For real though why are guns still legal in america? It's a joke that they still haven't updated their laws to the 21st century. Over here in Scotland in 1996 a man walked into a school with guns he obtained legally and killed sixteen 5 year olds. We then decided that it might be a good idea to completely ban gun ownership since it is pointless and it has made a huge difference in the UK. Guns only cause more deaths and nowadays over here we only really kill each other with knifes, and its a lot harder to kill people with knives. Sure you can get guns illegally if you really want them and shootings like these will always happen but the thing is that banning guns drastically reduces gun violence. So many lives will be saved if america wake the fuck up, stop being absolute idiots and look at the statistics and what other countries are doing.
I don't know if I'm more upset over the tragedy itself or the fact that this keeps on happening so frequently.
sheepy_dogs_handFor real though why are guns still legal in america?
Russia banned guns and has 3x the homicide rate.
It isn't guns that cause trouble. Americans just have a shit mental health system (made worse by a culture that worships violence) and there isn't enough screening or any training required to own a gun.
As a Hoxhaist i believe that the masses should be armed. However common sense dictates that you should try to keep arms out of the hands of the criminally insane.
Russia banned guns and has 3x the homicide rate.
It isn't guns that cause trouble. Americans just have a shit mental health system (made worse by a culture that worships violence) and there isn't enough screening or any training required to own a gun.
As a Hoxhaist i believe that the masses should be armed. However common sense dictates that you should try to keep arms out of the hands of the criminally insane.
sheepy_dogs_handanti gun
If someone wants to use a gun to commit murder they're going to find a way to obtain guns, legally or otherwise. Banning guns just punishes the people who collect them or use them for hunting, usually abiding by the law. its our media that thrives on sensationalist headlines to make money and the masses eat it up. some psychopath realizes he could be remembered forever if he were to murder enough people, the news shows his name and reports on the case daily for a few months, he gets caught, the cycle repeats.
If someone wants to use a gun to commit murder they're going to find a way to obtain guns, legally or otherwise. Banning guns just punishes the people who collect them or use them for hunting, usually abiding by the law. its our media that thrives on sensationalist headlines to make money and the masses eat it up. some psychopath realizes he could be remembered forever if he were to murder enough people, the news shows his name and reports on the case daily for a few months, he gets caught, the cycle repeats.
Screwballsheepy_dogs_handFor real though why are guns still legal in america?Russia banned guns and has 3x the homicide rate.
It isn't guns that cause trouble. Americans just have a shit mental health system (made worse by a culture that worships violence) and there isn't enough screening or any training required to own a gun.
As a Hoxhaist i believe that the masses should be armed. However common sense dictates that you should try to keep arms out of the hands of the criminally insane.
That russia statement is so dumb... Since russia has a huge alcohol problem and guns are allowed to be carried for self defense, exactly the thing the US claims their guns are for. Maybe look at australia who had a similar gun problem like you do and actually enforced it really strictly and the homicides rates went down dramatically, just liie any other first world country. So stop just making shit up.
Russia banned guns and has 3x the homicide rate.
It isn't guns that cause trouble. Americans just have a shit mental health system (made worse by a culture that worships violence) and there isn't enough screening or any training required to own a gun.
As a Hoxhaist i believe that the masses should be armed. However common sense dictates that you should try to keep arms out of the hands of the criminally insane.[/quote]
That russia statement is so dumb... Since russia has a huge alcohol problem and guns are allowed to be carried for self defense, exactly the thing the US claims their guns are for. Maybe look at australia who had a similar gun problem like you do and actually enforced it really strictly and the homicides rates went down dramatically, just liie any other first world country. So stop just making shit up.
Mental health can also deteriorate after you legally buy a whole load of guns, screening will do nothing in that case.
Nonetheless I think that's a good first step, and I'm sure you won't give up your guns easily, but I think it has to be done at some point when these things happen all the time.
