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does 20b actually have the potential to beat froyo and top EU teams?
does 20b actually have the potential to beat froyo and top EU teams?
phraxi doubt b4nny will ever go back to demo with the class's current strength, he can carry harder on scout and soldierya that worked out pretty well at i58 didn't it 4Head
b4nny definitely had a big impact for froyo. i think their shortcomings came down to teamwork rather than b4nny not delivering. but ur only trolling so why am i even bothering
[quote=phrax][quote]i doubt b4nny will ever go back to demo with the class's current strength, he can carry harder on scout and soldier[/quote]
ya that worked out pretty well at i58 didn't it 4Head[/quote]
b4nny definitely had a big impact for froyo. i think their shortcomings came down to teamwork rather than b4nny not delivering. but ur only trolling so why am i even bothering
ya that worked out pretty well at i58 didn't it 4Head[/quote]
b4nny definitely had a big impact for froyo. i think their shortcomings came down to teamwork rather than b4nny not delivering. but ur only trolling so why am i even bothering
sopsi doubt b4nny will ever go back to demo with the class's current strength, he can carry harder on scout and soldier
B4nny should play demo or pocket, because he's terrible on scout. He often took the 2nd most heals, the majority of the ubers and his clean-up game was awful.
He probably was pressured into delivering which made him try to carry, but He didn't and He was probably one of the worst scouts in top4, if not the worst, because He took the majority of heals and ubers all while having the least impact on the game compared to the other scouts, because they did much more with much less. He only had good logs sometimes but that should be normal for a pocket scout with that many heals.
He would probably have the biggest impact on pocket or demo.
[quote=sops]
i doubt b4nny will ever go back to demo with the class's current strength, he can carry harder on scout and soldier[/quote]
B4nny should play demo or pocket, because he's terrible on scout. He often took the 2nd most heals, the majority of the ubers and his clean-up game was awful.
He probably was pressured into delivering which made him try to carry, but He didn't and He was probably one of the worst scouts in top4, if not the worst, because He took the majority of heals and ubers all while having the least impact on the game compared to the other scouts, because they did much more with much less. He only had good logs sometimes but that should be normal for a pocket scout with that many heals.
He would probably have the biggest impact on pocket or demo.
i doubt b4nny will ever go back to demo with the class's current strength, he can carry harder on scout and soldier[/quote]
B4nny should play demo or pocket, because he's terrible on scout. He often took the 2nd most heals, the majority of the ubers and his clean-up game was awful.
He probably was pressured into delivering which made him try to carry, but He didn't and He was probably one of the worst scouts in top4, if not the worst, because He took the majority of heals and ubers all while having the least impact on the game compared to the other scouts, because they did much more with much less. He only had good logs sometimes but that should be normal for a pocket scout with that many heals.
He would probably have the biggest impact on pocket or demo.
GazHe would probably have the biggest impact on pocket or demo.
He was very solid on pocket during i55, but if they keep playing with TLR, this role won't be vacant.
[quote=Gaz]He would probably have the biggest impact on pocket or demo.[/quote]
He was very solid on pocket during i55, but if they keep playing with TLR, this role won't be vacant.
He was very solid on pocket during i55, but if they keep playing with TLR, this role won't be vacant.
Gazsopsi doubt b4nny will ever go back to demo with the class's current strength, he can carry harder on scout and soldier
B4nny should play demo or pocket, because he's terrible on scout. He often took the 2nd most heals, the majority of the ubers and his clean-up game was awful.
He probably was pressured into delivering which made him try to carry, but He didn't and He was probably one of the worst scouts in top4, if not the worst, because He took the majority of heals and ubers all while having the least impact on the game compared to the other scouts, because they did much more with much less. He only had good logs sometimes but that should be normal for a pocket scout with that many heals.
He would probably have the biggest impact on pocket or demo.
call me a b4nny sub or whatever but i do not think that grant vincent was one of the worst scouts in top 4
[quote=Gaz][quote=sops]
i doubt b4nny will ever go back to demo with the class's current strength, he can carry harder on scout and soldier[/quote]
B4nny should play demo or pocket, because he's terrible on scout. He often took the 2nd most heals, the majority of the ubers and his clean-up game was awful.
He probably was pressured into delivering which made him try to carry, but He didn't and He was probably one of the worst scouts in top4, if not the worst, because He took the majority of heals and ubers all while having the least impact on the game compared to the other scouts, because they did much more with much less. He only had good logs sometimes but that should be normal for a pocket scout with that many heals.
