JOEmustardoverlordmadoff
ha. next ur gonna say i cheated?
he literally got vac banned and switched accounts mid-season once
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[quote=JOE][quote=mustardoverlord]
madoff
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ha. next ur gonna say i cheated?[/quote]
he literally got vac banned and switched accounts mid-season once
madoff
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ha. next ur gonna say i cheated?[/quote]
he literally got vac banned and switched accounts mid-season once
FireGeel9GentlemanJonrocketslayI didn't say it made him a good person or that he improved people's lives by cheating. He got a ban, that's the end of it.GentlemanJonyeah i too enjoy ruining other people's fun in video games to feel good about myselfmlotta stupid shit is getting said here but cheating in a league setting vs spinbotting on a jailbreak map are two very different things please stop using slippery slope shit to equate themI don't get what people are up in arms about either. What difference does it make if someone straps on a cheat in another game to fuck around in a pub? Completely different to a competitive setting.
It displays a fundamental part of your character. If you're willing to cheat in a game, you can't be trusted to not cheat elsewhere. It's pretty much that simple.
I don't think this is how it works, ive cheated in a million offline games and never cheated on an online game (or for a more reallife comp neither do i Cheat in exams).
I think people on both sides of this would agree that we're discussing cheating in multiplayer games, since cheating in singleplayer games will only result in (potentionally) harming your own experience.
[quote=Fire][quote=Geel9][quote=GentlemanJon][quote=rocketslay][quote=GentlemanJon][quote=m]lotta stupid shit is getting said here but cheating in a league setting vs spinbotting on a jailbreak map are two very different things please stop using slippery slope shit to equate them[/quote]
I don't get what people are up in arms about either. What difference does it make if someone straps on a cheat in another game to fuck around in a pub? Completely different to a competitive setting.[/quote]
yeah i too enjoy ruining other people's fun in video games to feel good about myself[/quote]
I didn't say it made him a good person or that he improved people's lives by cheating. He got a ban, that's the end of it.[/quote]
It displays a fundamental part of your character. If you're willing to cheat in a game, you can't be trusted to not cheat elsewhere. It's pretty much that simple.[/quote]
I don't think this is how it works, ive cheated in a million offline games and never cheated on an online game (or for a more reallife comp neither do i Cheat in exams).[/quote]
I think people on both sides of this would agree that we're discussing cheating in multiplayer games, since cheating in singleplayer games will only result in (potentionally) harming your own experience.
I don't get what people are up in arms about either. What difference does it make if someone straps on a cheat in another game to fuck around in a pub? Completely different to a competitive setting.[/quote]
yeah i too enjoy ruining other people's fun in video games to feel good about myself[/quote]
I didn't say it made him a good person or that he improved people's lives by cheating. He got a ban, that's the end of it.[/quote]
It displays a fundamental part of your character. If you're willing to cheat in a game, you can't be trusted to not cheat elsewhere. It's pretty much that simple.[/quote]
I don't think this is how it works, ive cheated in a million offline games and never cheated on an online game (or for a more reallife comp neither do i Cheat in exams).[/quote]
I think people on both sides of this would agree that we're discussing cheating in multiplayer games, since cheating in singleplayer games will only result in (potentionally) harming your own experience.
wtzGeel9-protoNot everyone is a piece of garbage who cheats manaiera
That's typical bullshit. "Oh everyone else cheats so that normalizes my behaviour".
They don't. It doesn't. You're a dick if you cheat. End of story.
it's not that black and white, one decision doesn't define who you are.
surely you must've had one bad decision, one decision that hurt others - would you let others define you from that one experience?
Being a dick at one part of your life doesn't mean you have to be a dick for the rest of eternity. People change.
I've absolutely made mistakes and I've changed from them. I don't think that VAC bans should be permanent.
I do think, however, that cheating makes you a cheater. Maybe a cheater will change -- and if they do maybe there should be a way to improve their situation -- but if you're a cheater now, you should be banned now. From every competitive game. Because you are a cheater.
[quote=wtz][quote=Geel9][quote=-proto][quote=aiera][/quote]
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Not everyone is a piece of garbage who cheats man
That's typical bullshit. "Oh everyone else cheats so that normalizes my behaviour".
They don't. It doesn't. You're a dick if you cheat. End of story.[/quote]
it's not that black and white, one decision doesn't define who you are.
surely you must've had one bad decision, one decision that hurt others - would you let others define you from that one experience?
Being a dick at one part of your life doesn't mean you have to be a dick for the rest of eternity. [u]People change.[/u][/quote]
I've absolutely made mistakes and I've changed from them. I don't think that VAC bans should be permanent.
I do think, however, that cheating makes you a cheater. Maybe a cheater will change -- and if they do maybe there should be a way to improve their situation -- but if you're a cheater [b]now[/b], you should be banned now. From every competitive game. Because you are a cheater.
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Not everyone is a piece of garbage who cheats man
That's typical bullshit. "Oh everyone else cheats so that normalizes my behaviour".
They don't. It doesn't. You're a dick if you cheat. End of story.[/quote]
it's not that black and white, one decision doesn't define who you are.
surely you must've had one bad decision, one decision that hurt others - would you let others define you from that one experience?
Being a dick at one part of your life doesn't mean you have to be a dick for the rest of eternity. [u]People change.[/u][/quote]
I've absolutely made mistakes and I've changed from them. I don't think that VAC bans should be permanent.
I do think, however, that cheating makes you a cheater. Maybe a cheater will change -- and if they do maybe there should be a way to improve their situation -- but if you're a cheater [b]now[/b], you should be banned now. From every competitive game. Because you are a cheater.
wtzI think you have downs geel
Are you fucking kidding me?
[quote=wtz]
I think you have downs geel[/quote]
Are you fucking kidding me?
I think you have downs geel[/quote]
Are you fucking kidding me?
i can't believe you guys are still arguing over this
cheating in any stance is morally wrong
cheating in a competitive or league environment is morally wrong and a ban worthy offense
end of story
i can't believe you guys are still arguing over this
cheating in any stance is morally wrong
cheating in a competitive or league environment is morally wrong and a ban worthy offense
end of story
cheating in any stance is morally wrong
cheating in a competitive or league environment is morally wrong and a ban worthy offense
end of story
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