Heeelloo bois first time poster here.
I currently have an AMD Athlon X4 840 in my pc and am looking for a temp replacement until I can get a real gaming pc
I have considered the Athlon X4 870K and Athlon X4 845
The first one has a higher cpu clock and is also unlocked (tho I don't know how to properly overclock and if my mobo is capable enough) but the second one has better single thread performance (according to cpubenchmark.net)
In other words, which is more important for tf2- clock speed or single thread performance?
For future I think I will get an intel cpu, cuz I really only play tf2 with some open world FPS, sandbox or racing games when I get bored and don't really do content creation/streaming
Looking at about 150 dollars (maybe even more). I currently have a gtx 1060 6gb (MASSIVE bottleneck)
edit: lul poor
Heeelloo bois first time poster here.
I currently have an AMD Athlon X4 840 in my pc and am looking for a temp replacement until I can get a real gaming pc
I have considered the Athlon X4 870K and Athlon X4 845
The first one has a higher cpu clock and is also unlocked (tho I don't know how to properly overclock and if my mobo is capable enough) but the second one has better single thread performance (according to cpubenchmark.net)
In other words, which is more important for tf2- clock speed or single thread performance?
For future I think I will get an intel cpu, cuz I really only play tf2 with some open world FPS, sandbox or racing games when I get bored and don't really do content creation/streaming
Looking at about 150 dollars (maybe even more). I currently have a gtx 1060 6gb (MASSIVE bottleneck)
edit: lul poor
PC components make me fretful,
With this chant I summon Setsul
PC components make me fretful,
With this chant I summon Setsul
I wouldn't Upgrade at all!
Those three processors are all performing quite the same, if you're currently rocking the 840 it's quite useless to spent another 70 Euros on those 7-13% higher performance.
Save up for a new motherboard and buy a Ryzen 2xxx or the newest Generation getting released in July. Will cost you around 400 Euros with new RAM because FM2+ is still DDR3.
That will also be more future proof since I really don't like Intels way of handling things with their mainboard Generations.
I dont understand If youre willing to spent 150 dollars on the temporary replacement or for the complete gaming PC.
Now I made you this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2bppmq
Will prolly play those racing games and stuff with good fps.
Hope I helped a bit.
I wouldn't Upgrade at all!
Those three processors are all performing quite the same, if you're currently rocking the 840 it's quite useless to spent another 70 Euros on those 7-13% higher performance.
Save up for a new motherboard and buy a Ryzen 2xxx or the newest Generation getting released in July. Will cost you around 400 Euros with new RAM because FM2+ is still DDR3.
That will also be more future proof since I really don't like Intels way of handling things with their mainboard Generations.
I dont understand If youre willing to spent 150 dollars on the temporary replacement or for the complete gaming PC.
Now I made you this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2bppmq
Will prolly play those racing games and stuff with good fps.
Hope I helped a bit.
Athlon X4 840, 870K, and Athlon X4 845 are literally the same CPU at slightly different clocks.
Athlon X4 840, 870K, and Athlon X4 845 are literally the same CPU at slightly different clocks.
Well looks like everyone recommends me to go AMD
Honestly that makes sense. While Intel (budget cpus atleast) are almost purely for gaming, AMD are good all-around cpus. Maybe I will even do some vids on youtube or something with these extra cores and threads. And I have quite a lot of games on my list to play.
Thank you all for help, I will definitely buy Ryzen 5 2600x (or possibly the third gen).
Well looks like everyone recommends me to go AMD
Honestly that makes sense. While Intel (budget cpus atleast) are almost purely for gaming, AMD are good all-around cpus. Maybe I will even do some vids on youtube or something with these extra cores and threads. And I have quite a lot of games on my list to play.
Thank you all for help, I will definitely buy Ryzen 5 2600x (or possibly the third gen).
NaxeronI currently have an AMD Athlon X4 840 in my pc and am looking for a temp replacement until I can get a real gaming pc
I have considered the Athlon X4 870K and Athlon X4 845
Not worth it like others have said, it would be a minimal difference.
NaxeronThe first one has a higher cpu clock and is also unlocked (tho I don't know how to properly overclock and if my mobo is capable enough) but the second one has better single thread performance (according to cpubenchmark.net)
In other words, which is more important for tf2- clock speed or single thread performance?
Single threaded performance although passmark is not the most accurate for that.
But a 2600X at 4.0 will run circles around an 870K at 4.0 Ghz.
NaxeronFor future I think I will get an intel cpu, cuz I really only play tf2 with some open world FPS, sandbox or racing games when I get bored and don't really do content creation/streaming
The tradeoff is more cores + lower clockrate vs fewer cores + higher clockrate, not Intel vs AMD.
