What's the deal with the 3360 sensor? Is it actually any better than older flawless Avago/Pixart sensors, or just hyped because it's the newest one?
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What's the deal with the 3360 sensor? Is it actually any better than older flawless Avago/Pixart sensors, or just hyped because it's the newest one?
It's, to my knowledge, the best one available along with logitech's exclusive 3366 and the 3989 used in the Deathadder Chroma. Realistically you won't notice a difference though, they're all great
It's, to my knowledge, the best one available along with logitech's exclusive 3366 and the 3989 used in the Deathadder Chroma. Realistically you won't notice a difference though, they're all great
What makes it better? Does it track better on more different surfaces, or have higher accurately tracking DPI range, etc? Just being realistic, I don't see how there could be any difference at all at low DPI on a cloth mousepad. Any optical sensor without accel, negative accel, smoothing or angle snapping should perform identically. Yet, there has to be some difference or else it would just be the same sensor.
What makes it better? Does it track better on more different surfaces, or have higher accurately tracking DPI range, etc? Just being realistic, I don't see how there could be any difference at all at low DPI on a cloth mousepad. Any optical sensor without accel, negative accel, smoothing or angle snapping should perform identically. Yet, there has to be some difference or else it would just be the same sensor.
RainofLightthe mousefeet on mine are too thin or something because the mouse scrapes my mousepad really bad with any amount of downward pressure applied.
I had to bend the m1 and m2 away from the center piece with the scroll wheel because the sides would have friction and create a squishy feel for the click
edit: I got an email reply after contacting support, it said this:
"Yes, we are looking into this. We are actually waiting for the feets to come in once they do we will inform everybody of its availability."
I actually really like the mousefeet for hard surfaces. Though they have some pretty sharp edges, if that might be what's breaking mousepads.
I didn't have that scroll wheel issue, but my scroll wheel is pretty close to M1 with a big gap between it and M2. It doesn't cause any issues but I can definitely see it fucking things up if it were a bit more to the left. Past that the build quality's been pretty good though.
lootWhat makes it better? Does it track better on more different surfaces, or have higher accurately tracking DPI range, etc? Just being realistic, I don't see how there could be any difference at all at low DPI on a cloth mousepad. Any optical sensor without accel, negative accel, smoothing or angle snapping should perform identically. Yet, there has to be some difference or else it would just be the same sensor.
According to PixArt's specs, for mouse design it's both smaller and requires less voltage (and they don't put weight but I'd assume lighter too), while supporting a higher max resolution (12000 dpi vs 5000 dpi) and a better twitch/max speed (250ips vs 130ips).
Realistically these aren't really important at all and pretty unlikely to ever come into play, so if you have a 3310 there's not really any need to upgrade. But at the same time you can get a Revel on massdrop for cheaper than any 3310 mice I've seen (correct me if I'm wrong), so if you're getting a new mouse you're not really getting cheated out of anything either.
[quote=RainofLight]the mousefeet on mine are too thin or something because the mouse scrapes my mousepad really bad with any amount of downward pressure applied.
I had to bend the m1 and m2 away from the center piece with the scroll wheel because the sides would have friction and create a squishy feel for the click
edit: I got an email reply after contacting support, it said this:
"Yes, we are looking into this. We are actually waiting for the feets to come in once they do we will inform everybody of its availability."[/quote]I actually really like the mousefeet for hard surfaces. Though they have some pretty sharp edges, if that might be what's breaking mousepads.
I didn't have that scroll wheel issue, but my scroll wheel is pretty close to M1 with a big gap between it and M2. It doesn't cause any issues but I can definitely see it fucking things up if it were a bit more to the left. Past that the build quality's been pretty good though.
[quote=loot]What makes it better? Does it track better on more different surfaces, or have higher accurately tracking DPI range, etc? Just being realistic, I don't see how there could be any difference at all at low DPI on a cloth mousepad. Any optical sensor without accel, negative accel, smoothing or angle snapping should perform identically. Yet, there has to be some difference or else it would just be the same sensor.[/quote]
According to PixArt's specs, for mouse design it's both smaller and requires less voltage (and they don't put weight but I'd assume lighter too), while supporting a higher max resolution (12000 dpi vs 5000 dpi) and a better twitch/max speed (250ips vs 130ips).
Realistically these aren't really important at all and pretty unlikely to ever come into play, so if you have a 3310 there's not really any need to upgrade. But at the same time you can get a Revel on massdrop for cheaper than any 3310 mice I've seen (correct me if I'm wrong), so if you're getting a new mouse you're not really getting cheated out of anything either.
I had to bend the m1 and m2 away from the center piece with the scroll wheel because the sides would have friction and create a squishy feel for the click
edit: I got an email reply after contacting support, it said this:
"Yes, we are looking into this. We are actually waiting for the feets to come in once they do we will inform everybody of its availability."[/quote]I actually really like the mousefeet for hard surfaces. Though they have some pretty sharp edges, if that might be what's breaking mousepads.
I didn't have that scroll wheel issue, but my scroll wheel is pretty close to M1 with a big gap between it and M2. It doesn't cause any issues but I can definitely see it fucking things up if it were a bit more to the left. Past that the build quality's been pretty good though.
