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Hello everybody,
Introducing The Highlander Open #2, an introduction for non-competitive players into the comp scene or for those wanting to get into league-style competitive TF2 in a simple manner sponsored by Essentials.tf & Whitelist.tf.
And what exactly is this, we hear you ask? Well check out our fantastic and visually pleasing Highlander Open Page! It contains all the basics about what exactly the Highlander format is, and essential (light) reading for all who want to get involved.
This tournament is meant for people who are new to competitive play, a competition to find the very best pub team essentially. People with prior experience within competitive will potentially get set to only be allowed as a buddy. Buddy's can play medic for teams or just be there as a mentor/ to help with organisation. More info on this can be found in the Highlander Open FAQ.
If you are a lone player wanting to get into a team or if you want to get more players for your own team, check out the Recruitment Section. If you are a team looking to get a buddy, load up the forum and ask away.
What exactly is Highlander?
We still have a more extensive guide lying around which goes over most of the highlander information. This guide is slightly outdated but can still be found here, highlander guide written by kKaltUu and Wiethoofd. Russian version translated by irfx.
Taking Part in the Highlander Open #2
Are you already interested but still have a lot of additional questions? We have an FAQ going with a lot of additional information.
Schedule
Signups open: Now (Your team leader will have to sign your team up – for more info check out the ETF2L FAQ)
Signups close: Thursday 7th July
Final divisions announced: Friday 8th July
Week 1 start: Sunday 10th July
Maps
Week 1 - pl_badwater
Week 2 - koth_product_rc8 & cp_process_final
Week 3 - pl_upward
Week 4 - cp_gullywash_final1 & koth_lakeside_final
Information about maps during the single elimination playoffs will be posted when final groups are created.
Unlockable Weapons
The full list of banned weapons is as follows:
- Reserve Shooter
- Crit-A-Cola
- Air Strike
- Pomson 6000
- Vita-Saw
- Darwin’s Danger Shield
- Diamondback
- Red-Tape Recorder
A visual representation can be found on whitelist.tf.
Kind regards, The ETF2L Staff Team
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Hello everybody,
Introducing The Highlander Open #2, an introduction for non-competitive players into the comp scene or for those wanting to get into league-style competitive TF2 in a simple manner sponsored by [url=http://essentials.tf/]Essentials.tf[/url] & [url=http://whitelist.tf/]Whitelist.tf[/url].
And what exactly is this, we hear you ask? Well check out our fantastic and visually pleasing [url=http://highlanderopen.org/]Highlander Open Page[/url]! It contains all the basics about what exactly the Highlander format is, and essential (light) reading for all who want to get involved.
This tournament is meant for people who are new to competitive play, a competition to find the very best pub team essentially. People with prior experience within competitive will potentially get set to only be allowed as a buddy. Buddy's can play medic for teams or just be there as a mentor/ to help with organisation. More info on this can be found in the [url=http://etf2l.org/highlander-open-2-faq-and-homepage/]Highlander Open FAQ[/url].
If you are a lone player wanting to get into a team or if you want to get more players for your own team, check out the [url=http://etf2l.org/recruitment/teams/]Recruitment Section[/url]. If you are a team looking to get a buddy, load up the [url=http://etf2l.org/forum/hlo2/topic-33202/]forum[/url] and ask away.
What exactly is Highlander?
We still have a more extensive guide lying around which goes over most of the highlander information. This guide is slightly outdated but can still be found [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=163882605]here[/url], highlander guide written by kKaltUu and Wiethoofd. [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=164641695]Russian version[/url] translated by irfx.
Taking Part in the Highlander Open #2
Are you already interested but still have a lot of additional questions? We have an [url=http://etf2l.org/highlander-open-2-faq-and-homepage/]FAQ[/url] going with a lot of additional information.
Schedule
Signups open: Now (Your team leader will have to sign your team up – for more info check out the ETF2L FAQ)
Signups close: Thursday 7th July
Final divisions announced: Friday 8th July
Week 1 start: Sunday 10th July
Maps
Week 1 - pl_badwater
Week 2 - koth_product_rc8 & cp_process_final
Week 3 - pl_upward
Week 4 - cp_gullywash_final1 & koth_lakeside_final
Information about maps during the single elimination playoffs will be posted when final groups are created.
Unlockable Weapons
The full list of banned weapons is as follows:
[list]
[*] Reserve Shooter
[*] Crit-A-Cola
[*] Air Strike
[*] Pomson 6000
[*] Vita-Saw
[*] Darwin’s Danger Shield
[*] Diamondback
[*] Red-Tape Recorder
[/list]
A visual representation can be found on [url=http://whitelist.tf/etf2l_9v9_s10]whitelist.tf[/url].
