So we ran newbie mixes the past 2 days and I think what we'll do is host 2 kinds of mixes:
1) Scheduled ones. This means that coaches and newbies can make plans to participate in these mixes. My plan is to do Saturday and Friday night mixes.
2) Unscheduled ones. The old newbie mix was only one night a week and a lot of players *really* didn't like that. I want to help make newbie mixes whenever so that we can always reach new people and not just the same newbies every week. It's good to have people come back, but hopefully they figure out how to use tf2mix, or pugna or something at some point.
Tell me what you guys think about this plan.
In addition I need more coaches, so PLEASE add to the group if you can coach. All you have to do is show up to the tragic mumble whenever you have a little time. If you have another coach that wants to play and you both are just sitting around, message me or another admin and we'll get a mix started. I really want these to happen spontaneously like a PUG group as well as scheduled so we can have events like two nights ago when Brad and Sal came and streamed/casted newbie mixes.
So we ran newbie mixes the past 2 days and I think what we'll do is host 2 kinds of mixes:
1) Scheduled ones. This means that coaches and newbies can make plans to participate in these mixes. My plan is to do Saturday and Friday night mixes.
2) Unscheduled ones. The old newbie mix was only one night a week and a lot of players *really* didn't like that. I want to help make newbie mixes whenever so that we can always reach new people and not just the same newbies every week. It's good to have people come back, but hopefully they figure out how to use tf2mix, or pugna or something at some point.
Tell me what you guys think about this plan.
In addition I need more coaches, so PLEASE add to the group if you can coach. All you have to do is show up to the tragic mumble whenever you have a little time. If you have another coach that wants to play and you both are just sitting around, message me or another admin and we'll get a mix started. I really want these to happen spontaneously like a PUG group as well as scheduled so we can have events like two nights ago when Brad and Sal came and streamed/casted newbie mixes.
We need to have 1 scheduled one so that we can advertise it properly. I'm still hoping for next saturday as it gives enough time to try and get a list of mentors who are available and a bunch of new people time to buy a mic/download mumble/learn rollouts
We need to have 1 scheduled one so that we can advertise it properly. I'm still hoping for next saturday as it gives enough time to try and get a list of mentors who are available and a bunch of new people time to buy a mic/download mumble/learn rollouts
The coaches issue, if you're thinking about helping out, you don't need to be some amazing carry player. You just need to be able to answer a question that someone might have, and if they really have no idea what they are doing, give them a basic layout of what their class should be doing.
So assuming you have some patience, and some basic knowledge of 6's. You be a good coach.
Tho for note you won't get to play your favorite class, and might even get stuck playing something you completely suck at, but that isn't the point of these, its trying to bring in new players to our relatively small community.
And I stream all of the mix's I'm apart of and point it out to at least my team, so they can go check it out if they really want to.
The coaches issue, if you're thinking about helping out, you don't need to be some amazing carry player. You just need to be able to answer a question that someone might have, and if they really have no idea what they are doing, give them a basic layout of what their class should be doing.
So assuming you have some patience, and some basic knowledge of 6's. You be a good coach.
Tho for note you won't get to play your favorite class, and might even get stuck playing something you completely suck at, but that isn't the point of these, its trying to bring in new players to our relatively small community.
And I stream all of the mix's I'm apart of and point it out to at least my team, so they can go check it out if they really want to.
I'd also be interested in working with a streamer and some other people / coaches to cast some of these mixes, as I know a few were casted before.
I'd also be interested in working with a streamer and some other people / coaches to cast some of these mixes, as I know a few were casted before.
TerywjI'd also be interested in working with a streamer and some other people / coaches to cast some of these mixes, as I know a few were casted before.
this seems like a cool idea :)
[quote=Terywj]I'd also be interested in working with a streamer and some other people / coaches to cast some of these mixes, as I know a few were casted before.[/quote]
this seems like a cool idea :)
Having played a lot of newbie mixes this weekend, it seems like there are some very common mistakes or misunderstandings that newer players tend to have each time, and there isn't really time to explain all those things while you're playing or right after a game. I think it would be really helpful to create articles or videos going over these things...I mean some things you just need to learn from experience, but having concepts introduced or reinforced in an article or something might help them learn it faster.
Just off the top of my head I think it would help to go over things like obvious hiding spots, when/where to expect to get flanked, capitalizing on player/health/positioning advantages, how to get picks, not having your whole team cap a point, how to not play roamer like a pocket, going to health packs instead of your medic, when and when not to peek/take damage/go for risky plays, crit heals and heal priorities, where people should generally be holding at different points, basic positioning concepts and not giving up space for free, not being overly afraid of committing/dying, when/how to use kritz, where/when you should use uber and how to create a more favorable uber exchange, what classes to focus in different situations...
I'm not the most experienced player ever and I'm definitely no Sigma of TF2 insight, but I do understand a lot of those things (regardless of my inability to actually apply them when I'm playing sometimes lol) and could maybe attempt to write out some of them, in consultation with better players. I don't have a whole lot of time though, so it would take a while.
Having played a lot of newbie mixes this weekend, it seems like there are some very common mistakes or misunderstandings that newer players tend to have each time, and there isn't really time to explain all those things while you're playing or right after a game. I think it would be really helpful to create articles or videos going over these things...I mean some things you just need to learn from experience, but having concepts introduced or reinforced in an article or something might help them learn it faster.