[quote=loot]What makes it better? Does it track better on more different surfaces, or have higher accurately tracking DPI range, etc? Just being realistic, I don't see how there could be any difference at all at low DPI on a cloth mousepad. Any optical sensor without accel, negative accel, smoothing or angle snapping should perform identically. Yet, there has to be some difference or else it would just be the same sensor.[/quote]
According to PixArt's specs, for mouse design it's both smaller and requires less voltage (and they don't put weight but I'd assume lighter too), while supporting a higher max resolution (12000 dpi vs 5000 dpi) and a better twitch/max speed (250ips vs 130ips).
Realistically these aren't really important at all and pretty unlikely to ever come into play, so if you have a 3310 there's not really any need to upgrade. But at the same time you can get a Revel on massdrop for cheaper than any 3310 mice I've seen (correct me if I'm wrong), so if you're getting a new mouse you're not really getting cheated out of anything either.
I've had this month for like a month now, previously had the g303 and really liked but switched to this because it was a lighter and had a more standard shape. I love it so far and would definitely recommend, even if it was at a normal $60 price point. At ~$40 with shipping it's an absolute steal.
I've had this month for like a month now, previously had the g303 and really liked but switched to this because it was a lighter and had a more standard shape. I love it so far and would definitely recommend, even if it was at a normal $60 price point. At ~$40 with shipping it's an absolute steal.
i bought one and it's quite nice, especially considering how cheap it is
i bought one and it's quite nice, especially considering how cheap it is
Mini review of revel after having it for a couple months now. I have black rubberized, it's the updated version with taller feet, it also came with the 500Hz firmware already installed.
Misc notes: despite having identical base dimensions to a Steelseries Sensei, it feels different due to flatter back profile & less sloped sides. It actually makes it feel longer, so I prefer this shape for palm gripping over SS sensei (my fingertips are all the way at the ends of M1 and M2 though). Nice matte finish on top that doesn't get sweaty, very smooth plastic on the sides that does.
Pros:
+excellent sensor
+glides smoothly, nothing rubs or catches
+easy to hold and lift
+no rattle
+great scroll wheel
+I love the side buttons, especially for PTT
+virtually impossible to accidentally push the DPI button
+for the price it could be a piece of shit and still be a good purchase
Cons:
-I prefer something bigger & heavier (came from SS Rival, then MX518 for a while after that broke)
-the shell creaks audibly sometimes under my heavyhanded grip
-scroll wheel spring often makes noises when middle clicking
-loudest clicks of any mouse I've ever used (they feel good though)
-side plastic, though easy to grip, gets really sweaty (similar to glossy top plastic on MX518)
Verdict: Great purchase, impressive for the price, I'll use it for now but I'm hoping Nixeus' next mouse (they are supposedly working on an ergo shape) is bigger and heavier à la EC1, Rival 300, IME 3.0 etc
Mini review of revel after having it for a couple months now. I have black rubberized, it's the updated version with taller feet, it also came with the 500Hz firmware already installed.
Misc notes: despite having identical base dimensions to a Steelseries Sensei, it feels different due to flatter back profile & less sloped sides. It actually makes it feel longer, so I prefer this shape for palm gripping over SS sensei (my fingertips are [url=http://i.imgur.com/X2XeiBt.jpg]all the way at the ends of M1 and M2[/url] though). Nice matte finish on top that doesn't get sweaty, very smooth plastic on the sides that does.
Pros:
+excellent sensor
+glides smoothly, nothing rubs or catches
+easy to hold and lift
+no rattle
+great scroll wheel
+I love the side buttons, especially for PTT
+virtually impossible to accidentally push the DPI button
+for the price it could be a piece of shit and still be a good purchase
Cons:
-I prefer something bigger & heavier (came from SS Rival, then MX518 for a while after that broke)
-the shell creaks audibly sometimes under my heavyhanded grip
-scroll wheel spring often makes noises when middle clicking
-loudest clicks of any mouse I've ever used (they feel good though)
-side plastic, though easy to grip, gets really sweaty (similar to glossy top plastic on MX518)
Verdict: Great purchase, impressive for the price, I'll use it for now but I'm hoping Nixeus' next mouse (they are supposedly working on an ergo shape) is bigger and heavier à la EC1, Rival 300, IME 3.0 etc
Misc notes: despite having identical base dimensions to a Steelseries Sensei, it feels different due to flatter back profile & less sloped sides. It actually makes it feel longer, so I prefer this shape for palm gripping over SS sensei (my fingertips are [url=http://i.imgur.com/X2XeiBt.jpg]all the way at the ends of M1 and M2[/url] though). Nice matte finish on top that doesn't get sweaty, very smooth plastic on the sides that does.
Pros:
+excellent sensor
+glides smoothly, nothing rubs or catches
+easy to hold and lift
+no rattle
+great scroll wheel
+I love the side buttons, especially for PTT
+virtually impossible to accidentally push the DPI button
+for the price it could be a piece of shit and still be a good purchase
Cons:
-I prefer something bigger & heavier (came from SS Rival, then MX518 for a while after that broke)
-the shell creaks audibly sometimes under my heavyhanded grip
-scroll wheel spring often makes noises when middle clicking
-loudest clicks of any mouse I've ever used (they feel good though)
-side plastic, though easy to grip, gets really sweaty (similar to glossy top plastic on MX518)
Verdict: Great purchase, impressive for the price, I'll use it for now but I'm hoping Nixeus' next mouse (they are supposedly working on an ergo shape) is bigger and heavier à la EC1, Rival 300, IME 3.0 etc
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