Nonetheless I think that's a good first step, and I'm sure you won't give up your guns easily, but I think it has to be done at some point when these things happen all the time.
TwistedI don't know if I'm more upset over the tragedy itself or the fact that this keeps on happening so frequently.
I think I'm more upset that I'm no longer surprised.
I think I'm more upset that I'm no longer surprised.
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Wow, Political Correctness seems like a really bad idea now.
Wow, Political Correctness seems like a really bad idea now.
ScrewballRussia banned guns and has 3x the homicide rate.
Yeah but thats because of the people in russia. Why not look for countries who aren't russia. Maybe the UK for example. Or whatever other countries have strict gun laws and how they no longer have frequent mass shootings in schools/public and violence in gangster areas. Black gangsters killing each other more because of how easy it acquire guns. If people wanna kill people so badly they will. but guns make it easier so if they are banned then less people will die.
There is no good reason for guns to be allowed. They are machines used to make it easier to kill people. There is no good reason for someone other than the police to carry them. Also killing animals for fun is disgusting, Please america get rid of your guns. They are doing so much more harm that good,
Russia banned guns and has 3x the homicide rate.
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Yeah but thats because of the people in russia. Why not look for countries who aren't russia. Maybe the UK for example. Or whatever other countries have strict gun laws and how they no longer have frequent mass shootings in schools/public and violence in gangster areas. Black gangsters killing each other more because of how easy it acquire guns. If people wanna kill people so badly they will. but guns make it easier so if they are banned then less people will die.
There is no good reason for guns to be allowed. They are machines used to make it easier to kill people. There is no good reason for someone other than the police to carry them. Also killing animals for fun is disgusting, Please america get rid of your guns. They are doing so much more harm that good,
Aa dozen poeple die, and the speculation starts, "live stream available here". "Who do you think it was, muslims terrorists or white psycho kids"." This shouldn't happen if noone has guns besides police", said one, the other said: "this wouldnt happened if everyone had guns", and so the quacking of the ducks begin. "Did he set a record": Asked one, etc and so the everyone is entertained or in fear for a few days, until the next run of the show.
Stay tuned!
Stay tuned!
sheepy_dogs_handThere is no good reason for guns to be allowed. They are machines used to make it easier to kill people.
Some people need to die.
There is no good reason for someone other than the police to carry them.
How about for defending yourself from said fascist police?
Also killing animals for fun is disgusting,
Agreed, however that is pretty irrelevant to the reason why the people should be armed.
Please america get rid of your guns. They are doing so much more harm that good,
In america yes. That has more to do with Americans than it has to do with guns.
There is no good reason for guns to be allowed. They are machines used to make it easier to kill people.[/quote] Some people need to die.[quote] There is no good reason for someone other than the police to carry them.[/quote] How about for defending yourself from said fascist police? [quote] Also killing animals for fun is disgusting,[/quote] Agreed, however that is pretty irrelevant to the reason why the people should be armed.[quote] Please america get rid of your guns. They are doing so much more harm that good,[/quote] In america yes. That has more to do with Americans than it has to do with guns.
Screwballsheepy_dogs_handThere is no good reason for guns to be allowed. They are machines used to make it easier to kill people.Some people need to die.There is no good reason for someone other than the police to carry them.How about for defending yourself from said fascist police?
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There is no good reason for guns to be allowed. They are machines used to make it easier to kill people.[/quote] Some people need to die.[quote] There is no good reason for someone other than the police to carry them.[/quote] How about for defending yourself from said fascist police?[/quote]
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deykuzorluxorI honestly hope ISIS is not involved.
