400 dpm less and only 1000 more damage than the next highest player isn't even close to doing 4k+ mroe damage than the next player

Those aren't really similar stats at all, you also didn't have 20 more kills than the next person

I'm sorry I'd like to direct everyone's attention to podgy's video on bo4r after that insane 28-2 record as Sniper on Upward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-aS-1WwFik

Gonna just copy/paste my comment on there then.

"You have to remember with the STV that the snipers scope is actually 4 inches lower than it is in the actual game, so in that last shot it may have appeared like it was a fishy shot, he actually saw your head in his POV. You also have to remember that you didnt really switch up your sniping spots at all, so after the 2nd time he sniped you in main he probably thought, "Oh, hes probably gonna peek main again"."

I should just say this... With LMAOBOX Premium you can have a client that you open up and log into your account to play with the hack. If you don't want to hack that day, you don't open the client. If I were to stream, I wouldn't log into my client to show everyone my hacks... A stream is meaningless to anything hackusation worthy. I'm sure a lot of the people watching the videos hardly even spend the time watching them... That's ok really, go ahead.

With LMAOBOX Premium you can set your trigger bot to any button you want. The trigger bot does not look suspicious at all and you could get away with anything...

Sorry but a lot of people believe this is it. I know how a hack actually works and a free version of LMAOBOX isnt it.

What you said has nothing to do with my comment, and I know how LMAOBOX works. But there is footage that he has recorded HIMSELF of him playing on lakeside on a webcam, and from what I saw there was nothing fishy, here were the logs from that match as well, http://logs.tf/935209?highlight=76561197974871380

EDIT: Also, triggerbots are usually fairly obvious, as people who use them have telltale patterns on how they aim, such as only aiming for the head and never going for a bodyshot, and waving their mouse around the model to get the triggerbot to activate.

Dude, you didn't read a word I said... You can stream without actually opening up the client from LMAOBOX. I could be exactly like bo4r do a full body camera and mouse camera head camera, etc. However, I don't open up my client and start hacking. You don't know how LMAOBOX works because you don't know that it runs on a client.

I'll be rather blatant now. I've used LMAOBOX Premium and part of my UGC ban was on that remark. I have 4 VAC banned alts that had LMAOBOX Free on them. However, when I had LMAOBOX Premium I could get away with everything. I managed to play a scrim with the hack and not get accused once even though I had Headshot only on.

EDIT: When I used it, I opened up the client and it prompted me to log into Steam. I logged in and then it would take me to my Steam and everything. I would open up TF2 and setup my hack the way I wanted and it would be done! You could also hack on Premium accounts (non F2P).

EZ.

Sorry team.

Its like you've never been to this thread before, I KNOW how it works. And from what I saw from bo4rs POVs steers me away from the fact that he is hacking. Maybe you should take a look at them yourself as well.

fucking lmao

Read the edit.

Doesnt change what I said.

It doesn't because I am not a Mod or Admin on TF.TV. However, what I was saying is that a lot of the people in this thread don't seem to understand how the actual hacking program works. When I had walls I would know where everyone was and I could make it look real cool because apparently I've played TF2 for 4 years or something.

Except people with lots of exp in the game have been caught before, look at Seven, Mike from IFA, Rondego, Mittens, and the like.

Heavy Whuppins Guy, iShank etc etc, what's your point? Suddenly bo4r walks in with no experience and he's a Platinum Sniper?

serenity do you have any proof of bo4r hacking? if so post it, saying "you don't understand" over and over doesn't help.

ty fatswimdude

I'm sorry man, I posted a video from Podgy. The last time I experienced bo4r was like 6 months ago.

EDIT: SORRY, and even then he was pretty solid went like 50-10 or something.

ok ur right add me

OK, I found the logs of my first real experience with bo4r, I don't have the old POV.

Ask someone who may have it http://logs.tf/648347?highlight=76561198042560225
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/332419

Guys, I have bo4rs POVs, their Comms, and his recording of his hands and Monitor while he plays.
I'll look at it later but they gave it to me without me even asking this time.

Seriously, you kids need to settle down.
Getting all hysterical over an STV which STVS are KNOWN for having glitches when speccing snipers is stupid. Calm down.
Also, all that shit you said about lmaobox is not the least bit relevant to anything 89zombies said.

Re-fucking-lax, man.

I dont appear to have the ability to get an STV from the SS

Yeah I saw that it doesn't have a dl link. We may never knowww.

Oh my.... "and his recording of his hands and Monitor while he plays."

Like I said, I could deny opening my client that day of the recording and not actually hack. You literally don't understand that it's possible and that LMAOBOX doesn't stay open all day long..

Bo4r has continued to use a webcam to record his matches, but he sends admins the local files instead of streaming them (bad internet i guess). Up to him if he wants to put it online. The webcam is overexposed and it's hard to make everything out, but what i can see confirms that there are no overlays of any kind that would provide cheat assistance. I'm rewinding to look at where people should be behind walls, and I can't tell what he could possibly be using to determine the position of other players. Lots of calls from his team. They know bo4r is their best player, and they play off him well.

The only way to wall hack that i can imagine is that he has a third monitor with a radar on it to the the left of his other two monitors, but I don't think that's even possible. Or maybe someone else on the team is wallhacking, and communicating exact sniper positions to bo4r through Morse code light flashes somewhere off-screen in addition to the mumble comms.

Smobo I have a lot of respect for you believe it or not.

There are multiple instances where he knows where someone is behind a wall and he kills them pretty easily and I know it didn't happen hundreds of times. When I would play regularly without the hacks it would be pretty easy to tell with some solid gamesense that someone was behind a wall. But why is bo4r just barely playing UGC even though he had 10 years apparently to start playing..

EDIT: When he did come into UGC he's suddenly Plat level? That's what doesnt make sense to me too much. I guess he just played Sniper for 10 years straight.

what the hell do you want, dude?

given the terrible level of witch-hunting in this thread just from logs and stvs, you would probably act surprised that bo4r doesnt just up and invite people to his house to watch him play and scrape his computer. he gave the AC team for that league all they asked for. who the fuck are you to be leading a brigade?

you admitted to hacking, dude. i don't get what high ground you think you're on.

Do you even listen to yourself?
"HE WAS HACKING IN THIS MATCH! Just...not when he was recording himself actually playing the match with a webcam...or in the demo....BUT HE WAS HACKING!...somehow..."

You're not making any valid points, just regurgitating nonsense over and over. Find something useful like actual evidence that doesn't require citations from your shady past as a mysterious cheater.
Could you stop replying? Please?

I haven't said I'm on the high ground? I'm just saying I think I would know how it works because I have used it before. I mean if he wants he could just screenshot his documents and just put this all to rest?

Brooky you just barely came into the spotlight not that long ago chill

Sure dude I'll stop. Good luck to all who care about the hacking boar and good luck to all others lmao. Waste of time.

YOU ARENT IN ANY SPOTLIGHT EITHER