Hi so I don't really have the schedule to practice or associate with a team regularly these days, which is why I don't actually play real competitive.
Since tf2center is really cancerous and nobody plays on stadium, I almost exclusively play casual atm, where I usually join the losing team and try to win the game/reach 100 points/some other goal I set myself and it's fun, but sometimes I feel like playing some less pubby tf2 so I was thinking about actually playing some MM.
I've only played MM in the beta on my account and haven't gotten the pass yet, so before I spend money on this, I'd like to know what I'm getting.
The thing is, I usually play tf2 casually while watching videos or whatever these days. I know MM is retarded at low ranks and I'm confident I'll be able to solo win most games on CaneCola scout on that level, but I expect to rank up pretty fast and I'd like to know if it actually gets semi-serious quickly?
For example, I wouldn't play a lobby like this, without paying attention for a couple seconds sometimes and with sound off, because I don't wanna ruin the game for ppl who are actually looking for teamwork.
But I'm not really sure if this is something that even happens in MM and if real team behavior is expected except for like the top 1% MMR.
If everyone is just solo queuing in MM these days and it's just a 6v6 pub, and I can play with sound off without ruining anyone's day, I'll probably give it a go.
Hi so I don't really have the schedule to practice or associate with a team regularly these days, which is why I don't actually play real competitive.
Since tf2center is really cancerous and nobody plays on stadium, I almost exclusively play casual atm, where I usually join the losing team and try to win the game/reach 100 points/some other goal I set myself and it's fun, but sometimes I feel like playing some less pubby tf2 so I was thinking about actually playing some MM.
I've only played MM in the beta on my account and haven't gotten the pass yet, so before I spend money on this, I'd like to know what I'm getting.
The thing is, I usually play tf2 casually while watching videos or whatever these days. I know MM is retarded at low ranks and I'm confident I'll be able to solo win most games on CaneCola scout on that level, but I expect to rank up pretty fast and I'd like to know if it actually gets semi-serious quickly?
For example, I wouldn't play a lobby like this, without paying attention for a couple seconds sometimes and with sound off, because I don't wanna ruin the game for ppl who are actually looking for teamwork.
But I'm not really sure if this is something that even happens in MM and if real team behavior is expected except for like the top 1% MMR.
If everyone is just solo queuing in MM these days and it's just a 6v6 pub, and I can play with sound off without ruining anyone's day, I'll probably give it a go.
Don't play it, it's a joke. Being matched with 2 pyros that just installed the game, against 2 heavies with vaccinator medics and a crit-a-cola scout, all that with graphical and network restrictions isn't considered competitive. It's not fun at all.
It doesn't get serious at higher ranks, since those mean nothing. The playerbase is so low you'll get matched against the same guys again and again.
Don't play it, it's a joke. Being matched with 2 pyros that just installed the game, against 2 heavies with vaccinator medics and a crit-a-cola scout, all that with graphical and network restrictions isn't considered competitive. It's not fun at all.
It doesn't get serious at higher ranks, since those mean nothing. The playerbase is so low you'll get matched against the same guys again and again.
I could be completely wrong, but I'm pretty sure your rank in MM means almost nothing. You're not going to find a competitive match and you're almost certainly not going to find any semblance of teamwork in MM. TF2 Center/Stadium are much better options if you have an itch to play competitively but dont want to invest time into a team and don't want to take it too seriously (non-mumble required), imo.
I could be completely wrong, but I'm pretty sure your rank in MM means almost nothing. You're not going to find a competitive match and you're almost certainly not going to find any semblance of teamwork in MM. TF2 Center/Stadium are much better options if you have an itch to play competitively but dont want to invest time into a team and don't want to take it too seriously (non-mumble required), imo.
I play a ton of MM because it's just a lot easier and faster to get games and I don't have to leave mumble. I honestly think the new ranking system they use now would be perfect- if there were a larger playerbase. While there's still only 30-100 people searching at any given time, it's going to keep plunking you in with permaspys/permapyros who think they are gods.
I play a ton of MM because it's just a lot easier and faster to get games and I don't have to leave mumble. I honestly think the new ranking system they use now would be perfect- if there were a larger playerbase. While there's still only 30-100 people searching at any given time, it's going to keep plunking you in with permaspys/permapyros who think they are gods.
Don't get me wrong, I'm looking for retard games that I don't have to take seriously, except on comp maps and with fewer than 5 engies per team. So what you're describing seems pretty gud.
If I want to play actual comp I'll bite the bullet and play center or try my luck on pugchamp, but I was just looking for a casual alternative to 24 player badwater pub mayhem.
Don't get me wrong, I'm looking for retard games that I don't have to take seriously, except on comp maps and with fewer than 5 engies per team. So what you're describing seems pretty gud.
If I want to play actual comp I'll bite the bullet and play center or try my luck on pugchamp, but I was just looking for a casual alternative to 24 player badwater pub mayhem.
the301stspartanDon't get me wrong, I'm looking for retard games that I don't have to take seriously, except on comp maps and with fewer than 5 engies per team. So what you're describing seems pretty gud.
If I want to play actual comp I'll bite the bullet and play center or try my luck on pugchamp, but I was just looking for a casual alternative to 24 player badwater pub mayhem.
Then MM might be just the thing, granted you have no control over actually running into 5 engie strat, but you'll probably be fine.
Only one way to find out!
[quote=the301stspartan]Don't get me wrong, I'm looking for retard games that I don't have to take seriously, except on comp maps and with fewer than 5 engies per team. So what you're describing seems pretty gud.