He would probably have the biggest impact on pocket or demo.[/quote]
call me a b4nny sub or whatever but i do not think that grant vincent was one of the worst scouts in top 4
i doubt b4nny will ever go back to demo with the class's current strength, he can carry harder on scout and soldier[/quote]
B4nny should play demo or pocket, because he's terrible on scout. He often took the 2nd most heals, the majority of the ubers and his clean-up game was awful.
He probably was pressured into delivering which made him try to carry, but He didn't and He was probably one of the worst scouts in top4, if not the worst, because He took the majority of heals and ubers all while having the least impact on the game compared to the other scouts, because they did much more with much less. He only had good logs sometimes but that should be normal for a pocket scout with that many heals.
He would probably have the biggest impact on pocket or demo.[/quote]
call me a b4nny sub or whatever but i do not think that grant vincent was one of the worst scouts in top 4
toads_tfcall me a b4nny sub or whatever but i do not think that grant vincent was one of the worst scouts in top 4
I will get hate from actual b4nny subs for this, but he was.
From someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork, him being on the class at all was completely meaningless for froyos game. Many heals and ubers, no clean up apart from enemies sacking for 404 and it was not like him being on pocket scout made 404 untouchable. Freestate atleast secured the majority of froyos rounds by backcapping, b4nny had his moments but they were ultimately irrelevant to the match outcome.
[quote=toads_tf]
call me a b4nny sub or whatever but i do not think that grant vincent was one of the worst scouts in top 4[/quote]
I will get hate from actual b4nny subs for this, but he was.
From someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork, him being on the class at all was completely meaningless for froyos game. Many heals and ubers, no clean up apart from enemies sacking for 404 and it was not like him being on pocket scout made 404 untouchable. Freestate atleast secured the majority of froyos rounds by backcapping, b4nny had his moments but they were ultimately irrelevant to the match outcome.
call me a b4nny sub or whatever but i do not think that grant vincent was one of the worst scouts in top 4[/quote]
I will get hate from actual b4nny subs for this, but he was.
From someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork, him being on the class at all was completely meaningless for froyos game. Many heals and ubers, no clean up apart from enemies sacking for 404 and it was not like him being on pocket scout made 404 untouchable. Freestate atleast secured the majority of froyos rounds by backcapping, b4nny had his moments but they were ultimately irrelevant to the match outcome.
GazFrom someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork
when did he say this? not questioning, just curious
[quote=Gaz]
From someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork[/quote]
when did he say this? not questioning, just curious
From someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork[/quote]
when did he say this? not questioning, just curious
netwrkjrkGazFrom someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockworkwhen did he say this? not questioning, just curious
yes, i usually hear AT LEAST shrugger and clockwork above him
plus he never mentions himself when naming the best tf2 players of all time, just always the froyo roster that won two i-series as well as some other players
[quote=netwrkjrk][quote=Gaz]
From someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork[/quote]
when did he say this? not questioning, just curious[/quote]
yes, i usually hear AT LEAST shrugger and clockwork above him
plus he never mentions himself when naming the best tf2 players of all time, just always the froyo roster that won two i-series as well as some other players
From someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork[/quote]
when did he say this? not questioning, just curious[/quote]
yes, i usually hear AT LEAST shrugger and clockwork above him
plus he never mentions himself when naming the best tf2 players of all time, just always the froyo roster that won two i-series as well as some other players
netwrkjrkGazFrom someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockworkwhen did he say this? not questioning, just curious
He once said on stream that he rates clockwork and himself very high. Of course Im interpreting a bit but considering he shittalked thalash and haffi and didnt acknowledge ppl like starkie him rating himself 2nd best scout isnt that far off. Got nothing to back that up tho. However if I would need to throw an answer into the room i think it was the stream after the thalash one
[quote=netwrkjrk][quote=Gaz]
From someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork[/quote]
when did he say this? not questioning, just curious[/quote]
He once said on stream that he rates clockwork and himself very high. Of course Im interpreting a bit but considering he shittalked thalash and haffi and didnt acknowledge ppl like starkie him rating himself 2nd best scout isnt that far off. Got nothing to back that up tho. However if I would need to throw an answer into the room i think it was the stream after the thalash one
From someone who rates himself the second best scout after clockwork[/quote]
when did he say this? not questioning, just curious[/quote]
He once said on stream that he rates clockwork and himself very high. Of course Im interpreting a bit but considering he shittalked thalash and haffi and didnt acknowledge ppl like starkie him rating himself 2nd best scout isnt that far off. Got nothing to back that up tho. However if I would need to throw an answer into the room i think it was the stream after the thalash one
if you think b4nny didnt play well you are insane. You might not like the guy because of how he behaves but hes pretty nuts at tf2
if you think b4nny didnt play well you are insane. You might not like the guy because of how he behaves but hes pretty nuts at tf2
its a joke, alec accidently mentioned a "joke about the return of 20b" or something like that on stream a little while ago and then was like, oh shoot, didnt mean to say that.
