Thanks everyone~
Weve found what we were looking for.
Thanks everyone~
Weve found what we were looking for.
Said LFT in title, instead of team looking for med.
[i][color=red][size=20]Said LFT in title, instead of team looking for med.[/size][/color][/i]
Your team is 3:3 in UGC Steel, don't throw away your money to get stomped in ESEA. It costs like eight bucks a month for premium plus league fees. There are teams with a better record in UGC Silver who wouldn't pull off 4:12 in Open. Keep practicing and improve to the point where you can confidentially put down the cash for something other than just saying "I played in ESEA".
Your team is 3:3 in UGC Steel, don't throw away your money to get stomped in ESEA. It costs like eight bucks a month for premium plus league fees. There are teams with a better record in UGC Silver who wouldn't pull off 4:12 in Open. Keep practicing and improve to the point where you can confidentially put down the cash for something other than just saying "I played in ESEA".
LoopsYour team is 3:3 in UGC Steel, don't throw away your money to get stomped in ESEA.
Thats almost the reason they SHOULD play ESEA. They would get better by playing against better teams. Odds are they will die for morale reasons, so its not for everyone. But I think in the long run if a team wants to stay together regardless of their record it is definitely worth it in the long run. Sure, they could improve until they go into ESEA confidentally, but thats hard to do in a league like UGC, plus they would improve faster anyways. Just my 2c.
[quote=Loops]Your team is 3:3 in UGC Steel, don't throw away your money to get stomped in ESEA.[/quote]
Thats almost the reason they SHOULD play ESEA. They would get better by playing against better teams. Odds are they will die for morale reasons, so its not for everyone. But I think in the long run if a team wants to stay together regardless of their record it is definitely worth it in the long run. Sure, they could improve until they go into ESEA confidentally, but thats hard to do in a league like UGC, plus they would improve faster anyways. Just my 2c.
I'm with leaky.
I wasn't even close to ready for ESEA my first season. Hell, I still might not be, honestly. It's playing against the better players that makes you good. As long as you're confident that you can keep your team together, then go for it. People will leave, but just find the core of your team and stick it out, and you'll be much better because of it.
I'm with leaky.
I wasn't even close to ready for ESEA my first season. Hell, I still might not be, honestly. It's playing against the better players that makes you good. As long as you're confident that you can keep your team together, then go for it. People will leave, but just find the core of your team and stick it out, and you'll be much better because of it.
It always warms my heart (and mason's probably, bring out the sloth GIF) when people want to go into Open.
I went 2-14 in my first season. Those 2? Forfeit wins. My team and I literally had 0 wins that season. But I learned a lot. So, if money and record aren't an issue (and it's understandable if it is, judge those things for you and your team's situations!), absolutely do it.
It always warms my heart (and mason's probably, bring out the sloth GIF) when people want to go into Open.
I went 2-14 in my first season. Those 2? Forfeit wins. My team and I literally had 0 wins that season. But I learned a lot. So, if money and record aren't an issue (and it's understandable if it is, judge those things for you and your team's situations!), absolutely do it.
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With Leaky / Mana on this one. My very first 6's experience was Open S11, with no preparation beforehand aside from Newbie Mixes and on a team with people I didn't know. I simply wanted to play. We went 7-9. more than half being forfeits (win and lose), and our true record without forfeits was like 1-6. Nonetheless, I learned a lot from that first season, said to myself "This was a good test, but now I know I can do more," and that's what kept me going.
If you and your team believe you're prepared with the right attitudes - be good losers, and can afford the costs, there's no reason to not play in ESEA after your current season of UGC.
[spoiler][/spoiler]With Leaky / Mana on this one. My very first 6's experience was Open S11, with no preparation beforehand aside from Newbie Mixes and on a team with people I didn't know. I simply wanted to play. We went 7-9. more than half being forfeits (win and lose), and our true record without forfeits was like 1-6. Nonetheless, I learned a lot from that first season, said to myself "This was a good test, but now I know I can do more," and that's what kept me going.
If you and your team believe you're prepared with the right attitudes - be good losers, and can afford the costs, there's no reason to not play in ESEA after your current season of UGC.