Just off the top of my head I think it would help to go over things like obvious hiding spots, when/where to expect to get flanked, capitalizing on player/health/positioning advantages, how to get picks, not having your whole team cap a point, how to not play roamer like a pocket, going to health packs instead of your medic, when and when not to peek/take damage/go for risky plays, crit heals and heal priorities, where people should generally be holding at different points, basic positioning concepts and not giving up space for free, not being overly afraid of committing/dying, when/how to use kritz, where/when you should use uber and how to create a more favorable uber exchange, what classes to focus in different situations...
I'm not the most experienced player ever and I'm definitely no Sigma of TF2 insight, but I do understand a lot of those things (regardless of my inability to actually apply them when I'm playing sometimes lol) and could maybe attempt to write out some of them, in consultation with better players. I don't have a whole lot of time though, so it would take a while.
I'd be happy to either cast or coach some of these time permitting (I have a decent amount of time for a few weeks)
yuki` on gamesurge IRC or just add me on steam I guess (prefer IRC as I don't add many people to steam :x).
I'd be happy to either cast or coach some of these time permitting (I have a decent amount of time for a few weeks)
yuki` on gamesurge IRC or just add me on steam I guess (prefer IRC as I don't add many people to steam :x).
go for it swiper and hopefully someone can edit it if it needs to be tweaked
go for it swiper and hopefully someone can edit it if it needs to be tweaked
swiperHaving played a lot of newbie mixes this weekend, it seems like there are some very common mistakes or misunderstandings that newer players tend to have each time, and there isn't really time to explain all those things while you're playing or right after a game. I think it would be really helpful to create articles or videos going over these things...I mean some things you just need to learn from experience, but having concepts introduced or reinforced in an article or something might help them learn it faster.
Just off the top of my head I think it would help to go over things like obvious hiding spots, when/where to expect to get flanked, capitalizing on player/health/positioning advantages, how to get picks, not having your whole team cap a point, how to not play roamer like a pocket, going to health packs instead of your medic, when and when not to peek/take damage/go for risky plays, crit heals and heal priorities, where people should generally be holding at different points, basic positioning concepts and not giving up space for free, not being overly afraid of committing/dying, when/how to use kritz, where/when you should use uber and how to create a more favorable uber exchange, what classes to focus in different situations...
I'm not the most experienced player ever and I'm definitely no Sigma of TF2 insight, but I do understand a lot of those things (regardless of my inability to actually apply them when I'm playing sometimes lol) and could maybe attempt to write out some of them, in consultation with better players. I don't have a whole lot of time though, so it would take a while.
This would be great to have. Maybe the coaches could set aside a day where people can come into mumble and ask a bunch of questions?
[quote=swiper]Having played a lot of newbie mixes this weekend, it seems like there are some very common mistakes or misunderstandings that newer players tend to have each time, and there isn't really time to explain all those things while you're playing or right after a game. I think it would be really helpful to create articles or videos going over these things...I mean some things you just need to learn from experience, but having concepts introduced or reinforced in an article or something might help them learn it faster.
Just off the top of my head I think it would help to go over things like obvious hiding spots, when/where to expect to get flanked, capitalizing on player/health/positioning advantages, how to get picks, not having your whole team cap a point, how to not play roamer like a pocket, going to health packs instead of your medic, when and when not to peek/take damage/go for risky plays, crit heals and heal priorities, where people should generally be holding at different points, basic positioning concepts and not giving up space for free, not being overly afraid of committing/dying, when/how to use kritz, where/when you should use uber and how to create a more favorable uber exchange, what classes to focus in different situations...
I'm not the most experienced player ever and I'm definitely no Sigma of TF2 insight, but I do understand a lot of those things (regardless of my inability to actually apply them when I'm playing sometimes lol) and could maybe attempt to write out some of them, in consultation with better players. I don't have a whole lot of time though, so it would take a while.[/quote]
This would be great to have. Maybe the coaches could set aside a day where people can come into mumble and ask a bunch of questions?
I can set up tutoring sessions or like open clinics for any coaches that want to do it. It can be like a real time AMA.
I can set up tutoring sessions or like open clinics for any coaches that want to do it. It can be like a real time AMA.
I had fun playing in them and everyone was pretty cool. Does anyone have a guide or something for setting up and connecting to the IRC channels? I've tried on my own and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the things working.
I had fun playing in them and everyone was pretty cool. Does anyone have a guide or something for setting up and connecting to the IRC channels? I've tried on my own and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the things working.
GigaI had fun playing in them and everyone was pretty cool. Does anyone have a guide or something for setting up and connecting to the IRC channels? I've tried on my own and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the things working.
At the top of the page there's a tab called IRC chat, next to streams. That should be good enough.
[quote=Giga]I had fun playing in them and everyone was pretty cool. Does anyone have a guide or something for setting up and connecting to the IRC channels? I've tried on my own and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the things working.[/quote]
At the top of the page there's a tab called IRC chat, next to streams. That should be good enough.
GigaI had fun playing in them and everyone was pretty cool. Does anyone have a guide or something for setting up and connecting to the IRC channels? I've tried on my own and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the things working.
atf2.org
Also, we made a group for newbie mix coaches, so if anyone is interested in coaching EVER, please add up to the group.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/newbiemixcoaches
It's invite only, so please only invite people who you think will be good coaches (basically anyone that can main call).
[quote=Giga]I had fun playing in them and everyone was pretty cool. Does anyone have a guide or something for setting up and connecting to the IRC channels? I've tried on my own and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the things working.[/quote]
atf2.org
Also, we made a group for newbie mix coaches, so if anyone is interested in coaching EVER, please add up to the group.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/newbiemixcoaches
It's invite only, so please only invite people who you think will be good coaches (basically anyone that can main call).