1. This game has an insanely close community of like 300 people most of the time. If you want your big defining trait to be "that guy who posts racist shit on tf.tv" no one will stop you, but i don't see why you'd close those doors when its clear you're not winning any popularity here.

2. Either he's trying to get trans people banned because they're a hazard or he's trying to get them banned because he doesn't like them. The first has been proven to be stupid, and the second is literally just banning things because you don't like them.

the funniest thing to me is that theres people with trap fetishes that complain about trans people making them feel uncomfortable

purple hair

DELET THIS

LOL. I will admit that the first or second chick in that trans social video experiments voice sounded too dramatized but some of the others sounded legit. However saying all his videos are fake is really naive. Like in the Trump & Bernie sign video, you really think he called up a dozen people and staged it all? A random skater dude, guy on a bike, and the people exiting the off ramp he was called them up and was like "yo help me out, come by at 2:45 PM in the left turn lane on this off ramp on exit 568 and you'll see me holding a sign, flip me off and keep on driving." You are entitled to your opinion, but I don't believe all his videos are faked and completely staged.

Some people find men in womens clothing and makeup to make them uncomfortable since it's not normal. I've already said I personally don't have a problem with it but it's normal for some people to not be comfortable with it. You shouldn't antagonize people because of it, as long as they aren't insulting the trans person then it doesn't matter if they don't feel comfortable with it and would rather not be around them.

Pretty sure there is a lot more separating trans people from normal people than that, what about their cloths and makeup and voice and brains? What a silly thing to say.

Super triggered haha. :) I've had a grin and a smile on my face and had a few good laughs while posting in this thread. I have literally zero hard feelings against anyone that has posted here, despite not agreeing with the majority of whats posted. The only reason I even bothered to call out the personal insults is just simply because it is not conducive towards a discussion, and just comes off as tacky IMO. That's fine that you don't consider yourself a liberal as long as you acknowledge that the majority of the viewpoints you share are liberal in nature. I understand, some people don't like being put into a "political box."

trans women are not men in women's clothing, they are women

women in women's clothing is normal

there are plenty of times you wouldn't be able to tell the difference

yes, women wear feminine clothes and makeup and talk like women

So I randomly stumbled upon this article while watching a youtube channel I frequent. Wasn't even searching for anything remotely about the Transgender bathroom situation. Breitbart has compiled a list of Top Twenty-Five Stories Proving Target’s Pro-Transgender Bathroom Policy Is Dangerous to Women and Children

Yessssssss I was almost sad that this thread had stopped generating terrible links to rip apart

This one is from the hilarious conservative publication breitbart, with an INCREDIBLE (I can't even believe it) abuse of headlines

The article only cites 6 stories that actually involve gender bending and crossdressing in any way, half of which have already been posted in this thread

The other 19 are just basic sexual predator stories that have absolutely nothing to do with trans bathroom rules at all. Zero. Zilch. Anti trans laws would have changed nothing in those situations.

Its telling that even the most conservative publication can't even scrounge enough "incidents" to actually make an argument.

Its fucking hilarious. Then it goes on to say that only "0.3" percent of the population is trans (9,567,000 people) so we shouldn't cater to them.

Well 6 People is 0.000000881% of the population. Even if wanna play the trans people is a minority argument, they still lose.

If you want to actually try and make an argument dollerlayer I'm all for it. Or I could just drop a bunch of articles "I randomly stumbled upon " in response for days ripping the same tired arguments apart

lsRainbows, even 6 stories in the past few months or so is a decent amount if you consider the following:

1) Only a small number of sexual abuse cases are actually reported (including sexual harassment, rape etc), and even fewer amounts actually make news headlines.

2) Almost all of these cases involved cameras and recording. In the 6 or so cases of opposite sex entering the other bathrooms if they were not recording video, there would be nothing to prosecute these creeps with.

3) In states that allow transgender bathroom access there is nothing written in the law that would prevent creeps (such as a man) from going in and checking out women showering.