You can still scrim Open teams while playing in UGC or CEVO or whatever other free league pops up. You have access to all of the same practice, and relatively similar league services, even if your official matches are against teams who are around your own skill-level. While playing in Open can get your team moved up to IM, and can even get you prize money, it's essentially wasted cash if you don't do well enough, because even if you aren't registered for a league, you still have access to scrims with all of the teams out there. Pay for ESEA with the intent to excel and get moved up or win money, but play a free league if you don't think you can since, again, you have access to much better teams regardless of what you sign up for. Even if you make major strides by practicing with Open teams, you could still see yourself going 0:16 in ESEA, whereas when you make improvements by practicing against these teams you will definitely see them reflected in your win to loss ratio in lower-level divisions.
Or ignore me and play in Open and dub yourself "an ESEA player" to the people you encounter, I'm just trying to encourage you to save your money and not take the kick to your morale that is being crushed on record.
You can still scrim Open teams while playing in UGC or CEVO or whatever other free league pops up. You have access to all of the same practice, and relatively similar league services, even if your official matches are against teams who are around your own skill-level. While playing in Open can get your team moved up to IM, and can even get you prize money, it's essentially wasted cash if you don't do well enough, because even if you aren't registered for a league, you still have access to scrims with all of the teams out there. Pay for ESEA with the intent to excel and get moved up or win money, but play a free league if you don't think you can since, again, you have access to much better teams regardless of what you sign up for. Even if you make major strides by practicing with Open teams, you could still see yourself going 0:16 in ESEA, whereas when you make improvements by practicing against these teams you will definitely see them reflected in your win to loss ratio in lower-level divisions.
Or ignore me and play in Open and dub yourself "an ESEA player" to the people you encounter, I'm just trying to encourage you to save your money and not take the kick to your morale that is being crushed on record.
LoopsOr ignore me and play in Open and dub yourself "an ESEA player" to the people you encounter,
Putting words in people's mouths. People don't sign up for ESEA to brag to their favorite pubs. You can get the same result with UGC.
Playing against good teams is not the only reason to sign up for ESEA. The approximate cost for a player who doesn't go to open playoffs is $30 for a season. That's worth the investment. You play a season in ESEA to figure out the rules and whitelist. How scheduling a match works, and how to navigate the client and use the servers. You play a season in ESEA because if your team does die, you have a season of ESEA experience to fall back on when you're looking.
Don't pretend like scrimming open teams and then playing a completely different map against teams you don't normally compete against is the same or even close to actually spending a season working out the kinks in ESEA.
BaketheBear, I can lay it out like this. You can get better as a team by playing in UGC Steel or Silver or whatever, or you can make that $30 investment and get better as well. Your team might die because you lost a lot in ESEA. Or your team could die because your players moved on to ESEA without you. My recommendation is that if your end goal is to make a successful ESEA team, then make one. The people who will quit on you when you're losing aren't people who you really want to play with, anyways. Consider your money an investment in finding good teammates. Good luck finding a medic, whether you decide to play in ESEA or not.
[quote=Loops]Or ignore me and play in Open and dub yourself "an ESEA player" to the people you encounter, [/quote]
Putting words in people's mouths. People don't sign up for ESEA to brag to their favorite pubs. You can get the same result with UGC.
Playing against good teams is not the only reason to sign up for ESEA. The approximate cost for a player who doesn't go to open playoffs is $30 for a season. That's worth the investment. You play a season in ESEA to figure out the rules and whitelist. How scheduling a match works, and how to navigate the client and use the servers. You play a season in ESEA because if your team does die, you have a season of ESEA experience to fall back on when you're looking.
Don't pretend like scrimming open teams and then playing a completely different map against teams you don't normally compete against is the same or even close to actually spending a season working out the kinks in ESEA.
BaketheBear, I can lay it out like this. You can get better as a team by playing in UGC Steel or Silver or whatever, or you can make that $30 investment and get better as well. Your team might die because you lost a lot in ESEA. Or your team could die because your players moved on to ESEA without you. My recommendation is that if your end goal is to make a successful ESEA team, then make one. The people who will quit on you when you're losing aren't people who you really want to play with, anyways. Consider your money an investment in finding good teammates. Good luck finding a medic, whether you decide to play in ESEA or not.