Kind regards, The ETF2L Staff Team
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I think this is great. Just letting new players know there is a scene at all is beneficial, and helping them get started like this is ten times better.
I think this is great. Just letting new players know there is a scene at all is beneficial, and helping them get started like this is ten times better.
Tomhttps://i.imgur.com/1j02VjI.png
Introducing The Highlander Open #2, an introduction for non-competitive players into the comp scene or for those wanting to get into league-style competitive TF2 in a simple manner
I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating in comparison to 6s and the class limit makes it far less dynamic than 6s.
also considering the fact that all the bigger lans have been 6s (gxl, esea, insomnia) and highlander only had Deutschlan.
it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.
[quote=Tom][img]https://i.imgur.com/1j02VjI.png[/img]
Introducing The Highlander Open #2, an introduction for non-competitive players into the comp scene or for those wanting to get into league-style competitive TF2 in a simple manner[/quote]
I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating in comparison to 6s and the class limit makes it far less dynamic than 6s.
also considering the fact that all the bigger lans have been 6s (gxl, esea, insomnia) and highlander only had Deutschlan.
it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.
Those medals look pretty sweet, not gonna lie
Not sweet enough to justify suffering through a few hours of hl though
Those medals look pretty sweet, not gonna lie
Not sweet enough to justify suffering through a few hours of hl though
Phoenix21it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.
lots of players from the first hlopen quickly moved onto 6s.
pretty sure Bren started in hl open
[quote=Phoenix21]it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.[/quote]
lots of players from the first hlopen quickly moved onto 6s.
pretty sure Bren started in hl open
Phoenix21I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating in comparison to 6s and the class limit makes it far less dynamic than 6s.
also considering the fact that all the bigger lans have been 6s (gxl, esea, insomnia) and highlander only had Deutschlan.
it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.
Thankfully new players wanting to try actually playing their first competitive games themselves are not likely to be too bothered about the lack of LAN tournaments yet, and will probably care more about finally getting to play competitive themselves rather than only spectating without ever participating.
The previous HLO, though it had its flaws, was a huge succes in my opinion, and many players I know (including myself) started playing at that cup. A fair amount of them went on to play in high and prem highlander, and most of them play both highlander and 6s.
I get it if you don't like highlander and don't want to play it, and that's completely fine. However, plenty of people enjoy playing the format and would love to see the player base get a bit of a boost. Not everything is a waste if it doesn't benefit 6s, you know, even if you dislike the highlander format I don't see how you should begrudge the people who do like it to have a healthy influx of new players. That said, the previous HLO brought players into competitive in general, and though they started with HLO, plenty of them ended up enjoying both formats. Not a 'waste' at all in my books!
[quote=Phoenix21]I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating in comparison to 6s and the class limit makes it far less dynamic than 6s.
also considering the fact that all the bigger lans have been 6s (gxl, esea, insomnia) and highlander only had Deutschlan.
it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.[/quote]
Thankfully new players wanting to try actually playing their first competitive games themselves are not likely to be too bothered about the lack of LAN tournaments yet, and will probably care more about finally getting to play competitive themselves rather than only spectating without ever participating.
The previous HLO, though it had its flaws, was a huge succes in my opinion, and many players I know (including myself) started playing at that cup. A fair amount of them went on to play in high and prem highlander, and most of them play both highlander and 6s.
I get it if you don't like highlander and don't want to play it, and that's completely fine. However, plenty of people enjoy playing the format and would love to see the player base get a bit of a boost. Not everything is a waste if it doesn't benefit 6s, you know, even if you dislike the highlander format I don't see how you should begrudge the people who do like it to have a healthy influx of new players. That said, the previous HLO brought players into competitive in general, and though they started with HLO, plenty of them ended up enjoying both formats. Not a 'waste' at all in my books!
Forty-TwoPhoenix21I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating in comparison to 6s and the class limit makes it far less dynamic than 6s.
also considering the fact that all the bigger lans have been 6s (gxl, esea, insomnia) and highlander only had Deutschlan.
it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.
Thankfully new players wanting to try actually playing their first competitive games themselves are not likely to be too bothered about the lack of LAN tournaments yet, and will probably care more about finally getting to play competitive themselves rather than only spectating without ever participating.
The previous HLO, though it had its flaws, was a huge succes in my opinion, and many players I know (including myself) started playing at that cup. A fair amount of them went on to play in high and prem highlander, and most of them play both highlander and 6s.
