2018 NBA All-Star Game Voting

#1

Mute

0 Frags – +

https://vote.nba.com/?referrer

who are you guys voting for?

here is my lineup

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who are you guys voting for?

here is my lineup
[img]http://puu.sh/yLkJS/85251362a0.jpg[/img]

#2

warriordragon12

7 Frags – +

why are you voting for someone whos played 3 games this whole season?

#3

Spades

2 Frags – +

(First sentence literally ninja'd by less than 30 seconds)
Not that he isn't an all-star, but Kawhi didn't play a single game until mid-December.
Swap Russ for CP3/KD and Embiid for Simmons and that looks good to me

#4

dot_

3 Frags – +

peep the snap during all stars

#5

mustardoverlord

0 Frags – +

lol people who think demar derozan is a top player

#6

Hunter_2_0

1 Frags – +

There's still like a month to go before voting closes. I would wait for a bigger sample size.

#7

indecency

1 Frags – +

get my boy kawhi in there anyway he deserves it
and demar derozan? whyyyyyyyy????????????

#8

cin

6 Frags – +

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#9

ymRaisin

2 Frags – +

Victor Oladipo is absolutely an all-star this season. I'd pick him over Derozan. Also I'd pick Karl Anthony-Towns over Boogie.

#10

nyk

-7 Frags – +

Porzingis is the best frontcourt player in the nba

#11

mustardoverlord

4 Frags – +

ymRaisinAlso I'd pick Karl Anthony-Towns over Boogie.

defense

[quote=ymRaisin]Also I'd pick Karl Anthony-Towns over Boogie.[/quote]

defense

#12

mustardoverlord

0 Frags – +

unskilledhttps://gyazo.com/398d492c296ca158cb25ff760ecc1ec2.png

mine is extremely similar to this:

https://i.imgur.com/8fE5mVq.png

lamarcus is having an insanely underrated season, he's playing really good defense when he's at center and averaging 23 a game on excellent efficiency

[quote=unskilled][img]https://gyazo.com/398d492c296ca158cb25ff760ecc1ec2.png[/img][/quote]

mine is extremely similar to this:

https://i.imgur.com/8fE5mVq.png

lamarcus is having an insanely underrated season, he's playing really good defense when he's at center and averaging 23 a game on excellent efficiency

#13

lucrative

-3 Frags – +

mustardoverlordlol people who think demar derozan is a top player

DeMar DeRozan Averages this season thus far;

GP 29
Min 34.1
Pts 24.0
FG% 48.9
3pt% 27.8
Reb 4.3
Ast 5.1
Stl 1.2
Blk 0.2

you're right, those statistics look nothing like other all stars stat lines. and you picked victor oladipo who is posting nearly identical stats.

[quote=mustardoverlord]lol people who think demar derozan is a top player[/quote]
DeMar DeRozan Averages this season thus far;

GP 29
Min 34.1
Pts 24.0
FG% 48.9
3pt% 27.8
Reb 4.3
Ast 5.1
Stl 1.2
Blk 0.2

you're right, those statistics look nothing like other all stars stat lines. and you picked victor oladipo who is posting nearly identical stats.

#14

indecency

5 Frags – +

nykPorzingis is the best frontcourt player in the nba

anthony davis
demarcus cousins
lamarcus aldridge

[quote=nyk]Porzingis is the best frontcourt player in the nba[/quote]

anthony davis
demarcus cousins
lamarcus aldridge

#15

mustardoverlord

5 Frags – +

indecencynykPorzingis is the best frontcourt player in the nba
anthony davis
demarcus cousins
lamarcus aldridge

dont forget that the term "frontcourt" includes 3s, aka lebron giannis kd and kawhi

also joel embiid if he stays healthy is better too

[quote=indecency][quote=nyk]Porzingis is the best frontcourt player in the nba[/quote]

anthony davis
demarcus cousins
lamarcus aldridge[/quote]

dont forget that the term "frontcourt" includes 3s, aka lebron giannis kd and kawhi

also joel embiid if he stays healthy is better too

#16

mustardoverlord

3 Frags – +

lucrativemustardoverlordlol people who think demar derozan is a top playerDeMar DeRozan Averages this season thus far;

