racist to support the police regardless of the color of the victim. If you don't agree with my view point that is fine but nothing I said was racist at all.

In the "donald trump" and "Paris attacks" thread: It is not racist to hate and want to destroy every terrorist that means my country harm. Once again, you and whoever else can disagree with me but it doesn't make anything racist.

I think you need to look at yourself kid and get off your moral high horse thinking your point of view is the only one that matters. You also need to analyze what it means to "say something racist" because you obviously have no fucking clue.

I'd hate to agree with mustard but things like this "Can't those religions just stay in their respective part of the world?" and "A time will come, probably after many more attacks, when the countries of the west realize you can't be civilized with cultures/religions that have not evolved to that level." are horribly bigoted and lacks a lot of understanding. Islam =/= terrorism, and the way you said those things makes it look like you're saying that Islam = Terrorism.

[quote=SpaceCadet][quote=mustardoverlord]

http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=8#227
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=7#203
http://www.teamfortress.tv/21298/live-from-the-streets/?page=7#197
http://www.teamfortress.tv/19644/lets-talk-ferguson#28
http://www.teamfortress.tv/19644/lets-talk-ferguson#25
http://www.teamfortress.tv/30408/donald-trump/?page=5#121
http://www.teamfortress.tv/29858/paris-terrorist-attack/?page=11#307
http://www.teamfortress.tv/29858/paris-terrorist-attack/?page=16#471

[/quote]

You basically wasted your time and posted a bunch of shit that doesn't support anything you have to say yet again.

In each post, I can't spot a single fucking instance where I was being "RACIST" against anyone. In each and every one of those posts, I stated my [b]valid opinion[/b] on those incidents that is shared by many in this country. Maybe you should learn that just because others don't have the same opinion you doesn't mean you label it all "racist"

In the "live from the streets" and "ferguson" thread: It is not racist to support the police regardless of the color of the victim. If you don't agree with my view point that is fine but nothing I said was racist at all.

In the "donald trump" and "Paris attacks" thread: It is not racist to hate and want to destroy every terrorist that means my country harm. Once again, you and whoever else can disagree with me but it doesn't make anything racist.

I think you need to look at yourself kid and get off your moral high horse thinking your point of view is the only one that matters. You also need to analyze what it means to "say something racist" because you obviously have no fucking clue.[/quote]

I'd hate to agree with mustard but things like this "[i]Can't those religions just stay in their respective part of the world?[/i]" and "[i]A time will come, probably after many more attacks, when the countries of the west realize you can't be civilized with cultures/religions that have not evolved to that level.[/i]" are horribly bigoted and lacks a lot of understanding. Islam =/= terrorism, and the way you said those things makes it look like you're saying that Islam = Terrorism.
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#67
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I'd hate to agree with mustard but things like this "Can't those religions just stay in their respective part of the world?" and "A time will come, probably after many more attacks, when the countries of the west realize you can't be civilized with cultures/religions that have not evolved to that level." are horribly bigoted and lacks a lot of understanding. Islam =/= terrorism, and the way you said those things makes it look like you're saying that Islam = Terrorism.

I understand, and while the wording may have come across that way, I stated repeatedly in that thread it was all in relation to terrorists. Was ignored or not read. I also said in that thread that my whole view point was about border security for this country, it wasn't race related.

[quote]I'd hate to agree with mustard but things like this "Can't those religions just stay in their respective part of the world?" and "A time will come, probably after many more attacks, when the countries of the west realize you can't be civilized with cultures/religions that have not evolved to that level." are horribly bigoted and lacks a lot of understanding. Islam =/= terrorism, and the way you said those things makes it look like you're saying that Islam = Terrorism.[/quote]

I understand, and while the wording may have come across that way, I stated repeatedly in that thread it was all in relation to terrorists. Was ignored or not read. I also said in that thread that my whole view point was about border security for this country, it wasn't race related.
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#68
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every shitposter helps this community thrive with horrible wording, horrible opinions, and good laughs for like 4 minutes
your welcome

every shitposter helps this community thrive with horrible wording, horrible opinions, and good laughs for like 4 minutes
your welcome
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#69
24 Frags +

playing a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101

playing a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101
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#70
8 Frags +

take the L space

take the L space
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#71
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fightplaying a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101

I suspect this is why spacecadet's first post on the previous page still has 11 +frags, because of the people who saw "shut the fuck up mustard" and mashed the button right away

which is fine by me, I now get a great mental image of 11 dudes sitting in front of their computer having it slowly dawn on them what they just agreed to like they're an extra in Borat or something

[quote=fight]playing a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101[/quote]