I get it if you don't like highlander and don't want to play it, and that's completely fine. However, plenty of people enjoy playing the format and would love to see the player base get a bit of a boost. Not everything is a waste if it doesn't benefit 6s, you know, even if you dislike the highlander format I don't see how you should begrudge the people who do like it to have a healthy influx of new players. That said, the previous HLO brought players into competitive in general, and though they started with HLO, plenty of them ended up enjoying both formats. Not a 'waste' at all in my books!
still, 256 teams signed up to this tournament, so there could potentially be around 400 teams if it was a 6s cup, also considering that valve supports 6s matchmaking I think even more players would play it, the example I gave about the lans is to show the lack of interest in highlander in Comparison to 6s.
[quote=Forty-Two][quote=Phoenix21]I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating in comparison to 6s and the class limit makes it far less dynamic than 6s.
also considering the fact that all the bigger lans have been 6s (gxl, esea, insomnia) and highlander only had Deutschlan.
it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.[/quote]
Thankfully new players wanting to try actually playing their first competitive games themselves are not likely to be too bothered about the lack of LAN tournaments yet, and will probably care more about finally getting to play competitive themselves rather than only spectating without ever participating.
The previous HLO, though it had its flaws, was a huge succes in my opinion, and many players I know (including myself) started playing at that cup. A fair amount of them went on to play in high and prem highlander, and most of them play both highlander and 6s.
I get it if you don't like highlander and don't want to play it, and that's completely fine. However, plenty of people enjoy playing the format and would love to see the player base get a bit of a boost. Not everything is a waste if it doesn't benefit 6s, you know, even if you dislike the highlander format I don't see how you should begrudge the people who do like it to have a healthy influx of new players. That said, the previous HLO brought players into competitive in general, and though they started with HLO, plenty of them ended up enjoying both formats. Not a 'waste' at all in my books![/quote]
still, 256 teams signed up to this tournament, so there could potentially be around 400 teams if it was a 6s cup, also considering that valve supports 6s matchmaking I think even more players would play it, the example I gave about the lans is to show the lack of interest in highlander in Comparison to 6s.
HL attracts a type of crowd that as pubbers would be less likely to jump into 6s.
If you go to your average community pub you will see a lot of offclass "mains" that spend hours in those servers playing engineer or heavy or something like that because those are the classes they like. I'm sure a lot of you guys have been that player before. If HL didn't exist those guys would be less likely to try competitive at all, because it implies learning at least one class that they're not comfortable with or don't enjoy. I'm not saying that's a good mentality, but it would happen.
At least with HL they can get used to the basics of playing with a team and communicating while playing the class they like, so it all makes a little more sense in their heads. And there's also the aspect of 6s being seen as really "tryhard" and unforgiving from the outside, whereas HL is more casual and more friendly in that way.
TL;DR if it weren't for HL the scene as a whole would be much smaller and that includes 6s
HL attracts a type of crowd that as pubbers would be less likely to jump into 6s.
If you go to your average community pub you will see a lot of offclass "mains" that spend hours in those servers playing engineer or heavy or something like that because those are the classes they like. I'm sure a lot of you guys have been that player before. If HL didn't exist those guys would be less likely to try competitive at all, because it implies learning at least one class that they're not comfortable with or don't enjoy. I'm not saying that's a good mentality, but it would happen.
At least with HL they can get used to the basics of playing with a team and communicating while playing the class they like, so it all makes a little more sense in their heads. And there's also the aspect of 6s being seen as really "tryhard" and unforgiving from the outside, whereas HL is more casual and more friendly in that way.
TL;DR if it weren't for HL the scene as a whole would be much smaller and that includes 6s
How can there be a second highlander open if "there can be only one"
How can there be a second highlander open if "there can be only one"
If this was a 6s cup you'd be lucky to get 40 teams signed up, much less 400. Most pubbers hate 6s until they actually play it just because it gets shittalked so much. This is a good initiative, hope it does well. I would offer to mentor a team but I don't think it's worth it to play med on 350 ping :<
If this was a 6s cup you'd be lucky to get 40 teams signed up, much less 400. Most pubbers hate 6s until they actually play it just because it gets shittalked so much. This is a good initiative, hope it does well. I would offer to mentor a team but I don't think it's worth it to play med on 350 ping :<
making a newbie friendly tournament in highlander format is way better than making a 6s one. Very easy to pick up, close to no strats needed for starting team and people can play their favourite classes. Its like teaching a kid how to crawl before you teach it how to walk. In long term crawling is pretty useless but it gets you started. Even i wouldnt be playing prem 6s right now if i didnt play highlander at all :)
making a newbie friendly tournament in highlander format is way better than making a 6s one. Very easy to pick up, close to no strats needed for starting team and people can play their favourite classes. Its like teaching a kid how to crawl before you teach it how to walk. In long term crawling is pretty useless but it gets you started. Even i wouldnt be playing prem 6s right now if i didnt play highlander at all :)
Tomhttps://i.imgur.com/1j02VjI.png
I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating
LOL
These people are used to pubs, 18 players on a server is downsizing if they're new to competitive.
