Windows 10 64bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs)
MSI GeForce GTX 980
16GB Ram
I expect this rig to be able to handle 144 frames constant. I've been through countless FPS configs (Comanglias, Chris's, custom ones, etc), messed around with launch options and console commands, checked my temperatures, reinstalled drivers, disabled shadowplay and a bunch of other stuff, but yet I find myself dipping consistently when I'm not playing something like Badlands 6s.
Am I mistaken? Is the rig not good enough? Or is TF2 just shit?
Windows 10 64bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs)
MSI GeForce GTX 980
16GB Ram
I expect this rig to be able to handle 144 frames constant. I've been through countless FPS configs (Comanglias, Chris's, custom ones, etc), messed around with launch options and console commands, checked my temperatures, reinstalled drivers, disabled shadowplay and a bunch of other stuff, but yet I find myself dipping consistently when I'm not playing something like Badlands 6s.
Am I mistaken? Is the rig not good enough? Or is TF2 just shit?
Power Options set to High Performance? Disabling Xbox DVR?
Also what do you consider a dip?
Power Options set to High Performance? [url=https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6239-DZCB-8600]Disabling Xbox DVR? [/url]
Also what do you consider a dip?
Yep to both.
And down to 80 or so. 70 on Upward (though I assume that map is still trash.)
Yep to both.
And down to 80 or so. 70 on Upward (though I assume that map is still trash.)
Carlotso25Yep to both.
And down to 80 or so. 70 on Upward (though I assume that map is still trash.)
You still have my config installed?
Do you have shadows enabled?
Do you have the no hats mod?
[quote=Carlotso25]Yep to both.
And down to 80 or so. 70 on Upward (though I assume that map is still trash.)[/quote]
You still have my config installed?
Do you have shadows enabled?
Do you have the no hats mod?
Comangliago to your Nvidia Control panel settings "Manage 3D settings" go to "Program settings" and either under TF2 or Global (if you want this to affect every game) set "maximum pre-rendered frames" to 1. Seriously every competitive player should do this for the game they play, if they have an nvidia card. AMD users are typically defaulted to 1 for FPS games and 2 for almost everything else so it's not as big of an issue.
I've read that sometimes CPU bound games get a FPS boost from this (this hasn't been the case for me afaik but it's been awhile) should also decrease your overall input lag if you haven't done this.
also forgot to ask which -dxlevel do you use?
[quote=Comanglia]go to your Nvidia Control panel settings "Manage 3D settings" go to "Program settings" and either under TF2 or Global (if you want this to affect every game) set "maximum pre-rendered frames" to 1. Seriously every competitive player should do this for the game they play, if they have an nvidia card. AMD users are typically defaulted to 1 for FPS games and 2 for almost everything else so it's not as big of an issue.[/quote]
I've read that sometimes CPU bound games get a FPS boost from this (this hasn't been the case for me afaik but it's been awhile) should also decrease your overall input lag if you haven't done this.
also forgot to ask which -dxlevel do you use?
Shall give this a go, cheers.
Shall give this a go, cheers.
Seems relatively the same. Think I'm going to clean my CFG's and launch options and try fresh. Which of your configs do you recommend? And which is the in thing atm, DX9 or 8?
Also I check my Task Manager, and TF2 isn't even taking up 20% on the cpu. I don't know.
*Edit* I've tried em all. Right now I'm testing on 81. Haven't stuck to one inparticular.
Seems relatively the same. Think I'm going to clean my CFG's and launch options and try fresh. Which of your configs do you recommend? And which is the in thing atm, DX9 or 8?
Also I check my Task Manager, and TF2 isn't even taking up 20% on the cpu. I don't know.
*Edit* I've tried em all. Right now I'm testing on 81. Haven't stuck to one inparticular.
Carlotso25Seems relatively the same. Think I'm going to clean my CFG's and launch options and try fresh. Which of your configs do you recommend? And which is the in thing atm, DX9 or 8?
Also I check my Task Manager, and TF2 isn't even taking up 20% on the cpu. I don't know.
*Edit* I've tried em all. Right now I'm testing on 81. Haven't stuck to one inparticular.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3l82p8udwrq680d/gfx.cfg?dl=0
this one for you at least, going to be adding a couple more commands to it later today/tomorrow
Also 20% cpu usage sounds about right for 8 threaded cpus.
But yeah with your setup you minimum fps for DX 8.1 no shadows, no hats, my fps config, should be roughly around ~140 in a 24 person server.
[quote=Carlotso25]Seems relatively the same. Think I'm going to clean my CFG's and launch options and try fresh. Which of your configs do you recommend? And which is the in thing atm, DX9 or 8?
Also I check my Task Manager, and TF2 isn't even taking up 20% on the cpu. I don't know.
*Edit* I've tried em all. Right now I'm testing on 81. Haven't stuck to one inparticular.[/quote]
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3l82p8udwrq680d/gfx.cfg?dl=0
this one for you at least, going to be adding a couple more commands to it later today/tomorrow
Also 20% cpu usage sounds about right for 8 threaded cpus.
But yeah with your setup you minimum fps for DX 8.1 no shadows, no hats, my fps config, should be roughly around ~140 in a 24 person server.
Alright thanks, shall mess around with that. Did a quick benchmark with that which supports what you say
2639 frames 17.721 seconds 148.92 fps ( 6.72 ms/f) 13.685 fps variability
Shall monitor and report back, thanks.
Alright thanks, shall mess around with that. Did a quick benchmark with that which supports what you say
[quote]2639 frames 17.721 seconds 148.92 fps ( 6.72 ms/f) 13.685 fps variability[/quote]
Shall monitor and report back, thanks.