Mr_OwlBaketheBear, I can lay it out like this. You can get better as a team by playing in UGC Steel or Silver or whatever, or you can make that $30 investment and get better as well. Your team might die because you lost a lot in ESEA. Or your team could die because your players moved on to ESEA without you. My recommendation is that if your end goal is to make a successful ESEA team, then make one. The people who will quit on you when you're losing aren't people who you really want to play with, anyways. Consider your money an investment in finding good teammates. Good luck finding a medic, whether you decide to play in ESEA or not.
Wow this thread got a bit of attention. The UGC team Im on right now is the team that I have captained(and made). So a first time experience in getting a solid team together. So it was really shaky at first. But I am full aware of the expectations of ESEA. I am attracted to the bit more serious atmosphere around the competitive scene in Tf2 ESEA. And I do agree that itll still be great practice even if we get stomped. I dont mind. Im not coming blindly into this. Me and the people that are coming into ESEA are aware of the ins and outs of the level of difficulty and time people put into this and we will commit.
LoopsOr ignore me and play in Open and dub yourself "an ESEA player" to the people you encounter, I'm just trying to encourage you to save your money and not take the kick to your morale that is being crushed on record.
I dont really think it sensible that just by joining some league automatically will qualify you a good player. I, and my friends, just want to step up our game a little.
[quote=Mr_Owl]BaketheBear, I can lay it out like this. You can get better as a team by playing in UGC Steel or Silver or whatever, or you can make that $30 investment and get better as well. Your team might die because you lost a lot in ESEA. Or your team could die because your players moved on to ESEA without you. My recommendation is that if your end goal is to make a successful ESEA team, then make one. The people who will quit on you when you're losing aren't people who you really want to play with, anyways. Consider your money an investment in finding good teammates. Good luck finding a medic, whether you decide to play in ESEA or not.[/quote]
Wow this thread got a bit of attention. The UGC team Im on right now is the team that I have captained(and made). So a first time experience in getting a solid team together. So it was really shaky at first. But I am full aware of the expectations of ESEA. I am attracted to the bit more serious atmosphere around the competitive scene in Tf2 ESEA. And I do agree that itll still be great practice even if we get stomped. I dont mind. Im not coming blindly into this. Me and the people that are coming into ESEA are aware of the ins and outs of the level of difficulty and time people put into this and we will commit.
[quote=Loops]Or ignore me and play in Open and dub yourself "an ESEA player" to the people you encounter, I'm just trying to encourage you to save your money and not take the kick to your morale that is being crushed on record.[/quote]
I dont really think it sensible that just by joining some league automatically will qualify you a good player. I, and my friends, just want to step up our game a little.
Hey there.
I'm kinda new to the scene. Played 2-3 scrims for ugc steel as backup med, loved it. Looking to get on an open team. Dedicated to improving. Not bothered by losing really. Generally available from 6pm-11pm pst mon-thurs.
My only problem is I won't be available until Nov 15th and then I have to work out some stuff in my schedule...but I should be able to make it to Dec.
pros
-friendly
-can take objective criticism
-always looking to improve
cons
-kinda new, I guess?
-don't spend much time in mumble since working(I'll be there for scrims/matches though)
http://steamcommunity.com/id/NFS2SE/
Add me if you're interested.
Hey there.
I'm kinda new to the scene. Played 2-3 scrims for ugc steel as backup med, loved it. Looking to get on an open team. Dedicated to improving. Not bothered by losing really. Generally available from 6pm-11pm pst mon-thurs.
My only problem is I won't be available until Nov 15th and then I have to work out some stuff in my schedule...but I should be able to make it to Dec.
pros
-friendly
-can take objective criticism
-always looking to improve
cons
-kinda new, I guess?
-don't spend much time in mumble since working(I'll be there for scrims/matches though)
http://steamcommunity.com/id/NFS2SE/
Add me if you're interested.
it brings a tear to my eye when i see new medic players. god bless
it brings a tear to my eye when i see new medic players. god bless