[quote=Tom][img]https://i.imgur.com/1j02VjI.png[/img]
I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating[/quote]
LOL
These people are used to pubs, 18 players on a server is downsizing if they're new to competitive.
Phoenix21Tomhttps://i.imgur.com/1j02VjI.png
Introducing The Highlander Open #2, an introduction for non-competitive players into the comp scene or for those wanting to get into league-style competitive TF2 in a simple manner
I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating in comparison to 6s and the class limit makes it far less dynamic than 6s.
also considering the fact that all the bigger lans have been 6s (gxl, esea, insomnia) and highlander only had Deutschlan.
it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.
retard american
[quote=Phoenix21][quote=Tom][img]https://i.imgur.com/1j02VjI.png[/img]
Introducing The Highlander Open #2, an introduction for non-competitive players into the comp scene or for those wanting to get into league-style competitive TF2 in a simple manner[/quote]
I don't think that highlander is a good introduction for the competitive scene, it's hard to follow 18 players so it's not good for spectating in comparison to 6s and the class limit makes it far less dynamic than 6s.
also considering the fact that all the bigger lans have been 6s (gxl, esea, insomnia) and highlander only had Deutschlan.
it's a shame that another major cup is wasted on this gamemode.[/quote]
retard american
nopeIf this was a 6s cup you'd be lucky to get 40 teams signed up, much less 400. Most pubbers hate 6s until they actually play it just because it gets shittalked so much. This is a good initiative, hope it does well. I would offer to mentor a team but I don't think it's worth it to play med on 350 ping :<
There was Archimedes cup, which is basically "6s Open", and I'm sure there were more than 40 teams.
[quote=nope]If this was a 6s cup you'd be lucky to get 40 teams signed up, much less 400. Most pubbers hate 6s until they actually play it just because it gets shittalked so much. This is a good initiative, hope it does well. I would offer to mentor a team but I don't think it's worth it to play med on 350 ping :<[/quote]
There was Archimedes cup, which is basically "6s Open", and I'm sure there were more than 40 teams.
nopeIf this was a 6s cup you'd be lucky to get 40 teams signed up, much less 400. Most pubbers hate 6s until they actually play it just because it gets shittalked so much. This is a good initiative, hope it does well. I would offer to mentor a team but I don't think it's worth it to play med on 350 ping :<
You dont have to play medic for the team you mentor, you can help them in other ways demo reviews map talks etc. If a buddy wants to play however they are limited to medic.
shorasnopeIf this was a 6s cup you'd be lucky to get 40 teams signed up, much less 400. Most pubbers hate 6s until they actually play it just because it gets shittalked so much. This is a good initiative, hope it does well. I would offer to mentor a team but I don't think it's worth it to play med on 350 ping :<
There was Archimedes cup, which is basically "6s Open", and I'm sure there were more than 40 teams.
While the Archimedes cup did get more than 40 teams it got 128, it got less teams than the last highlander open which had 256 teams and more signup that did not get to play. Not to say that a 6s newbie cup will not do well, but people saying if we did a 6s event it would be more successful are not looking at the evidence.
This combined with the fact that we did a newbie 6s event mroe recently than a highlander one are the reasons why this summer we are running a Highlander event.
Remember there will be plenty of 6s over the summer for players new to competitive tf2 and veterans to watch with i58 and the nations cup.
[quote=nope]If this was a 6s cup you'd be lucky to get 40 teams signed up, much less 400. Most pubbers hate 6s until they actually play it just because it gets shittalked so much. This is a good initiative, hope it does well. I would offer to mentor a team but I don't think it's worth it to play med on 350 ping :<[/quote]
You dont have to play medic for the team you mentor, you can help them in other ways demo reviews map talks etc. If a buddy wants to play however they are limited to medic.