I suspect this is why spacecadet's first post on the previous page still has 11 +frags, because of the people who saw "shut the fuck up mustard" and mashed the button right away

which is fine by me, I now get a great mental image of 11 dudes sitting in front of their computer having it slowly dawn on them what they just agreed to like they're an extra in Borat or something
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#72
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mustardoverlordfightplaying a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101

I suspect this is why spacecadet's first post on the previous page still has 11 +frags, because of the people who saw "shut the fuck up mustard" and mashed the button right away

which is fine by me, I now get a great mental image of 11 dudes sitting in front of their computer having it slowly dawn on them what they just agreed to like they're an extra in Borat or something

Right, because its not your own fault you make an ass out of yourself on this board on a daily basis. You worry about +frags on this board? are you serious? You do nothing but fan flames over and over with no real substance of your own. Keep doing what you do, I will not be wasting my time on it from this point.

[quote=mustardoverlord][quote=fight]playing a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101[/quote]

I suspect this is why spacecadet's first post on the previous page still has 11 +frags, because of the people who saw "shut the fuck up mustard" and mashed the button right away

which is fine by me, I now get a great mental image of 11 dudes sitting in front of their computer having it slowly dawn on them what they just agreed to like they're an extra in Borat or something[/quote]

Right, because its not your own fault you make an ass out of yourself on this board on a daily basis. You worry about +frags on this board? are you serious? You do nothing but fan flames over and over with no real substance of your own. Keep doing what you do, I will not be wasting my time on it from this point.
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#73
refresh.tf
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SpaceCadetmustardoverlordfightplaying a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101

I suspect this is why spacecadet's first post on the previous page still has 11 +frags, because of the people who saw "shut the fuck up mustard" and mashed the button right away

which is fine by me, I now get a great mental image of 11 dudes sitting in front of their computer having it slowly dawn on them what they just agreed to like they're an extra in Borat or something

Right, because its not your own fault you make an ass out of yourself on this board on a daily basis. You worry about +frags on this board? are you serious? You do nothing but fan flames over and over with no real substance of your own. Keep doing what you do, I will not be wasting my time on it from this point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

[quote=SpaceCadet][quote=mustardoverlord][quote=fight]playing a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101[/quote]

I suspect this is why spacecadet's first post on the previous page still has 11 +frags, because of the people who saw "shut the fuck up mustard" and mashed the button right away

which is fine by me, I now get a great mental image of 11 dudes sitting in front of their computer having it slowly dawn on them what they just agreed to like they're an extra in Borat or something[/quote]

Right, because its not your own fault you make an ass out of yourself on this board on a daily basis. You worry about +frags on this board? are you serious? You do nothing but fan flames over and over with no real substance of your own. Keep doing what you do, I will not be wasting my time on it from this point.[/quote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
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#74
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SpaceCadetmustardoverlordfightplaying a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101

I suspect this is why spacecadet's first post on the previous page still has 11 +frags, because of the people who saw "shut the fuck up mustard" and mashed the button right away

which is fine by me, I now get a great mental image of 11 dudes sitting in front of their computer having it slowly dawn on them what they just agreed to like they're an extra in Borat or something

Right, because its not your own fault you make an ass out of yourself on this board on a daily basis. You worry about +frags on this board? are you serious? You do nothing but fan flames over and over with no real substance of your own. Keep doing what you do, I will not be wasting my time on it from this point.

u can call mustard annoying all u want but the dude bangs out essays on the regular not sure the no substance claim makes any sense whatsoever

[quote=SpaceCadet][quote=mustardoverlord][quote=fight]playing a card that wasn't "mustardoverlord, am I right guys? haha" seems to have backfired for you

always go for the easy +frags before you pull out the extremist rhetoric, it's shitposting 101[/quote]

I suspect this is why spacecadet's first post on the previous page still has 11 +frags, because of the people who saw "shut the fuck up mustard" and mashed the button right away

which is fine by me, I now get a great mental image of 11 dudes sitting in front of their computer having it slowly dawn on them what they just agreed to like they're an extra in Borat or something[/quote]

Right, because its not your own fault you make an ass out of yourself on this board on a daily basis. You worry about +frags on this board? are you serious? You do nothing but fan flames over and over with no real substance of your own. Keep doing what you do, I will not be wasting my time on it from this point.[/quote]

u can call mustard annoying all u want but the dude bangs out essays on the regular not sure the no substance claim makes any sense whatsoever
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#75
32 Frags +

So a thread about how sheepy should be banned for shitposting turns into a forum shitpost war with a bunch of people arguing over random bullshit...

Judging by this thread, sheepy fits right in this community

So a thread about how sheepy should be banned for shitposting turns into a forum shitpost war with a bunch of people arguing over random bullshit...

