have u played the game its not even that bad wtf, its now about conditional wins, close quarters is better suited for a4 and mid-long range is for the a1

m4a1-s [*]

I like the new update but now my fps seems to drop horribly. Before the update on 1280 by 960 black bars I was getting 150+ fps. Now with these same settings I'm getting like 60 to 90, and way lower during firefights.

I don't know if you're serious or joking. The m4a1-s is pretty much same, you can still two tap and get easy kill plus it still got the element of surprise with silenced bullets...just adapt, it would be worse if it needed more than 2 bullets to kill someone...

u were able to that b4 aswell

not to this extreme, i just find it funny they fixed it in source, and broke it again in go rofl

It is not anywhere near the same as now u cant get away with spraying at his chest and hitting everything and dont forget that u tap faster than u hold down the fire button Its a huge nerf and everyone pretty much will stop using it untill they either revert it or change something

It's a good day to be an m4a4 user

Apparently the armor pen change didn't actually change in the patch? I guess the gun is still usable in that case for long range tapping. With the penetration change it would take a headshot and two chest shots to kill at any range beyond ~t stairs to top mid inferno.

I'm gonna be switching back to the m4a4. I'd been holding out on it until every one of my teammates bitched me out for not being able to drop them m4a1 but now they're just gonna have to deal with it.

It is and it wasn't a weapon designed to spray, but more to control your shots. The fire-rate of the weapon, as its now is around 600rpm, which equal to the rpm of the AK47.

I like how it's not the best 1v1 gun in the whole game now. Might make entry fragging actually more fun.

Is the fire rate as big of a deal as my friend thinks it is? "ITLL TAKE TWICE AS MANY HEADSHOTS AT THE SAME FIRE RATE AS THE AK"

well cant comment on the how the RPM is compared to AK doesnt feel like it but that might just be because of new change and aint used to it and i dont know the numbers for it, but i can say that with the little recoil there were on the weapon made it a spray gun but u already answered that yourself in that comment
EDIT: on another note its not the worlds best gun next to the AWP of course to hold a corner anymore which could be consider nice

yes because u could hold a corner and shoot basicly 4 bullets before the enemy with almost any other gun could shoot 1 bullet, in my opinion u could revert the RoF but keep rest of the changes and it could make for a balance between the 2 M4s just my opinion idk

i mean

is 10% ACTUALLY a big deal rofl

how often do you and an enemy fire on the same tick and then 2shot each other?

this is how they nerf ct

well only reasoning for using m4a1 now is for silencer and that just simply isnt good enough

it does the same damage and has a smaller spread

its still laser gun pew pew pew die

no

spread is like a mini ak now