[quote=shoras][quote=nope]If this was a 6s cup you'd be lucky to get 40 teams signed up, much less 400. Most pubbers hate 6s until they actually play it just because it gets shittalked so much. This is a good initiative, hope it does well. I would offer to mentor a team but I don't think it's worth it to play med on 350 ping :<[/quote]
There was Archimedes cup, which is basically "6s Open", and I'm sure there were more than 40 teams.[/quote]
While the Archimedes cup did get more than 40 teams it got 128, it got less teams than the last highlander open which had 256 teams and more signup that did not get to play. Not to say that a 6s newbie cup will not do well, but people saying if we did a 6s event it would be more successful are not looking at the evidence.
This combined with the fact that we did a newbie 6s event mroe recently than a highlander one are the reasons why this summer we are running a Highlander event.
Remember there will be plenty of 6s over the summer for players new to competitive tf2 and veterans to watch with i58 and the nations cup.
the uncomfortable truth is that competitive tf2 would be in a much better state today if highlander had never been pushed so aggressively as a stepping stone and newbie friendly format
further promoting highlander is futile at best in light of valve's decision to stamp 6v6 as the official competitive mode
the uncomfortable truth is that competitive tf2 would be in a much better state today if highlander had never been pushed so aggressively as a stepping stone and newbie friendly format
further promoting highlander is futile at best in light of valve's decision to stamp 6v6 as the official competitive mode
enigmathe uncomfortable truth is that competitive tf2 would be in a much better state today if highlander had never been pushed so aggressively as a stepping stone and newbie friendly format
further promoting highlander is futile at best in light of valve's decision to stamp 6v6 as the official competitive mode
The reason it took me so long to start in esea was because of how hostile the 6s community appeared towards me as a player who also liked hl. I think you're blaming one community for everyone's failings.....
[quote=enigma]the uncomfortable truth is that competitive tf2 would be in a much better state today if highlander had never been pushed so aggressively as a stepping stone and newbie friendly format
further promoting highlander is futile at best in light of valve's decision to stamp 6v6 as the official competitive mode[/quote]
The reason it took me so long to start in esea was because of how hostile the 6s community appeared towards me as a player who also liked hl. I think you're blaming one community for everyone's failings.....
why are the beggar's, short circuit,soda popper, and machina legal?
why are the beggar's, short circuit,soda popper, and machina legal?
Vegan_Meatwhy are the beggar's, short circuit,soda popper, and machina legal?
The whitelist is based on ETF2L season 10. If there are any balance changes either before or during the event then the whitelist will be reviewed. But unless that happens the ETF2L whitelist will be used.
[quote=Vegan_Meat]why are the beggar's, short circuit,soda popper, and machina legal?[/quote]
The whitelist is based on ETF2L season 10. If there are any balance changes either before or during the event then the whitelist will be reviewed. But unless that happens the ETF2L whitelist will be used.
Vegan_Meatwhy are the beggar's, short circuit,soda popper, and machina legal?
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[quote=Vegan_Meat]why are the beggar's, short circuit,soda popper, and machina legal?[/quote]
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ETF2L has always had a terrible banlist in HL
ETF2L has always had a terrible banlist in HL
fatswimdudeVegan_Meatwhy are the beggar's, short circuit,soda popper, and machina legal?
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my sympathies.
What euro reasoning leads to the air strike being banned that doesn't also ban the beggar's?
[quote=fatswimdude][quote=Vegan_Meat]why are the beggar's, short circuit,soda popper, and machina legal?[/quote]
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my sympathies.
What euro reasoning leads to the air strike being banned that doesn't also ban the beggar's?
The only reason I ever got for why their banlist is terrible is "You should stop being a baby and play around them"
The only reason I ever got for why their banlist is terrible is "You should stop being a baby and play around them"
NurseyThe only reason I ever got for why their banlist is terrible is "You should stop being a baby and play around them"
Our banlist has always been mainly based off of feedback from within the community. We generally aim to have an as open whitelist as possible and none of these weapons have gotten a lot of complaints. This whitelist is the same as season 10 and we didn't hear of any overpowered weapons from there so no adjustments were made.
[quote=Nursey]The only reason I ever got for why their banlist is terrible is "You should stop being a baby and play around them"[/quote]
Our banlist has always been mainly based off of feedback from within the community. We generally aim to have an as open whitelist as possible and none of these weapons have gotten a lot of complaints. This whitelist is the same as season 10 and we didn't hear of any overpowered weapons from there so no adjustments were made.
Aoshiwe didn't hear of any overpowered weapons from there so no adjustments were made.
The Beggar's has been known to be broken for a year or something...
[quote=Aoshi]we didn't hear of any overpowered weapons from there so no adjustments were made.[/quote]
The Beggar's has been known to be broken for a year or something...