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#271
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b4nny SpaceGhostsCoffeealso, what is your opinion on highlander idiots???I think Highlander as a gametype, especially for people that main a class that is considered an offclass in the 6s meta, has a lower skill ceiling than 6s TF2. That doesn't mean that HL players are bad, but it does mean they don't have the experience and foresight to deal with 2 bombing soldiers and 2 zombie scouts pushing and hitting every shot against them without a sentry, heavy and pyro to defend them. 6s is a much more DM focused gametype and thus relies much more on the individual skill of each player. It's all relative. Take your "top HL" experience as a sniper to an invite tryout and tell me how that goes. I should never lose to you, it doesn't matter how good you are. I have to be better than you because that's the standard I hold myself to, even if it's wrong. I am a competitor and I believe that every game is winnable. You probably believe the same, but your argument sounds like "fuck this 10 time ESEA invite and 2 time world champion idiot, I'm better than him :'(". Big difference.

I never really argued that HL is a better or more skilled gametype at all, although I do agree with your analysis. I just think it's amusing how much you've assumed about my personality. I've played multiple seasons of ESEA by now and have been actively grinding to get better at scout (not that I or anyone else should really expect you to keep up with such things).
I never even was actively arguing any of these things really, all I was doing was poking fun at you being upset about losing a pug to someone who was formerly an HL main like myself. I think a lot of the TF2 people I've played with can vouch for me that I tell people I am bad far more often than I say I'm good so I have no idea where you got the impression that I have some huge ego to think I am better than you at TF2. I think after about a season of having regular scrims against you in HL, the only thing I've seen you say to my team was saying "Why do Open Players talk shit?", in response to something that Trippa said.

[quote=b4nny] [quote=SpaceGhostsCoffee]also, what is your opinion on highlander idiots???[/quote]
I think Highlander as a gametype, especially for people that main a class that is considered an offclass in the 6s meta, has a lower skill ceiling than 6s TF2. That doesn't mean that HL players are bad, but it does mean they don't have the experience and foresight to deal with 2 bombing soldiers and 2 zombie scouts pushing and hitting every shot against them without a sentry, heavy and pyro to defend them. 6s is a much more DM focused gametype and thus relies much more on the individual skill of each player. It's all relative. Take your "top HL" experience as a sniper to an invite tryout and tell me how that goes. I should never lose to you, it doesn't matter how good you are. I have to be better than you because that's the standard I hold myself to, even if it's wrong. I am a competitor and I believe that every game is winnable. You probably believe the same, but your argument sounds like "fuck this 10 time ESEA invite and 2 time world champion idiot, I'm better than him :'(". Big difference.
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I never really argued that HL is a better or more skilled gametype at all, although I do agree with your analysis. I just think it's amusing how much you've assumed about my personality. I've played multiple seasons of ESEA by now and have been actively grinding to get better at scout (not that I or anyone else should really expect you to keep up with such things).
I never even was actively arguing any of these things really, all I was doing was poking fun at you being upset about losing a pug to someone who was formerly an HL main like myself. I think a lot of the TF2 people I've played with can vouch for me that I tell people I am bad far more often than I say I'm good so I have no idea where you got the impression that I have some huge ego to think I am better than you at TF2. I think after about a season of having regular scrims against you in HL, the only thing I've seen you say to my team was saying "Why do Open Players talk shit?", in response to something that Trippa said.
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#272
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B4nny process started off really fast with you guys seeming to have a lot of momentum early on, and I think bar a few mistakes you guys would have taken a quick 3-0 half. However it really quickly devolved into the slow pace that we were familiar with from the first 3 maps. Was it a conscious decision on your part to slow things down or do you think not making the most of those early opportunities allowed Ronin back into the map?

B4nny process started off really fast with you guys seeming to have a lot of momentum early on, and I think bar a few mistakes you guys would have taken a quick 3-0 half. However it really quickly devolved into the slow pace that we were familiar with from the first 3 maps. Was it a conscious decision on your part to slow things down or do you think not making the most of those early opportunities allowed Ronin back into the map?
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#273
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Yeah Im gonna go ahead and agree on the whole relationship thing, just because the dude is an asshole in a videogame doesnt mean you should go and use his personal dirty laundry out of game to shit on him. I remember b4nny being a pretty cool dude, and I was actually subbed to him for awhile but I let it run out because I saw he was slowly growing more and more toxic. I used to really look up to him and I can thank him for getting me into competitive TF2 but its really sad to see how hes changed.