If I want to play actual comp I'll bite the bullet and play center or try my luck on pugchamp, but I was just looking for a casual alternative to 24 player badwater pub mayhem.[/quote]
Then MM might be just the thing, granted you have no control over actually running into 5 engie strat, but you'll probably be fine.
Only one way to find out!
I just realized I get the pass for free if I have steam guard phone authentication enabled.
Guess I'll turn that garbage back on and try MM, thanks for the input!
I just realized I get the pass for free if I have steam guard phone authentication enabled.
Guess I'll turn that garbage back on and try MM, thanks for the input!
samifaceI play a ton of MM because it's just a lot easier and faster to get games and I don't have to leave mumble. I honestly think the new ranking system they use now would be perfect- if there were a larger playerbase. While there's still only 30-100 people searching at any given time, it's going to keep plunking you in with permaspys/permapyros who think they are gods.
what new ranking system? you mean the hack they added to the old one that makes you rank up quicker at earlier ranks so not everyone's at rank 1?
and yes, your mm rank means nothing, i think it barely even matchmakes based on average rank
[quote=samiface]I play a ton of MM because it's just a lot easier and faster to get games and I don't have to leave mumble. I honestly think the new ranking system they use now would be perfect- if there were a larger playerbase. While there's still only 30-100 people searching at any given time, it's going to keep plunking you in with permaspys/permapyros who think they are gods.[/quote]
what new ranking system? you mean the hack they added to the old one that makes you rank up quicker at earlier ranks so not everyone's at rank 1?
and yes, your mm rank means nothing, i think it barely even matchmakes based on average rank
the301stspartanI just realized I get the pass for free if I have steam guard phone authentication enabled.
Guess I'll turn that garbage back on and try MM, thanks for the input!
You don't even need the steam guard authenticator. You just need a premium account (which you definitely already have) and a phone number attached to your Steam account (which you most likely already have if you had the steam guard enabled at any point in the past). You should be good to go already.
[quote=the301stspartan]I just realized I get the pass for free if I have steam guard phone authentication enabled.
Guess I'll turn that garbage back on and try MM, thanks for the input![/quote]
You don't even need the steam guard authenticator. You just need a premium account (which you definitely already have) and a phone number attached to your Steam account (which you most likely already have if you had the steam guard enabled at any point in the past). You should be good to go already.
Sounds like comp MM is pretty much perfect for you.
I'm rank 13 now and still get matched with rank 1 players all the time.
My own rank barely seems to make a difference in what ranks I get matched with.
Usually there's one or two guys who use their mic, but for the most part there's zero team play, the most you'll get as far as team play goes is a "medic down" or "fall back to last" here and there and a lot of "you useless fucking spy switch to heavy so you can at least help a little".
Most people do try to win and get frustrated if someone doesn't perform, but since the skill level is low the expectations what you have to do to not drag your team down is really low.
If you're getting good scores nobody will care if you don't communicate or don't play with your team.
Even if you don't do well, the only time people complain is if you play spy, engie or sniper and then bottom score (nobody really seems to mind pyros and most people actually love heavies on their teams because they know even bad players can do ok as heavy).
So yeah, if you're a decent player you can definitely play MM without paying attention and not piss anyone off.
Sounds like comp MM is pretty much perfect for you.
I'm rank 13 now and still get matched with rank 1 players all the time.
My own rank barely seems to make a difference in what ranks I get matched with.
Usually there's one or two guys who use their mic, but for the most part there's zero team play, the most you'll get as far as team play goes is a "medic down" or "fall back to last" here and there and a lot of "you useless fucking spy switch to heavy so you can at least help a little".
Most people do try to win and get frustrated if someone doesn't perform, but since the skill level is low the expectations what you have to do to not drag your team down is really low.
If you're getting good scores nobody will care if you don't communicate or don't play with your team.
Even if you don't do well, the only time people complain is if you play spy, engie or sniper and then bottom score (nobody really seems to mind pyros and most people actually love heavies on their teams because they know even bad players can do ok as heavy).
So yeah, if you're a decent player you can definitely play MM without paying attention and not piss anyone off.
A good way to get more competitive matches is to do parties. The system will forcibly match groups together and this tends to result in a higher skill level. Might mean you lose more often but the matches will have better players.
I'm rank 16 and while still get clueless players at times but there are usually at least 2-3 players on each team that know what they are doing. The biggest plus is that its fast compared to lobbies/mixes.
Still, I'm pretty much in your situation, don't have the time commitment to play on a team but want something more challenging than casual. I enjoy MM and I think you'll find it fits your needs.
A good way to get more competitive matches is to do parties. The system will forcibly match groups together and this tends to result in a higher skill level. Might mean you lose more often but the matches will have better players.
I'm rank 16 and while still get clueless players at times but there are usually at least 2-3 players on each team that know what they are doing. The biggest plus is that its fast compared to lobbies/mixes.
Still, I'm pretty much in your situation, don't have the time commitment to play on a team but want something more challenging than casual. I enjoy MM and I think you'll find it fits your needs.
It's also a lot more enjoyable if you have one or two other people to queue with, who you know you can rely on to understand the flow of the game and have okay DM. Matchmaking isn't actually that bad, a lot of the time it's more fun than pubs.
It's also a lot more enjoyable if you have one or two other people to queue with, who you know you can rely on to understand the flow of the game and have okay DM. Matchmaking isn't actually that bad, a lot of the time it's more fun than pubs.