its a joke, alec accidently mentioned a "joke about the return of 20b" or something like that on stream a little while ago and then was like, oh shoot, didnt mean to say that.
Paprika_if you think b4nny didnt play well you are insane. You might not like the guy because of how he behaves but hes pretty nuts at tf2
Never said I hate him or he is bad at TF2, I said he performed the worst out of all scouts in top4. Take it as you will but he never really did anything meaningful. Maybe like 2 times, but thats still underwhelming considering the resources he got. Im pointing this out because he had much bigger impact on projectile classes and he is a crucial part of his team due to his experience so him being invisible in matches isnt good considering he could do so much more with his skillset. Thats all there is to it and Im done repeating myself like a retard
[quote=Paprika_]if you think b4nny didnt play well you are insane. You might not like the guy because of how he behaves but hes pretty nuts at tf2[/quote]
Never said I hate him or he is bad at TF2, I said he performed the worst out of all scouts in top4. Take it as you will but he never really did anything meaningful. Maybe like 2 times, but thats still underwhelming considering the resources he got. Im pointing this out because he had much bigger impact on projectile classes and he is a crucial part of his team due to his experience so him being invisible in matches isnt good considering he could do so much more with his skillset. Thats all there is to it and Im done repeating myself like a retard
Never said I hate him or he is bad at TF2, I said he performed the worst out of all scouts in top4. Take it as you will but he never really did anything meaningful. Maybe like 2 times, but thats still underwhelming considering the resources he got. Im pointing this out because he had much bigger impact on projectile classes and he is a crucial part of his team due to his experience so him being invisible in matches isnt good considering he could do so much more with his skillset. Thats all there is to it and Im done repeating myself like a retard
nykGazGot nothing to back that up tho.
As in "I dont memorize every said word at the exact timeframe of one of the many streams I watched in the past months so I cant pinpoint the exact location of the VOD i can't remember.
Nice reading comprehension anyway, I'd rather have this get back on the 20b topic tho because me and 10 b4nny subs furiously shitposting is getting out of hand autism-wise.
I laughed about pro-b4nny vs anti-b4nny arguments a few days ago and fell into that hole and cant get out now
[quote=nyk][quote=Gaz]Got nothing to back that up tho.[/quote][/quote]
As in "I dont memorize every said word at the exact timeframe of one of the many streams I watched in the past months so I cant pinpoint the exact location of the VOD i can't remember.
Nice reading comprehension anyway, I'd rather have this get back on the 20b topic tho because me and 10 b4nny subs furiously shitposting is getting out of hand autism-wise.
I laughed about pro-b4nny vs anti-b4nny arguments a few days ago and fell into that hole and cant get out now
As in "I dont memorize every said word at the exact timeframe of one of the many streams I watched in the past months so I cant pinpoint the exact location of the VOD i can't remember.
Nice reading comprehension anyway, I'd rather have this get back on the 20b topic tho because me and 10 b4nny subs furiously shitposting is getting out of hand autism-wise.
I laughed about pro-b4nny vs anti-b4nny arguments a few days ago and fell into that hole and cant get out now
GazPaprika_if you think b4nny didnt play well you are insane. You might not like the guy because of how he behaves but hes pretty nuts at tf2
Never said I hate him or he is bad at TF2, I said he performed the worst out of all scouts in top4. Take it as you will but he never really did anything meaningful. Maybe like 2 times, but thats still underwhelming considering the resources he got. Im pointing this out because he had much bigger impact on projectile classes and he is a crucial part of his team due to his experience so him being invisible in matches isnt good considering he could do so much more with his skillset. Thats all there is to it and Im done repeating myself like a retard
You realize b4nny is considered the best tf2 player of all time?
There team didnt win because their ubers and cordination were not so great, not cause b4nny didnt perform.