And I'll leave you with a quote from Ted Cruz in response to transgender bathroom laws: "He thought that men should be able to go into the girls' bathrooms if they want to," Cruz said. "Grown adult men -- strangers -- should not be alone in a bathroom with little girls. And that's not conservative. That's not Republican or Democrat. That's basic common sense."

I should not have clicked on this thread

Why would a law against bathroom choice stop these monsters from molesting our children? They're doing it right now. The only solution is to ban all public restrooms.

what are grown adult men inherently pedophiles lmao what does this even mean

idk people act like creeps just need a reason to be able to put up cameras and shit in bathrooms like a law, as if it hasnt already been happening without a law for YEARS and YEARS

Seeing dollarlayer's posts at this point is just depressing, can we let this thread die already.

It won't stop them, but it will make it possible to prosecute them. It's the same thing with gun free zone signs. Those will not prevent a criminal from carrying out whatever they want, but it sure as hell makes it easy to prosecute someone if they have a firearm on them in an area where they are not allowed to. Same goes with restrooms. If only Biological males can enter the mens restroom (and not the women's), anytime a biological man enters a womens restroom they can be prosecuted if they are reported. With the current laws in some states, they can walk in (identify as a women even if thats just a lie) check out some women showering and walk out without any prosecution. I just don't understand how this is even a discussion.

3 whole days and that's the best you could come up with damn

since we are starting to go in circles cuz u refuse to acknowledge counter points imma start quoting my older posts when applicable

fucking up immediately in the first sentence with a flat out lie, with 1 incident from 2014, and 1 incident from 2013, and over half a year ago.. very loose definition of the past few months

Good you acknowledge this. Not sure what point you are making. Are you weeping for all the amount of harassment that trans people dont report and dont make the news? wheres the moral panic there?
http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_full.pdf

Also i can bet every instance (at least more than other sexual abuses) is making the news because conservative outlets are desperate for examples of this sort of thing - as demonstrated by the outright lying title of the article you posted. Look at that desperation! I'm not letting you off the hook this time that easily, cutie. If i were you, I would be utterly embarrassed by posting such poor journalism anywhere under my name. I know you try and distance yourself from the article when posting them by saying stuff like "Oh i was just casually browsing the internet and I came across this article absolutely randomly, how interesting teeheehee" but its not really working lol

"Really, the "OMG THINK OF THE WOMEN" falls apart immediately when you look at the actual stats of violence of people abusing gender laws vs violence towards trans.

If you actually cared about reducing sexual violence then there's only one position you can take, and you are on the wrong side of the issue." - me

This is my favorite thing, when a person says the same point in two different ways to pretend they have a stronger argument.(protip: quality > quantity) You are just saying that it would be impossible to prosecute because you can't tell if they were really trans or if they were just males pretending to be trans - luckily we've already covered this!

It would pretty easy actually to differentiate between an actual trans person and someone who just decided to pretend to be trans one day, yes. Courts debate intent all the time, and being trans is a choice that affects your entire life in evident ways that you would be able to show in court - me again

oh wowee the common sense argument thats funny cuz you lose almost every common sense angle

Common sense

trans women are women

therefore they go in the womens bathroom

if you disagree with the conclusion you probably disagree with the premise (its often the root of all these arguments), and thus u are bigoted

I knoooow right?

seriously people. it's C U R R E N T Y E A R

good thing rape is already illegal
good thing its insanely easy to prove whether anyone has a history of gender dysphoria since anyone who could claim to identify as a female would've had years of therapy

seriously, its so easy to differentiate here who's an actual threat

I have better things to do with my time than to debate young college age individuals that have been indoctrinated predominately by liberal universities. Your ancestors and mine would turnover in their grave at even the thought of what we have been discussing.

I'm not going to even bother reading the above TLDR post, but its funny how much this topic keeps coming up. Just in my facebook feed I found this article by a Medical doctor Transgenderism: A Pathogenic Meme

Also I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels strongly about the whole transgender bathroom issue. Signatures against Targets decision to support use whatever bathroom you best identify with are now over 1 million in just a few days!