Why would ISIS be involved? They have nothing against the developmentally disabled. This is just a hate crime with a sick agenda, like most domestic shootings.... And it's really really disgusting,
Please stop spreading misinfomation. ISIS does have something about disabled people...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-militants-are-using-mentally-challenged-children-as-suicide-bombers-and-crucifying-others-says-10024847.html
Why would ISIS be involved? They have nothing against the developmentally disabled. This is just a hate crime with a sick agenda, like most domestic shootings.... And it's really really disgusting,[/quote]
Please stop spreading misinfomation. ISIS does have something about disabled people...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-militants-are-using-mentally-challenged-children-as-suicide-bombers-and-crucifying-others-says-10024847.html
So you are saying people should have guns in america to shoot the fascist police? Who are there to protect you from people shooting you.
DamnEasySo you are saying people should have guns in america to shoot the fascist police? Who are there to protect you from people shooting you.
You seem to be under the impression that the police exist to protect people.
You seem to be under the impression that the police exist to protect people.
I live in Redlands, and am about 10 minutes from the shootings. My girlfriend works right next to hospitality, I was terrified yesterday. They locked all their doors and hid in hopes no one would try to break in. They shut down all the schools, and some roads to that area. My girlfriend's co-workers friend was in on the meeting that they originally shot up. She stepped out to use the restroom, and as she finished her business she heard firing. Hid in a corner in the bathroom, and called my girlfriend's friend asking her what to do. Pretty crazy
ur gunlaws are insane and these tragedies kill 5 times people than they would without guns because ur backwards country won't change.
I was at an appointment yesterday less than 2 miles away from the shooting, office didn't shut down pretty crazy.
ScrewballDamnEasySo you are saying people should have guns in america to shoot the fascist police? Who are there to protect you from people shooting you.You seem to be under the impression that the police exist to protect people.
Screwb... seriously... and dude you're like 25 and living with your parents, what the fuck do you have to fear? Have you ever even talked to a police officer before?
You seem to be under the impression that the police exist to protect people.[/quote]
Screwb... seriously... and dude you're like 25 and living with your parents, what the fuck do you have to fear? Have you ever even talked to a police officer before?
"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
The only way to stop a bad guy with a suicide vest is a good guy with a suicide vest
The only way to stop a bad guy with a suicide vest is a good guy with a suicide vest
IcyWindsheepy_dogs_handanti gun
If someone wants to use a gun to commit murder they're going to find a way to obtain guns, legally or otherwise. Banning guns just punishes the people who collect them or use them for hunting, usually abiding by the law. its our media that thrives on sensationalist headlines to make money and the masses eat it up. some psychopath realizes he could be remembered forever if he were to murder enough people, the news shows his name and reports on the case daily for a few months, he gets caught, the cycle repeats.
I don't think gun collecters actually have to suffer at all from this, since guns are useless without ammunition, old guns (which are usually the ones being collected) don't actually have to be able to shoot anyway since they're for display. And honestly comparing people their passion for collecting firearms to innocent people dying isn't a hard decision to make.
If someone wants to use a gun to commit murder they're going to find a way to obtain guns, legally or otherwise. Banning guns just punishes the people who collect them or use them for hunting, usually abiding by the law. its our media that thrives on sensationalist headlines to make money and the masses eat it up. some psychopath realizes he could be remembered forever if he were to murder enough people, the news shows his name and reports on the case daily for a few months, he gets caught, the cycle repeats.[/quote]
I don't think gun collecters actually have to suffer at all from this, since guns are useless without ammunition, old guns (which are usually the ones being collected) don't actually have to be able to shoot anyway since they're for display. And honestly comparing people their passion for collecting firearms to innocent people dying isn't a hard decision to make.
Outlawing guns would have been a good idea long ago but now it seems it's too late as getting a gun can be done easily. Outlawing guns might decrease the amount of shooting in cities but in mass shootings the killer probably has thought out about their actions and will have weapons in time to carry their actions out.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html
phone records of him talking to people on suspected terrorist list
also him and his wife had 12 pipe bombs at their house
phone records of him talking to people on suspected terrorist list
also him and his wife had 12 pipe bombs at their house
They were also heavily armed with several assualt rifles not to mention the police not knowing where they were for 3 hours
sheepy_dogs_handFor real though why are guns still legal in america? It's a joke that they still haven't updated their laws to the 21st century. Over here in Scotland in 1996 a man walked into a school with guns he obtained legally and killed sixteen 5 year olds. We then decided that it might be a good idea to completely ban gun ownership since it is pointless and it has made a huge difference in the UK.