Judging by this thread, sheepy fits right in this community
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#76
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SentinelSo a thread about how sheepy should be banned for shitposting turns into a forum shitpost war with a bunch of people arguing over random bullshit...

Judging by this thread, sheepy fits right in this community

going back to my original point where this shit shouldn't be on the first forum anyone interested in 6s is going to visit

at least make threads in off topic or the dumpster be hidden from people who aren't signed in.

[quote=Sentinel]So a thread about how sheepy should be banned for shitposting turns into a forum shitpost war with a bunch of people arguing over random bullshit...

Judging by this thread, sheepy fits right in this community[/quote]
going back to my original point where this shit shouldn't be on the first forum anyone interested in 6s is going to visit

at least make threads in off topic or the dumpster be hidden from people who aren't signed in.
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#77
21 Frags +

let's ban everyone with different opinions

let's ban everyone with different opinions
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#78
-3 Frags +

Sheepy is so far beyond having just different opinions I can't believe anyone could be as stupid as him he has to be a troll

Sheepy is so far beyond having just different opinions I can't believe anyone could be as stupid as him he has to be a troll
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#79
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eeeSentinelSo a thread about how sheepy should be banned for shitposting turns into a forum shitpost war with a bunch of people arguing over random bullshit...

Judging by this thread, sheepy fits right in this community
going back to my original point where this shit shouldn't be on the first forum anyone interested in 6s is going to visit

at least make threads in off topic or the dumpster be hidden from people who aren't signed in.

An extremely good point that I agree with. I care way more for the community and about TF2 growing in general. TFTV is the only real place competitive thrives so seeing arguments like this on the front page can drive new ppl away and I would hate to think I had a hand in that. I basically come online every night to play TF2 and try to improve as any teammate I have had can attest, but this forum BS isn't good. So regardless of me defending myself against false accusations or being right/wrong about anything posted, I can just say sorry for my end and not get involved with it again.

[quote=eee][quote=Sentinel]So a thread about how sheepy should be banned for shitposting turns into a forum shitpost war with a bunch of people arguing over random bullshit...

Judging by this thread, sheepy fits right in this community[/quote]
going back to my original point where this shit shouldn't be on the first forum anyone interested in 6s is going to visit

at least make threads in off topic or the dumpster be hidden from people who aren't signed in.[/quote]

An extremely good point that I agree with. I care way more for the community and about TF2 growing in general. TFTV is the only real place competitive thrives so seeing arguments like this on the front page can drive new ppl away and I would hate to think I had a hand in that. I basically come online every night to play TF2 and try to improve as any teammate I have had can attest, but this forum BS isn't good. So regardless of me defending myself against false accusations or being right/wrong about anything posted, I can just say sorry for my end and not get involved with it again.
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#80
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saamSheepy is so far beyond having just different opinions I can't believe anyone could be as stupid as him he has to be a troll

This is, to use a buzzword, an oppressive attitude to have, and this kind of thinking is what is slowly causing " thought crime" to become a reality. Please do not do this.

[quote=saam]Sheepy is so far beyond having just different opinions I can't believe anyone could be as stupid as him he has to be a troll[/quote]

This is, to use a buzzword, an oppressive attitude to have, and this kind of thinking is what is slowly causing " thought crime" to become a reality. Please do not do this.
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#81
0 Frags +

Issues like terrorism/crime/etc have nuanced answers, which often lies between <all of because X> and <nothing related to X>. A good way to find extremists is their reaction to any sort of nuanced discussion, (bigots and SJWs being good examples, regardless of political spectrum). Extremism has never solved anything.

That being said, banning sheepy isn't going to do anything, you're free to use the tftv blocker extension if you don't like what he says, but many find it quite entertaining and a reminder of what a lack a nuance looks like.

Issues like terrorism/crime/etc have nuanced answers, which often lies between <all of because X> and <nothing related to X>. A good way to find extremists is their reaction to any sort of nuanced discussion, (bigots and SJWs being good examples, regardless of political spectrum). Extremism has never solved anything.

That being said, banning sheepy isn't going to do anything, you're free to use the tftv blocker extension if you don't like what he says, but many find it quite entertaining and a reminder of what a lack a nuance looks like.
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#82
-3 Frags +

I actually love sheepy and agree with all of his opinions, this is a forum where we should be accepting of all people, whether retarded, intelligent, or even scottish. Frankly, Sheepy is one of the most amusing, and in my opinion GREATEST member of tftv, I hope you guys see my point of view and decide to go AGAINST this petition to ban sheepy from this great posting website known as teAMFOrtress tv

also down frag smesi

I actually love sheepy and agree with all of his opinions, this is a forum where we should be accepting of all people, whether retarded, intelligent, or even scottish. Frankly, Sheepy is one of the most amusing, and in my opinion GREATEST member of tftv, I hope you guys see my point of view and decide to go AGAINST this petition to ban sheepy from this great posting website known as teAMFOrtress tv

also down frag smesi
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#83
-5 Frags +

pls

pls
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#84
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MumaMelonTFsaamSheepy is so far beyond having just different opinions I can't believe anyone could be as stupid as him he has to be a troll
This is, to use a buzzword, an oppressive attitude to have, and this kind of thinking is what is slowly causing " thought crime" to become a reality. Please do not do this.