GP 29
Min 34.1
Pts 24.0
FG% 48.9
3pt% 27.8
Reb 4.3
Ast 5.1
Stl 1.2
Blk 0.2

you're right, those statistics look nothing like other all stars stat lines. and you picked victor oladipo who is posting nearly identical stats.

demar derozan's eFG%: 51% (below league average) despite playing with kyle lowry to create for him (and a lot of supplemental talent)

victor oladipo's eFG%: 56% (slightly above league average) despite having way worse talent around him (not the worst imaginable, collison turner young joseph and sabonis are all pretty good, but way worse than the raptors)

victor oladipo's defense: passable but nothing special

demar derozan's defense: truly atrocious

derozan has the edge in that we've seen his key strengths (midrange jumpers and bullshit foul drawing) work for many seasons now, whereas oladipo's big strength (43% on 3s) could be super aberrational. that said, we've also seen derozan collapse like a dying sun in the playoffs which has to affect my judgment.

honestly even oladipo is an imperfect candidate but the guards are too weak in the east- I almost went with kemba walker but his stats were slightly worse, john wall has missed a lot of time, lowry is not having his best season, isaiah hasn't played yet, bradley beal is a solid candidate but he has way more help around him, and I don't think putting simmons as a guard makes sense no matter what the nba.com website says

[quote=lucrative][quote=mustardoverlord]lol people who think demar derozan is a top player[/quote]
DeMar DeRozan Averages this season thus far;

GP 29
Min 34.1
Pts 24.0
FG% 48.9
3pt% 27.8
Reb 4.3
Ast 5.1
Stl 1.2
Blk 0.2

you're right, those statistics look nothing like other all stars stat lines. and you picked victor oladipo who is posting nearly identical stats.[/quote]

demar derozan's eFG%: 51% (below league average) despite playing with kyle lowry to create for him (and a lot of supplemental talent)

victor oladipo's eFG%: 56% (slightly above league average) despite having way worse talent around him (not the worst imaginable, collison turner young joseph and sabonis are all pretty good, but way worse than the raptors)

victor oladipo's defense: passable but nothing special

demar derozan's defense: truly atrocious

derozan has the edge in that we've seen his key strengths (midrange jumpers and bullshit foul drawing) work for many seasons now, whereas oladipo's big strength (43% on 3s) could be super aberrational. that said, we've also seen derozan collapse like a dying sun in the playoffs which has to affect my judgment.

honestly even oladipo is an imperfect candidate but the guards are too weak in the east- I almost went with kemba walker but his stats were slightly worse, john wall has missed a lot of time, lowry is not having his best season, isaiah hasn't played yet, bradley beal is a solid candidate but he has way more help around him, and I don't think putting simmons as a guard makes sense no matter what the nba.com website says

#17

mustardoverlord

4 Frags – +

lemme throw in a few more advanced stats:

RPM:
Oladipo- 4.62
DeRozan- 1.52

Offensive RPM:
Oladipo- 3.22
DeRozan- 2.93

Defensive RPM:
Oladipo- 1.40
DeRozan- -1.41 (401st in the league lol)

bonus- Kyle Lowry has 4.63 RPM and 4.11 ORPM, no one else on the Pacers is even close to that

lemme throw in a few more advanced stats:

RPM:
Oladipo- 4.62
DeRozan- 1.52

Offensive RPM:
Oladipo- 3.22
DeRozan- 2.93

Defensive RPM:
Oladipo- 1.40
DeRozan- [b]-[/b]1.41 (401st in the league lol)

bonus- Kyle Lowry has 4.63 RPM and 4.11 ORPM, no one else on the Pacers is even close to that