Yeah, played around a bit on 24 man servers cross some maps, lowest I dipped was 132 or so, significantly better. Will chalk that up to just having net_graph open. Thanks.
If I were to upgrade my rig for TF2 purposes, do you have any recommendations?
I'm on a Gigabyte H97-D3H for motherboard.
Yeah, played around a bit on 24 man servers cross some maps, lowest I dipped was 132 or so, significantly better. Will chalk that up to just having net_graph open. Thanks.
If I were to upgrade my rig for TF2 purposes, do you have any recommendations?
I'm on a Gigabyte H97-D3H for motherboard.
Carlotso25Yeah, played around a bit on 24 man servers cross some maps, lowest I dipped was 132 or so, significantly better. Will chalk that up to just having net_graph open. Thanks.
If I were to upgrade my rig for TF2 purposes, do you have any recommendations?
I'm on a Gigabyte H97-D3H for motherboard.
Setsul will have the best answers, but for the most part intel i7 if you plan on doing background stuff or video editing along with playing TF2 or an i5. If you can handle overclocking get an overclocking variant and get some good cooling for your CPU and OC it to somewhere in the 4.5-5GHz range. 4.5GHz should be relatively easy to get with most i7 and i5 k series CPUs just don't put the voltage above 1.4 unless you REALLY know what you're doing. Otherwise high speed ram with low Cas Latency is the next best thing to recommend.
Example of my PC build
► Main Board: Asus Z87-A ATX
► CPU: Intel i7-4790K @4.8 GHz
► SSD: Crucial M4 SSD 250GB
►Hard Drive: 1TB SeaGate 7200RPM
► CPU Fan: Phanteks PH-TC14PE
► GPU: ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG STRIX OC
► Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 32GB 1866MHz
► PSU: Cooler Master VSM 650W 80+ Gold
► Windows: W10 64-Bit
► Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Gun Metal)
My minimum FPS in a 24 person badwater server is 205 in DX 9
[quote=Carlotso25]Yeah, played around a bit on 24 man servers cross some maps, lowest I dipped was 132 or so, significantly better. Will chalk that up to just having net_graph open. Thanks.
If I were to upgrade my rig for TF2 purposes, do you have any recommendations?
I'm on a Gigabyte H97-D3H for motherboard.[/quote]
Setsul will have the best answers, but for the most part intel i7 if you plan on doing background stuff or video editing along with playing TF2 or an i5. If you can handle overclocking get an overclocking variant and get some good cooling for your CPU and OC it to somewhere in the 4.5-5GHz range. 4.5GHz should be relatively easy to get with most i7 and i5 k series CPUs just don't put the voltage above 1.4 unless you REALLY know what you're doing. Otherwise high speed ram with low Cas Latency is the next best thing to recommend.
Example of my PC build
► Main Board: Asus Z87-A ATX
► CPU: Intel i7-4790K @4.8 GHz
► SSD: Crucial M4 SSD 250GB
►Hard Drive: 1TB SeaGate 7200RPM
► CPU Fan: Phanteks PH-TC14PE
► GPU: ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG STRIX OC
► Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 32GB 1866MHz
► PSU: Cooler Master VSM 650W 80+ Gold
► Windows: W10 64-Bit
► Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Gun Metal)
My minimum FPS in a 24 person badwater server is 205 in DX 9
Carlotso25If I were to upgrade my rig for TF2 purposes, do you have any recommendations?
I'm on a Gigabyte H97-D3H for motherboard.
Budget?
[quote=Carlotso25]
If I were to upgrade my rig for TF2 purposes, do you have any recommendations?
I'm on a Gigabyte H97-D3H for motherboard.[/quote]
Budget?
SetsulBudget?
Maybe £1200 or so? Could push a little more perhaps, but give or take that. My full rig currently is
► Main Board: Gigabyte H97-D3H ATX
► CPU: Intel i7-4790 (Not overclockable) @3.6 GHz
► SSD: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB
► Hard Drive: 1.5TB SeaGate 5900RPM
► GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980
► Memory: HyperX FURY Series 16GB 1600MHz
► PSU: Corsair CXM 600W Modular 80 Bronze
► Windows: W10 64-Bit
► Case: Corsair CC-9011077-WW Carbide 100R Mid-Tower ATX
[quote=Setsul]
Budget?[/quote]
Maybe £1200 or so? Could push a little more perhaps, but give or take that. My full rig currently is
► Main Board: Gigabyte H97-D3H ATX
► CPU: Intel i7-4790 (Not overclockable) @3.6 GHz
► SSD: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB
► Hard Drive: 1.5TB SeaGate 5900RPM
► GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980
► Memory: HyperX FURY Series 16GB 1600MHz
► PSU: Corsair CXM 600W Modular 80 Bronze
► Windows: W10 64-Bit
► Case: Corsair CC-9011077-WW Carbide 100R Mid-Tower ATX
Assuming you still want to stream or whatever you bought the i7 for:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£310.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (£39.41 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£105.64 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (£104.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £559.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-02 11:13 BST+0100
Keep the rest.
If you don't want to oc just swap the 4790 for a 4790K but the difference is only 10%, not really worth it.
Assuming you still want to stream or whatever you bought the i7 for:
[url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rn9dwV]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rn9dwV/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/VKx9TW/intel-core-i7-7700k-42ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i77700k]Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£310.90 @ Alza)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/9bFPxr/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk019]be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] (£39.41 @ Novatech)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/WxkwrH/asrock-z270-pro4-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z270-pro4]ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] (£105.64 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/j8FPxr/a-data-memory-ax4u2800w8g17drz]ADATA XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory[/url] (£104.00 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Total:[/b] £559.95
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-02 11:13 BST+0100[/i]
Keep the rest.
If you don't want to oc just swap the 4790 for a 4790K but the difference is only 10%, not really worth it.
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