NaxeronLooking at about 150 dollars (maybe even more). I currently have a gtx 1060 6gb (MASSIVE bottleneck)
Yeah, proper upgrade for 400-ish would be better and last longer. Maybe less. Even a 2200G would be an upgrade and we don't know what the prices for the next gen will be like.
In TF2 the 1060 is definitely not a bottleneck. What games are we talking about?
NaxeronWhile Intel (budget cpus atleast) are almost purely for gaming, AMD are good all-around cpus. Maybe I will even do some vids on youtube or something with these extra cores and threads.
Not really. AMD CPUs are better on a budget right now because they're simply cheaper for a given core-/threadcount and all of them are overclockable. E.g. 4 cores/4 threads starts at 99$ and 3.7 GHz for AMD and you could still oc that, Intel starts at 117$ for 3.6 GHz (roughly the same single threaded performance) but it's locked. At 6c/12t it's 199$, 3.9 GHz overclockable vs 303$ 4.6 GHz locked. Sure the 4.6 GHz are nice for games but if you're on a budget it's not really a choice. If you need the threads it's obvious what you should buy, it's just that if you don't need the threads then there are some reasonable Intel options available like 6c/6t 4.1 GHz for 182$. Both are perfectly reasonable good all-around sub-200$ CPUs, but one of them got a massive advantage if you use more than 6 threads.
tl;dr
Wait, save up some money, see what Ryzen 3xxx brings. Maybe you don't need a 6 core CPU. Maybe 4 cores/8 threads is perfectly fine. If there's a Ryzen 3xxx CPU with 4 cores and high clockrates for 150$ then that's a better choice for games than the 2600X.
driftawhy didn't my chant work
Your summoning power is weak af. Novices should at least draw a proper summoning circle to act as a multiplier.
[quote=Naxeron]I currently have an AMD Athlon X4 840 in my pc and am looking for a temp replacement until I can get a real gaming pc
I have considered the Athlon X4 870K and Athlon X4 845
[/quote]
Not worth it like others have said, it would be a minimal difference.
[quote=Naxeron]
The first one has a higher cpu clock and is also unlocked (tho I don't know how to properly overclock and if my mobo is capable enough) but the second one has better single thread performance (according to cpubenchmark.net)
In other words, which is more important for tf2- clock speed or single thread performance?[/quote]
Single threaded performance although passmark is not the most accurate for that.
But a 2600X at 4.0 will run circles around an 870K at 4.0 Ghz.
[quote=Naxeron]
For future I think I will get an intel cpu, cuz I really only play tf2 with some open world FPS, sandbox or racing games when I get bored and don't really do content creation/streaming[/quote]
The tradeoff is more cores + lower clockrate vs fewer cores + higher clockrate, not Intel vs AMD.
[quote=Naxeron]
Looking at about 150 dollars (maybe even more). I currently have a gtx 1060 6gb (MASSIVE bottleneck)[/quote]
Yeah, proper upgrade for 400-ish would be better and last longer. Maybe less. Even a 2200G would be an upgrade and we don't know what the prices for the next gen will be like.
In TF2 the 1060 is definitely not a bottleneck. What games are we talking about?
[quote=Naxeron]While Intel (budget cpus atleast) are almost purely for gaming, AMD are good all-around cpus. Maybe I will even do some vids on youtube or something with these extra cores and threads.[/quote]
Not really. AMD CPUs are better on a budget right now because they're simply cheaper for a given core-/threadcount and all of them are overclockable. E.g. 4 cores/4 threads starts at 99$ and 3.7 GHz for AMD and you could still oc that, Intel starts at 117$ for 3.6 GHz (roughly the same single threaded performance) but it's locked. At 6c/12t it's 199$, 3.9 GHz overclockable vs 303$ 4.6 GHz locked. Sure the 4.6 GHz are nice for games but if you're on a budget it's not really a choice. If you need the threads it's obvious what you should buy, it's just that if you don't need the threads then there are some reasonable Intel options available like 6c/6t 4.1 GHz for 182$. Both are perfectly reasonable good all-around sub-200$ CPUs, but one of them got a massive advantage if you use more than 6 threads.
tl;dr
Wait, save up some money, see what Ryzen 3xxx brings. Maybe you don't need a 6 core CPU. Maybe 4 cores/8 threads is perfectly fine. If there's a Ryzen 3xxx CPU with 4 cores and high clockrates for 150$ then that's a better choice for games than the 2600X.
[quote=drifta]why didn't my chant work[/quote]
Your summoning power is weak af. Novices should at least draw a proper summoning circle to act as a multiplier.