I hate everyone that isn't white
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If you -frag me you're just creating a thought crime

Not about the -frags buddy, which really shouldn't exist, but more about the use of the moral highground to immediately dismiss and demonize ideas.

[quote=Muma][quote=MelonTF][quote=saam]Sheepy is so far beyond having just different opinions I can't believe anyone could be as stupid as him he has to be a troll[/quote]

This is, to use a buzzword, an oppressive attitude to have, and this kind of thinking is what is slowly causing " thought crime" to become a reality. Please do not do this.[/quote]

I hate everyone that isn't white

[spoiler]If you -frag me you're just creating a thought crime[/spoiler][/quote]

Not about the -frags buddy, which really shouldn't exist, but more about the use of the moral highground to immediately dismiss and demonize ideas.
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#85
-3 Frags +

help

help
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#86
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MelonTFsaamSheepy is so far beyond having just different opinions I can't believe anyone could be as stupid as him he has to be a troll
This is, to use a buzzword, an oppressive attitude to have, and this kind of thinking is what is slowly causing " thought crime" to become a reality. Please do not do this.

you might have a point if tf.tv was a country and not a private forum

enigma/mana don't have to let extremist ideas exist on this site if they dont want them

[quote=MelonTF][quote=saam]Sheepy is so far beyond having just different opinions I can't believe anyone could be as stupid as him he has to be a troll[/quote]

This is, to use a buzzword, an oppressive attitude to have, and this kind of thinking is what is slowly causing " thought crime" to become a reality. Please do not do this.[/quote]
you might have a point if tf.tv was a country and not a private forum

enigma/mana don't have to let extremist ideas exist on this site if they dont want them
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#87
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MumaExcept that's not what's happening at all. The ideas are being dismissed and demonized through pages of text. How is saying "you shouldn't think you're superior just because you're white" using a moral high ground. Do you know what that means?

In this thread you're correct, but I should clarify that I am talking less about specifics and more about the general state of social affairs. There has been a good amount of non dismissive discussion in this thread so far, which is pleasant to me at least. My vendettanisnt to defend individual posters themselves but their overall security in speech. However, the way people post on this site in general tends to be very quick and extreme. While certain posters may deseve an ill reputation, i personally believe that a lot of why some people post the way they do are the + and - frags. It seems a lot like one poster gets people to agree with him simply because he holds the most sway or is more popular.

[quote=Muma]Except that's not what's happening at all. The ideas are being dismissed and demonized through pages of text. How is saying "you shouldn't think you're superior just because you're white" using a moral high ground. Do you know what that means?[/quote]

In this thread you're correct, but I should clarify that I am talking less about specifics and more about the general state of social affairs. There has been a good amount of non dismissive discussion in this thread so far, which is pleasant to me at least. My vendettanisnt to defend individual posters themselves but their overall security in speech. However, the way people post on this site in general tends to be very quick and extreme. While certain posters may deseve an ill reputation, i personally believe that a lot of why some people post the way they do are the + and - frags. It seems a lot like one poster gets people to agree with him simply because he holds the most sway or is more popular.
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#88
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http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/939/737/184.gif

These are the threads that make me sick and tired of people with differing opinions on the internet

[img]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/939/737/184.gif[/img]
These are the threads that make me sick and tired of people with differing opinions on the internet
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#89
14 Frags +

I stand by what I said but isn't it a little childish to make a thread like this just because I said something you don't agree with. I don't mean to upset you and sorry if I do but If my opinion upsets you so much just ignore it mate. I feel like I should be allowed to voice my opinion just like everyone else here or try to encourage people to vote for Trump, just like other people do the same for Bernie. It seems really unfair to ban me when there are others who just troll, you don't see them getting threads to petition to ban them though.

I stand by what I said but isn't it a little childish to make a thread like this just because I said something you don't agree with. I don't mean to upset you and sorry if I do but If my opinion upsets you so much just ignore it mate. I feel like I should be allowed to voice my opinion just like everyone else here or try to encourage people to vote for Trump, just like other people do the same for Bernie. It seems really unfair to ban me when there are others who just troll, you don't see them getting threads to petition to ban them though.
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#90
2 Frags +

god help us all

god help us all
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