Awww can't handle the heat? Leave then =) nobodies making you post here. Apparently you had nothing better to do then to post 13 pages worth of dumb, wonder what changed

Now this is a classic cliche A+
imagine when they find out that all the blacks aren't even slaves anymore and women can vote and gays can marry that'll really drive em crazy

This pretty much sums up your entire presence in this thread, gg
I mean I know it's a lot of words, almost like a whole page (omg)
Luckily you get alot of practice reading while being indoctrinated at liberal universities, I highly recommend

Ya know I'm not sure I would trust that degree. Dude was probably indoctrinated by a conservative university

Congratulations, you are one stupid person among many =)

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Not trying to. There are so many people that have been brainwashed, there is no longer any use debating. I sensed that the brainwashing was stronger than I had previously imagined, and if you hadn't noticed I basically stopped full on debating several pages ago, and instead just continued to post little tidbits that I run across.

There is a real downfall in the morals of society, and common sense has just been thrown out the window in favor of "if it makes you feel good do it." Now we debate and make laws about the opposite sex using whatever bathroom they want. In the coming years we will be talking about things like bestiality being acceptable, marrying animals, marrying robots, identifying as animals, identifying as spirits, gods or demons, and maybe even identifying as an alien from another planet? Instead of questioning everything, we accept everything as normal, and those that don't accept it as normal we label them as a bigot. The more accepting we become, the more crazy things will get. And those that need help, will not get it, as they will be considered "normal" by the millennial generation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wLmtuhuyhA

I too love slippery slope fallacies

WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL ALIVE SMH

https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/emoticon/steamfacepalm

oh really

cuz #376 and #381 look like a clear attempt at "debate" to me

of course when you realize that debate involves reading words, thinking, and actually defending your ideas I can see why you'd give up so easily, you don't seem to be capable of any of those things. Much easier to try and pretend like you weren't even trying to debate anyways.

Thats why you are just posting "tidbits" - you want to make arguments and points but don't want to actually defend them. Quite cowardly. If the facts favor you, then you should be able to stand by your articles and defend them. "brainwashed liberals" shouldn't be able to so easily shut you down.

"I know you try and distance yourself from the article when posting them by saying stuff like "Oh i was just casually browsing the internet and I came across this article absolutely randomly, how interesting teeheehee" but its not really working lol"

As a side note, here are some interesting articles I stumbled upon totally randomly

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/03/20/15-experts-debunk-right-wing-transgender-bathro/198533
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/03/20/debunking-the-big-myth-about-transgender-inclus/198530
http://mic.com/articles/114066/statistics-show-exactly-how-many-times-trans-people-have-attacked-you-in-bathrooms#.ijtBG2j2F
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/debunking-bathroom-myths_b_8670438.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/sexual-assault-domestic-violence-organizations-debunk-bathroom-predator/story?id=38604019
http://national.suntimes.com/us-news/7/72/2607710/debunk-transgender-bathroom-myth

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Moral_panic

LOL @ LsRainbows, why are you actually replying to me again and actually spending the time. I already told you in your last lengthy post, I literally didn't read it, nor did I read your last post, because I know its just going to be a bunch of brainwashed bs.

LOL @ dollarlayer, why are you actually replying to me again and actually spending the time. I already told you in your last lengthy post, I literally didn't read it, nor did I read your last post, because I know its just going to be a bunch of brainwashed bs.

loses argument
accuses op of being brainwashed by liberal propaganda (lol)
(side note: when we met with Senator Ron Johnson in DC he said the exact same thing and the advisor for our group (uw Madison prof) annihilated his argument)
proceeds to try and insult op for verbally murdering him in debate
proceeds to ignore argument with 12 studies linked at the bottom because it's totally a conspiracy dude!!!

lol

why r u still posting its been a week go back to trade servers

lmao this is the literary equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "nananana I cant hear you"

You just cant resist telling me how much you are ignoring my posts, can you.. its almost like ive gotten under your skin..

why not just stop responding?