Yeah Im gonna go ahead and agree on the whole relationship thing, just because the dude is an asshole in a videogame doesnt mean you should go and use his personal dirty laundry out of game to shit on him. I remember b4nny being a pretty cool dude, and I was actually subbed to him for awhile but I let it run out because I saw he was slowly growing more and more toxic. I used to really look up to him and I can thank him for getting me into competitive TF2 but its really sad to see how hes changed.
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#274
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this thread is getting out of hand so I'm going to have to lock it, sorry guys fun's over

this thread is getting out of hand so I'm going to have to lock it, sorry guys fun's over
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#275
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But did he call anyone robust?

But did he call anyone robust?
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#276
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^hitler

^hitler
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#277
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dummythis thread is getting out of hand so I'm going to have to lock it, sorry guys fun's over

:(

[quote=dummy]this thread is getting out of hand so I'm going to have to lock it, sorry guys fun's over[/quote]
:(
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#278
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thought it got locked

thought it got locked
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#279
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b4nny you be you, but know the people and the community you represent

b4nny you be you, but know the people and the community you represent
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#280
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#281
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BaBsTriangleBecause he is such a figurehead of the tf2 community, someone looking to get into competitive tf2 could see his stream and see him being a total asshole. Therefore, they will not want to play competitive. thus him being an asshole is bad for the competitive community in general, so that's why everyone is 'crying' about it
Fair enough, you have a valid point. I concede

You are right, but don't forget that exposed assholes didnt stop other video games ( or even some real sports) in the past from growing. After all, you're not forced to play with them.

[quote=BaBs][quote=Triangle]
Because he is such a figurehead of the tf2 community, someone looking to get into competitive tf2 could see his stream and see him being a total asshole. Therefore, they will not want to play competitive. thus him being an asshole is bad for the competitive community in general, so that's why everyone is 'crying' about it[/quote]

Fair enough, you have a valid point. I concede[/quote]

You are right, but don't forget that exposed assholes didnt stop other video games ( or even some real sports) in the past from growing. After all, you're not forced to play with them.
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#282
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http://i.imgur.com/tXq8lEo.jpg

[img]http://i.imgur.com/tXq8lEo.jpg[/img]
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#283
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Hilarious video.

Stupid thread.

Hilarious video.

Stupid thread.
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#284
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b4nnyGenerally I will keep things pretty focused on TF2, so the most salacious thing I tend to say is something along the lines of "you are not very good at TF2." To the TFTV community, this apparently crosses every line.

You literally called talash a fat, shy nerd.
Everytime you got roasted you replied with "muh tf2 career".Sometimes you called the majority of the community bad or idiots and every european a retard.All that because thalash said cw carried froyo.Make up your mind.
I used to enjoy your streams, but goddamn dude.

[quote=b4nny]Generally I will keep things pretty focused on TF2, so the most salacious thing I tend to say is something along the lines of "you are not very good at TF2." To the TFTV community, this apparently crosses every line.[/quote]

You literally called talash a fat, shy nerd.
Everytime you got roasted you replied with "muh tf2 career".Sometimes you called the majority of the community bad or idiots and every european a retard.All that because thalash said cw carried froyo.Make up your mind.
I used to enjoy your streams, but goddamn dude.
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#285
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#286
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b4nnyMy team won UGC platinum this season. Obviously I did not play the UGC grand finals as I decided to prioritize ESEA-I grand finals. I think I made the right choice. I would happily play another season of HL despite having the medal in my backpack.

you know yourself that's not what happened lol. you were cut before anyone, including yourself, even knew you had esea playoffs the same day.

[quote=b4nny]My team won UGC platinum this season. Obviously I did not play the UGC grand finals as I decided to prioritize ESEA-I grand finals. I think I made the right choice. I would happily play another season of HL despite having the medal in my backpack.[/quote]

you know yourself that's not what happened lol. you were cut before anyone, including yourself, even knew you had esea playoffs the same day.
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#287
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drunk banny is fuckin hilarious man if you leave that stream with any butthurt feeling and not just a few giggles ur doin something wrong

drunk banny is fuckin hilarious man if you leave that stream with any butthurt feeling and not just a few giggles ur doin something wrong
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#288
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harbleuOafmealmOafmealPlatinum shit talked the euros, and called b4nny, ducky, and whoever else hackers.
ducky consistently dodged lans with really questionable excuses ('i have to work at the library the entire weekend and cant reschedule for any reason even though im aware of the lan date months in advance') had pretty ridiculous blind dets/peeks

once banny showed up to lan and performed very well those banny hackusations were immediately laid to rest

...and then there's plat denying ever calling ducky a hacker. I dunno if he was fully aware of the things he said about other people.
its cause plat is the fucking MAN. #RIPMIX

In all seriousness, I think the reason Platinum never got shit for also talkin trash was because he never seemed obsessed with building up his persona as a "good person". Every one of b4nny's responses in this thread has emphasized a) how he mentors people and makes himself constantly available on stream, b) how racist and homophobic showstopper/ash/etc. can be, and c) describing himself as a reasonable person who is willing to respond when provoked. All three of these may be true to varying degrees (the first two clearly are), but it's irrelevant, and I think people don't like him trying to justify his actions so heavily. Platinum had the luxury of just not giving a fuck.