Not entirely true, the extension of the law applies to banning virtually all handguns, (automatic weapons already banned), only certain types of weapons are allowed and you need a licence to own one here. With that said the Gun Control laws in the UK are a lot tighter which evidence suggests is likely to reduce the amount of homicides and mass shootings.
When I read about these mass shootings I do end up dumbfounded how no law has been enacted for tighter gun control laws.
Not entirely true, the extension of the law applies to banning virtually all handguns, (automatic weapons already banned), only certain types of weapons are allowed and you need a licence to own one here. With that said the Gun Control laws in the UK are a lot tighter which evidence suggests is likely to reduce the amount of homicides and mass shootings.
When I read about these mass shootings I do end up dumbfounded how no law has been enacted for tighter gun control laws.
isn't cali one of the more gun-control-heavy states anyways?
it's pretty roundly a terrorist attack, though the fact that even federal intel knows nothing about the context beyond that is a bit odd
(also, quick reminder that misinformation is always inevitable)
it's pretty roundly a terrorist attack, though the fact that even federal intel knows nothing about the context beyond that is a bit odd
(also, [url=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/california-shooting-misinformation-bin-ardogan-151203061101422.html]quick reminder that misinformation is always inevitable[/url])
sheepy_dogs_handScrewballRussia banned guns and has 3x the homicide rate.
Yeah but thats because of the people in russia. Why not look for countries who aren't russia. Maybe the UK for example. Or whatever other countries have strict gun laws and how they no longer have frequent mass shootings in schools/public and violence in gangster areas. Black gangsters killing each other more because of how easy it acquire guns. If people wanna kill people so badly they will. but guns make it easier so if they are banned then less people will die.
There is no good reason for guns to be allowed. They are machines used to make it easier to kill people. There is no good reason for someone other than the police to carry them. Also killing animals for fun is disgusting, Please america get rid of your guns. They are doing so much more harm that good,
You're not only uneducated about the situation but you're also bigoted.
Fact: 93% of guns used in crimes are obtained illegally (i.e., not at gun stores or gun shows). 37
Also in your precious UK home invasion numbers shot straight up when you guys banned guns.. Do you realize why people target schools, hospitals, and the likes for these mass shootings? People in there are unarmed, just like some guy with a knife breaking into your apartment where you have no weapons to defend yourself with because the government knows what's best for you
Russia banned guns and has 3x the homicide rate.
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Yeah but thats because of the people in russia. Why not look for countries who aren't russia. Maybe the UK for example. Or whatever other countries have strict gun laws and how they no longer have frequent mass shootings in schools/public and violence in gangster areas. Black gangsters killing each other more because of how easy it acquire guns. If people wanna kill people so badly they will. but guns make it easier so if they are banned then less people will die.
There is no good reason for guns to be allowed. They are machines used to make it easier to kill people. There is no good reason for someone other than the police to carry them. Also killing animals for fun is disgusting, Please america get rid of your guns. They are doing so much more harm that good,[/quote]
You're not only [url=http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/crime-and-guns/]uneducated[/url] about the situation but you're also bigoted.
[quote]Fact: 93% of guns used in crimes are obtained illegally (i.e., not at gun stores or gun shows). 37[/quote]
Also in your precious UK home invasion numbers shot straight up when you guys banned guns.. Do you realize why people target schools, hospitals, and the likes for these mass shootings? People in there are unarmed, just like some guy with a knife breaking into your apartment where you have no weapons to defend yourself with because the government knows what's best for you