[quote=Gaz][quote=Paprika_]if you think b4nny didnt play well you are insane. You might not like the guy because of how he behaves but hes pretty nuts at tf2[/quote]
Never said I hate him or he is bad at TF2, I said he performed the worst out of all scouts in top4. Take it as you will but he never really did anything meaningful. Maybe like 2 times, but thats still underwhelming considering the resources he got. Im pointing this out because he had much bigger impact on projectile classes and he is a crucial part of his team due to his experience so him being invisible in matches isnt good considering he could do so much more with his skillset. Thats all there is to it and Im done repeating myself like a retard[/quote]
You realize b4nny is considered the best tf2 player of all time?
There team didnt win because their ubers and cordination were not so great, not cause b4nny didnt perform.
Never said I hate him or he is bad at TF2, I said he performed the worst out of all scouts in top4. Take it as you will but he never really did anything meaningful. Maybe like 2 times, but thats still underwhelming considering the resources he got. Im pointing this out because he had much bigger impact on projectile classes and he is a crucial part of his team due to his experience so him being invisible in matches isnt good considering he could do so much more with his skillset. Thats all there is to it and Im done repeating myself like a retard[/quote]
You realize b4nny is considered the best tf2 player of all time?
There team didnt win because their ubers and cordination were not so great, not cause b4nny didnt perform.
rocketslayTheWandererWho will B4nny cut is the question? Or maybe since TLR only came in to play for i58, paddie might move back to pocket and they will get a new roam? idk
-muma
b4nny to demo, paddie to scout, blaze to roamer
4Head
B4nny said himself he will never go back to demo because he carrys harder on pocket and scout, which is true. With the current meta pocket and scout are the carry classes.
[quote=rocketslay][quote=TheWanderer]Who will B4nny cut is the question? Or maybe since TLR only came in to play for i58, paddie might move back to pocket and they will get a new roam? idk[/quote]
-muma
b4nny to demo, paddie to scout, blaze to roamer
4Head[/quote]
B4nny said himself he will never go back to demo because he carrys harder on pocket and scout, which is true. With the current meta pocket and scout are the carry classes.
-muma
b4nny to demo, paddie to scout, blaze to roamer
4Head[/quote]
B4nny said himself he will never go back to demo because he carrys harder on pocket and scout, which is true. With the current meta pocket and scout are the carry classes.
GazHe was probably one of the worst scouts in top4, if not the worst, because He took the majority of heals and ubers all while having the least impact on the game compared to the other scouts, because they did much more with much less. He only had good logs sometimes but that should be normal for a pocket scout with that many heals.
I checked his logs during the upper brack and lower bracket. Only once was he the player who received the 2nd most heals, and out of the 10 maps he played, he was very solid on 9 of them, usually being the 3rd player with the most heals, which is as you say normal for a pocket scout.
So I think saying b4nny was the worst scout in top 4 is pretty unfounded.
[quote=Gaz]He was probably one of the worst scouts in top4, if not the worst, because He took the majority of heals and ubers all while having the least impact on the game compared to the other scouts, because they did much more with much less. He only had good logs sometimes but that should be normal for a pocket scout with that many heals.[/quote]
I checked his logs during the upper brack and lower bracket. Only once was he the player who received the 2nd most heals, and out of the 10 maps he played, he was very solid on 9 of them, usually being the 3rd player with the most heals, which is as you say normal for a pocket scout.
So I think saying b4nny was the worst scout in top 4 is pretty unfounded.
I checked his logs during the upper brack and lower bracket. Only once was he the player who received the 2nd most heals, and out of the 10 maps he played, he was very solid on 9 of them, usually being the 3rd player with the most heals, which is as you say normal for a pocket scout.
So I think saying b4nny was the worst scout in top 4 is pretty unfounded.
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Steve is CRAZY! (btw steve is duwatna, i can use his first name because we are tight like that. yeah i know invite players but its not a big deal dude its whatever to me lol)
[quote=Rikachu]duwatna is steve[/quote]
Steve is CRAZY! (btw steve is duwatna, i can use his first name because we are tight like that. yeah i know invite players but its not a big deal dude its whatever to me lol)
Steve is CRAZY! (btw steve is duwatna, i can use his first name because we are tight like that. yeah i know invite players but its not a big deal dude its whatever to me lol)
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ayo deathy since your coach is leaving you wanna hmu with that coaching spot?
pendadid cozen get cut from splyce ow?
he quit so he can have time for tf2
[quote=penda]did cozen get cut from splyce ow?[/quote]
he quit so he can have time for tf2
he quit so he can have time for tf2
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