[quote=harbleu][quote=Oafmeal][quote=m][quote=Oafmeal]Platinum shit talked the euros, and called b4nny, ducky, and whoever else hackers. [/quote]

ducky consistently dodged lans with really questionable excuses ('i have to work at the library the entire weekend and cant reschedule for any reason even though im aware of the lan date months in advance') had pretty ridiculous blind dets/peeks

once banny showed up to lan and performed [i]very[/i] well those banny hackusations were immediately laid to rest[/quote]

...and then there's plat denying ever calling ducky a hacker. I dunno if he was fully aware of the things he said about other people.[/quote]
its cause plat is the fucking MAN. #RIPMIX[/quote]

In all seriousness, I think the reason Platinum never got shit for also talkin trash was because he never seemed obsessed with building up his persona as a "good person". Every one of b4nny's responses in this thread has emphasized a) how he mentors people and makes himself constantly available on stream, b) how racist and homophobic showstopper/ash/etc. can be, and c) describing himself as a reasonable person who is willing to respond when provoked. All three of these may be true to varying degrees (the first two clearly are), but it's irrelevant, and I think people don't like him trying to justify his actions so heavily. Platinum had the luxury of just not giving a fuck.
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#289
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ITT: highlander idiots thinking winning ugc plat is more difficult than insomnia

ITT: highlander idiots thinking winning ugc plat is more difficult than insomnia
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#290
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-protomustard how come all of a sudden all of your posts aren't garbage? i've been impressed the last few days u been spitting some fire !!!

In the past few days I've had the world's worst stomach flu, I've had to watch as 30% of my weight was jettisoned violently from my body and I've subsisted on a diet of pills, oyster crackers and red powerade. Basically I've walked through the valley of the shadow of death, and have emerged from the trial a stronger man.

[quote=-proto]mustard how come all of a sudden all of your posts aren't garbage? i've been impressed the last few days u been spitting some fire !!![/quote]

In the past few days I've had the world's worst stomach flu, I've had to watch as 30% of my weight was jettisoned violently from my body and I've subsisted on a diet of pills, oyster crackers and red powerade. Basically I've walked through the valley of the shadow of death, and have emerged from the trial a stronger man.
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#291
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stop fighting ;(

https://i.gyazo.com/4c032cabbed34ed35fd63e663dc7da5b.png

stop fighting ;(
[img]https://i.gyazo.com/4c032cabbed34ed35fd63e663dc7da5b.png[/img]
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#292
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I hope you live a long and fulfilling life after this near-death experience mustard.

I hope you live a long and fulfilling life after this near-death experience mustard.
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#293
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Corsab4nnyMy team won UGC platinum this season. Obviously I did not play the UGC grand finals as I decided to prioritize ESEA-I grand finals. I think I made the right choice. I would happily play another season of HL despite having the medal in my backpack.
you know yourself that's not what happened lol. you were cut before anyone, including yourself, even knew you had esea playoffs the same day.

b4nny scouts: http://logs.tf/1253243
corsa scouts: http://logs.tf/1349756

[quote=Corsa][quote=b4nny]My team won UGC platinum this season. Obviously I did not play the UGC grand finals as I decided to prioritize ESEA-I grand finals. I think I made the right choice. I would happily play another season of HL despite having the medal in my backpack.[/quote]

you know yourself that's not what happened lol. you were cut before anyone, including yourself, even knew you had esea playoffs the same day.[/quote]

b4nny scouts: http://logs.tf/1253243
corsa scouts: http://logs.tf/1349756
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#294
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Pinker-tanITT: highlander idiots thinking winning ugc plat is more difficult than insomnia

Well I can't explain why b4nny has got 2 i-series wins but exactly zero ugc plat wins.

