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Comanglialol. "Doesn't help in gaming at all" Yeah it doesn't matter, neither does having a 3rd or 4th physical core. Why? Because the vast majority of games don't support more than 2 threads.
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Also my statement on Logical cores for both AMD and Intel isn't technically wrong. I never stated they used the same way to get those logical cores. (which FYI for a thread about a PC build is entirely unnecessary and I shouldn't have too just to be 100% correct)
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^this is what I was refering to, 256bit units are better than than multiple 128bit units in terms of speed.
-edit-
I really like how all I was doing to begin with was not go into a bunch of technical jargon, but some people wanted to be really really technical about logical cores and don't actually help the OP at all.
1. Going by that logic you should buy single cores. Most applications are single-threaded anyway, so a multi-core CPU isn't worth it, right? You don't choose a CPU based on how much power is enough for most applications, you choose it based on how much you need for the most CPU-intensive application that you want to run.
2. AMD doesn't use logical cores at all.
Technically logical cores are what the OS uses and it's 8 logical cores for both the FX-8xxx and the i7s. The AMDs have 8 physical in 4 modules (similar to how intel built quad-cores by putting two dualcores in one package) and the i7s have 4 physical cores.
So technically what you said is wrong.
3. In theory one 256bit Intel core should perform the same as one AMD module when using 256bit instructions because the two 128bit cores in the module will be used together to process the 256bit instructions.
In theory the two 128bit cores in a AMD module should beat a 256bit Intel core when using <=128bit instructions because the intel core can only process one at a time.
The reasons why the Intel cores perform better are Hyperthreading and some other things which result in a vastly higher IPC.
Explanation for those who don't know what IPC are: Instructions per cycle, basically it processes more instructions at the same clock rate than AMD processors.
4. If you didn't want to go into technical jargon, you shouldn't have mentioned "logical cores".
OPs option are pretty much:
Your (comanglia's) build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1kPhk
=Good overall performance in games
+SSD
The same without a SSD and a better GPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1lc3N
-no SSD
+even better performance in games
Or element's build without the SSD: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1lc4y
-no SSD
=Good overall performance in games (some worse and some better than comanglia's build)
+best TF2 performance
[quote=Comanglia]lol. "Doesn't help in gaming at all" Yeah it doesn't matter, neither does having a 3rd or 4th physical core. Why? Because the vast majority of games don't support more than 2 threads.
[...]
Also my statement on Logical cores for both AMD and Intel isn't technically wrong. I never stated they used the same way to get those logical cores. (which FYI for a thread about a PC build is entirely unnecessary and I shouldn't have too just to be 100% correct)
[...]
^this is what I was refering to, 256bit units are better than than multiple 128bit units in terms of speed.
-edit-
I really like how all I was doing to begin with was not go into a bunch of technical jargon, but some people wanted to be really really technical about logical cores and don't actually help the OP at all.[/quote]
1. Going by that logic you should buy single cores. Most applications are single-threaded anyway, so a multi-core CPU isn't worth it, right? You don't choose a CPU based on how much power is enough for most applications, you choose it based on how much you need for the most CPU-intensive application that you want to run.
2. AMD doesn't use logical cores at all.
Technically logical cores are what the OS uses and it's 8 logical cores for both the FX-8xxx and the i7s. The AMDs have 8 physical in 4 modules (similar to how intel built quad-cores by putting two dualcores in one package) and the i7s have 4 physical cores.
So technically what you said is wrong.
3. In theory one 256bit Intel core should perform the same as one AMD module when using 256bit instructions because the two 128bit cores in the module will be used together to process the 256bit instructions.
In theory the two 128bit cores in a AMD module should beat a 256bit Intel core when using <=128bit instructions because the intel core can only process one at a time.
The reasons why the Intel cores perform better are Hyperthreading and some other things which result in a vastly higher IPC.
Explanation for those who don't know what IPC are: Instructions per cycle, basically it processes more instructions at the same clock rate than AMD processors.
4. If you didn't want to go into technical jargon, you shouldn't have mentioned "logical cores".
OPs option are pretty much:
Your (comanglia's) build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1kPhk
=Good overall performance in games
+SSD
The same without a SSD and a better GPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1lc3N
-no SSD
+even better performance in games
Or [url=pcpartpicker.com/p/1kMo0]element's build[/url] without the SSD: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1lc4y
-no SSD
=Good overall performance in games (some worse and some better than comanglia's build)
+best TF2 performance
[...]
Also my statement on Logical cores for both AMD and Intel isn't technically wrong. I never stated they used the same way to get those logical cores. (which FYI for a thread about a PC build is entirely unnecessary and I shouldn't have too just to be 100% correct)
[...]
^this is what I was refering to, 256bit units are better than than multiple 128bit units in terms of speed.
-edit-
I really like how all I was doing to begin with was not go into a bunch of technical jargon, but some people wanted to be really really technical about logical cores and don't actually help the OP at all.[/quote]
1. Going by that logic you should buy single cores. Most applications are single-threaded anyway, so a multi-core CPU isn't worth it, right? You don't choose a CPU based on how much power is enough for most applications, you choose it based on how much you need for the most CPU-intensive application that you want to run.
2. AMD doesn't use logical cores at all.
Technically logical cores are what the OS uses and it's 8 logical cores for both the FX-8xxx and the i7s. The AMDs have 8 physical in 4 modules (similar to how intel built quad-cores by putting two dualcores in one package) and the i7s have 4 physical cores.
So technically what you said is wrong.
3. In theory one 256bit Intel core should perform the same as one AMD module when using 256bit instructions because the two 128bit cores in the module will be used together to process the 256bit instructions.
In theory the two 128bit cores in a AMD module should beat a 256bit Intel core when using <=128bit instructions because the intel core can only process one at a time.
The reasons why the Intel cores perform better are Hyperthreading and some other things which result in a vastly higher IPC.
Explanation for those who don't know what IPC are: Instructions per cycle, basically it processes more instructions at the same clock rate than AMD processors.
4. If you didn't want to go into technical jargon, you shouldn't have mentioned "logical cores".
OPs option are pretty much:
Your (comanglia's) build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1kPhk
=Good overall performance in games
+SSD
The same without a SSD and a better GPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1lc3N
-no SSD
+even better performance in games
Or [url=pcpartpicker.com/p/1kMo0]element's build[/url] without the SSD: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1lc4y
-no SSD
=Good overall performance in games (some worse and some better than comanglia's build)
+best TF2 performance
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