#18

lucrative

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not trying to get into an argument, I wasn't trying to say stats are everything, they obviously aren't. but saying DeRozan isn't a top player is a joke lol 3 All Star appearances, All NBA third team last year and has been the biggest reason along with Lowry why the raptors have been in the East Finals 2 years running. People think hes a top player and plays like one lol

Also just posted 45 pts tonight as a sidenote

not trying to get into an argument, I wasn't trying to say stats are everything, they obviously aren't. but saying DeRozan isn't a top player is a joke lol 3 All Star appearances, All NBA third team last year and has been the biggest reason along with Lowry why the raptors have been in the East Finals 2 years running. People think hes a top player and plays like one lol

Also just posted 45 pts tonight as a sidenote

#19

nyk

-7 Frags – +

mustardoverlordindecencynykPorzingis is the best frontcourt player in the nba
anthony davis
demarcus cousins
lamarcus aldridge
dont forget that the term "frontcourt" includes 3s, aka lebron giannis kd and kawhi

also joel embiid if he stays healthy is better too

Give me one reason lebron is better than KP.

[quote=mustardoverlord][quote=indecency][quote=nyk]Porzingis is the best frontcourt player in the nba[/quote]

anthony davis
demarcus cousins
lamarcus aldridge[/quote]

dont forget that the term "frontcourt" includes 3s, aka lebron giannis kd and kawhi

also joel embiid if he stays healthy is better too[/quote]
Give me one reason lebron is better than KP.

#20

indecency

5 Frags – +

nykmustardoverlordindecencynykPorzingis is the best frontcourt player in the nba
anthony davis
demarcus cousins
lamarcus aldridge
dont forget that the term "frontcourt" includes 3s, aka lebron giannis kd and kawhi

also joel embiid if he stays healthy is better tooGive me one reason lebron is better than KP.

okay first of all

[quote=nyk][quote=mustardoverlord][quote=indecency][quote=nyk]Porzingis is the best frontcourt player in the nba[/quote]

anthony davis
demarcus cousins
lamarcus aldridge[/quote]

dont forget that the term "frontcourt" includes 3s, aka lebron giannis kd and kawhi

also joel embiid if he stays healthy is better too[/quote]
Give me one reason lebron is better than KP.[/quote]
okay first of all

#21

tatuwah

-3 Frags – +

https://gyazo.com/faf956b01142a6e77f6dd9255c06cbd7.png

[img]https://gyazo.com/faf956b01142a6e77f6dd9255c06cbd7.png[/img]

#22

saf

8 Frags – +

nykGive me one reason lebron is better than KP.

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/lebronwhaaa.gif?w=1000

[quote=nyk]
Give me one reason lebron is better than KP.[/quote]

[img]https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/lebronwhaaa.gif?w=1000
[/img]

#23

mustardoverlord

2 Frags – +

I should note that, while I stand 100% behind the logic that I used when I argued with luc that victor oladipo was having a better season than demar derozan as of our posts, derozan has been utterly ridiculous since then (including in ways that he hasn't even in his best seasons previously, ie 3 pt shooting and passing), and has earned all star starter status for the first time in his career imo

I think he literally had the 50 pt game like a day after I last posted lmao

edit: I still think for the guard spots, oladipo kyrie and derozan are extremely close, you'd prolly go with games played + team record as the tiebreaker and leave oladipo out of the starters but from an individual basis he's been every bit as good as those guys

I should note that, while I stand 100% behind the logic that I used when I argued with luc that victor oladipo was having a better season than demar derozan as of our posts, derozan has been utterly ridiculous since then (including in ways that he hasn't even in his best seasons previously, ie 3 pt shooting and passing), and has earned all star starter status for the first time in his career imo

I think he literally had the 50 pt game like a day after I last posted lmao

edit: I still think for the guard spots, oladipo kyrie and derozan are extremely close, you'd prolly go with games played + team record as the tiebreaker and leave oladipo out of the starters but from an individual basis he's been every bit as good as those guys

#24

evgle

1 Frags – +

if lillard isnt an all star this season, i will lose my shit