[quote=Pinker-tan]ITT: highlander idiots thinking winning ugc plat is more difficult than insomnia[/quote]
Well I can't explain why b4nny has got 2 i-series wins but exactly zero ugc plat wins.
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#295
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eeebouldereeeshitting on people for relationship issues is kinda mean

there's plenty of other reasons to be mean to b4nny than him being a normal person who got fucked in a mixed professional/personal relationship

you know what's also kinda mean? b4nny constantly being a huge asshole in pugs, and everywhere else.
cool, call him an asshole then, but don't attack people's personal lives just because you ran out of things to be angry at

Wait, are you serious? So explain to me why you're supposed to leave a person's personal life out of what you say about them when their personal life is almost entirely tied to the tf2 community, and not to mention not personal? I'm sure there's shit that goes on in his life that no one but him knows about, but that's because he doesn't share it with the community. That's his "personal life." And of course, no one shits on him about it.
Besides, if you do shitty things, you should expect to get shit on by people for it and everything else you do. The idea that there's some arbitrarily sacred realm of "things" that someone can't be made fun of for is ridiculous. Especially when the same kind of prudence isn't practiced by b4nny himself.

[quote=eee][quote=boulder][quote=eee]shitting on people for relationship issues is kinda mean

there's plenty of other reasons to be mean to b4nny than him being a normal person who got fucked in a mixed professional/personal relationship[/quote]

you know what's also kinda mean? b4nny constantly being a huge asshole in pugs, and everywhere else.[/quote]
cool, call him an asshole then, but don't attack people's personal lives just because you ran out of things to be angry at[/quote]

Wait, are you serious? So explain to me why you're supposed to leave a person's personal life out of what you say about them when their personal life is almost entirely tied to the tf2 community, and not to mention [i]not personal[/i]? I'm sure there's shit that goes on in his life that no one but him knows about, but that's because he doesn't share it with the community. That's his "personal life." And of course, no one shits on him about it.
Besides, if you do shitty things, you should expect to get shit on by people for it and everything else you do. The idea that there's some arbitrarily sacred realm of "things" that someone can't be made fun of for is ridiculous. Especially when the same kind of prudence isn't practiced by b4nny himself.
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#296
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damn, the tf2 community is full of pussies

damn, the tf2 community is full of pussies
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#297
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i too watch banny's stream at 3 in the morning to wonder where my life has gone

i too watch banny's stream at 3 in the morning to wonder where my life has gone
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#298
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i closed this thread earlier if you hadn't noticed, please stop posting

i closed this thread earlier if you hadn't noticed, please stop posting
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#299
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http://imgur.com/MALgv7Z

http://imgur.com/MALgv7Z
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#300
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bouldereeebouldereeeshitting on people for relationship issues is kinda mean

there's plenty of other reasons to be mean to b4nny than him being a normal person who got fucked in a mixed professional/personal relationship

you know what's also kinda mean? b4nny constantly being a huge asshole in pugs, and everywhere else.
cool, call him an asshole then, but don't attack people's personal lives just because you ran out of things to be angry at

Wait, are you serious? So explain to me why you're supposed to leave a person's personal life out of what you say about them when their personal life is almost entirely tied to the tf2 community, and not to mention not personal? I'm sure there's shit that goes on in his life that no one but him knows about, but that's because he doesn't share it with the community. That's his "personal life." And of course, no one shits on him about it.
Besides, if you do shitty things, you should expect to get shit on by people for it. The idea that there's some arbitrarily sacred realm of "things" that someone can't be made fun of for is ridiculous. Especially when the same kind of prudence isn't practiced by b4nny himself.

Ok, but can we talk about how your name is John Stockwell and you look a lil bit like legendary Utah Jazz point guard John Stockton

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/904514_10151348208795592_274453445_o.jpg
http://gonetworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/john-stockton-net-worth1.jpg

[quote=boulder][quote=eee][quote=boulder][quote=eee]shitting on people for relationship issues is kinda mean

there's plenty of other reasons to be mean to b4nny than him being a normal person who got fucked in a mixed professional/personal relationship[/quote]

you know what's also kinda mean? b4nny constantly being a huge asshole in pugs, and everywhere else.[/quote]
cool, call him an asshole then, but don't attack people's personal lives just because you ran out of things to be angry at[/quote]

Wait, are you serious? So explain to me why you're supposed to leave a person's personal life out of what you say about them when their personal life is almost entirely tied to the tf2 community, and not to mention [i]not personal[/i]? I'm sure there's shit that goes on in his life that no one but him knows about, but that's because he doesn't share it with the community. That's his "personal life." And of course, no one shits on him about it.
Besides, if you do shitty things, you should expect to get shit on by people for it. The idea that there's some arbitrarily sacred realm of "things" that someone can't be made fun of for is ridiculous. Especially when the same kind of prudence isn't practiced by b4nny himself.[/quote]

Ok, but can we talk about how your name is John Stockwell and you look a lil bit like legendary Utah Jazz point guard John Stockton

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/904514_10151348208795592_274453445_o.jpg
http://gonetworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/john-stockton-net-worth1.jpg
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