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TF2 Mouse Issues
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For the last year or so, I've had on and off mouse issues. I have all the mouse acceleration things disabled, MarkC mouse fix and all that stuff is done. But my mouse feels almost like a controller instead of a sharp precise mouse. If you ever have felt your mouse movement delay when your FPS drops, it's like that but all the time. This has been happening on multiple mice, but doesn't happen on CSGO or any other FPS. I use a Logitech g502, 1000dpi at 1024x768. I've tried switching dxlevels and basically everything else imaginable. I get a constant 100fps too so I don't think it's an fps issue since it happens in Mge and offline servers. Id appreciate any suggestions thanks!!

Edit: I have all the correct in-game settings, console commands, Windows mouse acceleration disabled, register edited, as well as launch options too. So there is no possible way it's a mouse acceleration issue

For the last year or so, I've had on and off mouse issues. I have all the mouse acceleration things disabled, MarkC mouse fix and all that stuff is done. But my mouse feels almost like a controller instead of a sharp precise mouse. If you ever have felt your mouse movement delay when your FPS drops, it's like that but all the time. This has been happening on multiple mice, but doesn't happen on CSGO or any other FPS. I use a Logitech g502, 1000dpi at 1024x768. I've tried switching dxlevels and basically everything else imaginable. I get a constant 100fps too so I don't think it's an fps issue since it happens in Mge and offline servers. Id appreciate any suggestions thanks!!

Edit: I have all the correct in-game settings, console commands, Windows mouse acceleration disabled, register edited, as well as launch options too. So there is no possible way it's a mouse acceleration issue
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whats ur refresh rate

whats ur refresh rate
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seems like it's a software issue

1 - make sure vsync is off (mat_vsync 0 as well as off/application controlled in graphics driver)
2 - try uncapping your fps
3 - test fullscreen vs windowed
4 - if none of these work, type differences into console, copypaste output into a pastebin, and link it here, along with your system info, graphics driver settings for tf2, and any windows tweaks or firmware that you have installed

also just fyi, all those mousefixes and launch options and stuff are completely unnecessary

seems like it's a software issue

1 - make sure vsync is off (mat_vsync 0 as well as off/application controlled in graphics driver)
2 - try uncapping your fps
3 - test fullscreen vs windowed
4 - if none of these work, type differences into console, copypaste output into a pastebin, and link it here, along with your system info, graphics driver settings for tf2, and any windows tweaks or firmware that you have installed

also just fyi, all those mousefixes and launch options and stuff are completely unnecessary
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refresh rate is 60hz

And yeah my fps_max is 0 and vsync is off
I'm away from PC right now so I'll paste the outputs later

refresh rate is 60hz

And yeah my fps_max is 0 and vsync is off
I'm away from PC right now so I'll paste the outputs later
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here is the info and stuff you asked for.

http://pastebin.com/nBZcCayQ

Specs: (its a laptop but its a pretty decent laptop)

Toshiba Satellite P855
Intel Core i5-3230M @ 2.60 GHz
8.00 GB ram
64-bit
Windows 8.1
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 4000

I don't think i have any windows tweaks/firmware that i know of.

here is the info and stuff you asked for.

http://pastebin.com/nBZcCayQ

Specs: (its a laptop but its a pretty decent laptop)

Toshiba Satellite P855
Intel Core i5-3230M @ 2.60 GHz
8.00 GB ram
64-bit
Windows 8.1
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 4000

I don't think i have any windows tweaks/firmware that i know of.
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there's nothing glaringly wrong with your config, I'd definitely assume it were dodgy hardware/overheating if other games had the same problem. have you tried reinstalling tf2? also try checking your core temps, a lot of laptops throttle performance really hard when they overheat, introducing a ton of i/o latency. maybe try putting it on high performance mode instead of balanced/powersaving?

there's nothing glaringly wrong with your config, I'd definitely assume it were dodgy hardware/overheating if other games had the same problem. have you tried reinstalling tf2? also try checking your core temps, a lot of laptops throttle performance really hard when they overheat, introducing a ton of i/o latency. maybe try putting it on high performance mode instead of balanced/powersaving?
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Don't you have another GPU? (non-integrated)

Don't you have another GPU? (non-integrated)
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No it's only integrated

And all my settings are set to performance

I've been messing around with it a bit, and it seems to be perfectly fine for a few minutes when i boot TF2 up, but loses some of its accuracy as I continue to play. Again, I get a constant 100+ fps. How would i deal with a heating issue assuming it was a heat issue?

No it's only integrated

And all my settings are set to performance

I've been messing around with it a bit, and it seems to be perfectly fine for a few minutes when i boot TF2 up, but loses some of its accuracy as I continue to play. Again, I get a constant 100+ fps. How would i deal with a heating issue assuming it was a heat issue?
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sounds like a pre-rendered frames issue

sounds like a pre-rendered frames issue
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#10
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How would one deal with a pre-load frames issue. My cl_forcepreload is at 0

How would one deal with a pre-load frames issue. My cl_forcepreload is at 0
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PontHow would one deal with a pre-load frames issue. My cl_forcepreload is at 0

Usually you have to set it on a driver level to force it if the game isn't behaving correctly. Unfortunately I don't think it's possible to change a setting like this with the Intel drivers.

[quote=Pont]How would one deal with a pre-load frames issue. My cl_forcepreload is at 0[/quote]
Usually you have to set it on a driver level to force it if the game isn't behaving correctly. Unfortunately I don't think it's possible to change a setting like this with the Intel drivers.
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99% sure your computer is overheating - fits with the getting worse over time, and prerendered frames wouldn't make sense because most of the time that setting doesn't even affect latency (and it doesn't kick in gradually).

1 - if your computer is 1+ years old and you've never opened it up and cleaned out the dust - do it. it doesn't take that long and it can make a world of difference.
2 - it seems like you've got this down but make sure you don't have any battery-saving features enabled (sometimes these are hard to find), and check that there aren't any resource-hogging processes running while you play. also try running fullscreen if you don't already.
3 - capping your framerate will probably stop the overheating issue, but obviously you don't want to cap it too low, so it's a bit of a compromise
4 - a laptop cooling pad should help, but costs money

that's about all you can effectively do, other than upgrading your computer

99% sure your computer is overheating - fits with the getting worse over time, and prerendered frames wouldn't make sense because most of the time that setting doesn't even affect latency (and it doesn't kick in gradually).

1 - if your computer is 1+ years old and you've never opened it up and cleaned out the dust - do it. it doesn't take that long and it can make a world of difference.
2 - it seems like you've got this down but make sure you don't have any battery-saving features enabled (sometimes these are hard to find), and check that there aren't any resource-hogging processes running while you play. also try running fullscreen if you don't already.
3 - capping your framerate will probably stop the overheating issue, but obviously you don't want to cap it too low, so it's a bit of a compromise
4 - a laptop cooling pad should help, but costs money

that's about all you can effectively do, other than upgrading your computer
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Yeah odds are I'll just buy a decent cooling pad. Thanks for everyone's help! It's appreciated

Yeah odds are I'll just buy a decent cooling pad. Thanks for everyone's help! It's appreciated
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