I remember that whole season where olgha ran perma-pyro
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DanceNumberWiethoofdThe refusal to allow any unlocks which could speed up the game even more (disciplinary action, quick-fix)I mean sometimes that [Quick-fix (red.)] didn't work out too well.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OalWDhYfdeg
Props on linking a 6 year old VOD (August 2013) where a weapon got unbanned the week of the ESEA LAN, so there was no practice with or against it, and having been changed since: most importantly:
- December 17, 2015
- Players can no longer capture objectives while under the effects of Quick-Fix ÜberCharge.
- July 7, 2016
- Changed attributes: ÜberCharge rate reduced to +10% (from +25%)
Thing is that even after those changes it has been tested once or twice in cups, if at all, and even if it wasn't considered a viable option still kept banned, leaving it as a non viable choice for any medic and limiting them only to über or kritz.
@sage bullet sponges = vaccinator, which is also banned
[quote=DanceNumber][quote=Wiethoofd]
The refusal to allow any unlocks which could speed up the game even more (disciplinary action, quick-fix) [/quote]
I mean sometimes that [Quick-fix (red.)] didn't work out too well.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OalWDhYfdeg[/quote]
Props on linking a 6 year old VOD (August 2013) where a weapon got unbanned the week of the ESEA LAN, so there was no practice with or against it, and having been changed since: most importantly:
[list]
[*] [b]December 17, 2015[/b]
- Players can no longer capture objectives while under the effects of Quick-Fix ÜberCharge.
[*] [b]July 7, 2016[/b]
- Changed attributes: ÜberCharge rate reduced to +10% (from +25%)
[/list]
Thing is that even after those changes it has been tested once or twice in cups, if at all, and even if it wasn't considered a viable option still kept banned, leaving it as a non viable choice for any medic and limiting them only to über or kritz.
@sage bullet sponges = vaccinator, which is also banned
The refusal to allow any unlocks which could speed up the game even more (disciplinary action, quick-fix) [/quote]
I mean sometimes that [Quick-fix (red.)] didn't work out too well.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OalWDhYfdeg[/quote]
Props on linking a 6 year old VOD (August 2013) where a weapon got unbanned the week of the ESEA LAN, so there was no practice with or against it, and having been changed since: most importantly:
[list]
[*] [b]December 17, 2015[/b]
- Players can no longer capture objectives while under the effects of Quick-Fix ÜberCharge.
[*] [b]July 7, 2016[/b]
- Changed attributes: ÜberCharge rate reduced to +10% (from +25%)
[/list]
Thing is that even after those changes it has been tested once or twice in cups, if at all, and even if it wasn't considered a viable option still kept banned, leaving it as a non viable choice for any medic and limiting them only to über or kritz.
@sage bullet sponges = vaccinator, which is also banned
quick fix doesn't fit in 6s because of the +40% heal rate, the capping or uber rates changes did nothing to address that
quick fix doesn't fit in 6s because of the +40% heal rate, the capping or uber rates changes did nothing to address that
yea i dont think the not being able to cap part changes the fact that you get an unkillable heavy
yea i dont think the not being able to cap part changes the fact that you get an unkillable heavy
twiikuu is right. The thing about the quick fix is that it's charge is really weak compared to uber. I think you would not be able to push certain lasts with it if an enemy team has a level 2 and good focus fire cause it is very much possible to out damage the quickfix uber healing. The main thing is that ppl would run it to every mid fight for the higher healing. Combo dynamics would be even more centralised around tanking a demo or scout on beam due to how efficient the heals are. It's just a shallow unlock that doesn't add much to the game and if anything it takes away and dumbs down. More raw healing and slightly faster to build at the cost of a much worse uber and worse buffs. lowers the skill ceiling!!!
twiikuu is right. The thing about the quick fix is that it's charge is really weak compared to uber. I think you would not be able to push certain lasts with it if an enemy team has a level 2 and good focus fire cause it is very much possible to out damage the quickfix uber healing. The main thing is that ppl would run it to every mid fight for the higher healing. Combo dynamics would be even more centralised around tanking a demo or scout on beam due to how efficient the heals are. It's just a shallow unlock that doesn't add much to the game and if anything it takes away and dumbs down. More raw healing and slightly faster to build at the cost of a much worse uber and worse buffs. lowers the skill ceiling!!!
I wish lowpander was still alive so I could make certain retards in this thread mad again.
I wish lowpander was still alive so I could make certain retards in this thread mad again.
dbkthis reminds me, ban crossbow
If they revert the scout buff i would be perfectly fine with this.
[quote=dbk]
this reminds me, ban crossbow[/quote]
If they revert the scout buff i would be perfectly fine with this.
this reminds me, ban crossbow[/quote]
If they revert the scout buff i would be perfectly fine with this.
YeeHawRemember when ringo lost to olgha’s perfect pyro?
SpannsI remember that whole season where olgha ran perma-pyro
Not saying Olgha wouldn't be able to be as successful as season 28, but imo one of the main reasons pyro worked is because the detonator was allowed back in season 28. He could just keep spamming the flare and setting people on fire without even hitting you, that's 4k 'free' damage each map. It also doesn't work on every map, 2/3 maps ringo played in the final were pretty good for the pyro (reckoner and gully), they just messed up their bans.
[quote=YeeHaw]Remember when ringo lost to olgha’s perfect pyro?[/quote]
[quote=Spanns]I remember that whole season where olgha ran perma-pyro[/quote]
Not saying Olgha wouldn't be able to be as successful as season 28, but imo one of the main reasons pyro worked is because the detonator was allowed back in season 28. He could just keep spamming the flare and setting people on fire without even hitting you, that's 4k 'free' damage each map. It also doesn't work on every map, 2/3 maps ringo played in the final were pretty good for the pyro (reckoner and gully), they just messed up their bans.
[quote=Spanns]I remember that whole season where olgha ran perma-pyro[/quote]
Not saying Olgha wouldn't be able to be as successful as season 28, but imo one of the main reasons pyro worked is because the detonator was allowed back in season 28. He could just keep spamming the flare and setting people on fire without even hitting you, that's 4k 'free' damage each map. It also doesn't work on every map, 2/3 maps ringo played in the final were pretty good for the pyro (reckoner and gully), they just messed up their bans.
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