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Looking for advice and a fresh outlook
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#1
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I don't think it's any surprise to anyone that, as of now, I'm a bad medic that needs some solid fundamentals to be kicked in. I thought that playing pugs would improve my skills, and they have to some degree, but I can tell people are getting frustrated and that is not what I want to do.
I have spoken to a few people, and they say to get into a team, get demo reviews and watch other better players.
Definitely will put more time and effort into that, but any other advice and criticisms are welcome too.

Just want to say I am still new to the comp scene and I want to improve my skills as a player - and a person too. I think I have come across as annoying to some, from what I've said or done - really sorry if I have, I'll try not to in the future.
I don't intend to make enemies at all or ever for that matter, so if you have any qualms or anything at all - feel free to post it here, I won't judge :)

I don't think it's any surprise to anyone that, as of now, I'm a bad medic that needs some solid fundamentals to be kicked in. I thought that playing pugs would improve my skills, and they have to some degree, but I can tell people are getting frustrated and that is not what I want to do.
I have spoken to a few people, and they say to get into a team, get demo reviews and watch other better players.
Definitely will put more time and effort into that, but any other advice and criticisms are welcome too.

Just want to say I am still new to the comp scene and I want to improve my skills as a player - and a person too. I think I have come across as annoying to some, from what I've said or done - really sorry if I have, I'll try not to in the future.
I don't intend to make enemies at all or ever for that matter, so if you have any qualms or anything at all - feel free to post it here, I won't judge :)
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#2
6 Frags +

the grind never stops

the grind never stops
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#3
36 Frags +

from what i've noticed with you pugging in NA, its been a couple things

a) you have 120 ping so thats going to suck obv

b) you typically play in pugs with people that hover anywhere from mid mainish to low invite, and when you don't have any real experience in 6s you're always going to be playing against players that are better than you. playing against players better than you is 100% the best way to improve, but the skill levels have to be somewhat similar and i do think you might be playing in pugs that might be out of your 'improveable' skillrange sometimes (compounded with the 120 ping)

joining a team will always be the best way to improve. you'll be playing with people generally around the same skill level as you that want to improve, and you'll consistently be scrimming against people of similar skill as well

it takes a special person to main medic, and you seem to be receptive to feedback and have a drive to improve which is something a lot of people are missing

also dont apologize to the players on pugchamp that suck at their roles too. medic is just easy to blame so they'll always want to deflect blame onto you instead of taking ownerships of their own mistakes

best of luck :)

from what i've noticed with you pugging in NA, its been a couple things

a) you have 120 ping so thats going to suck obv

b) you typically play in pugs with people that hover anywhere from mid mainish to low invite, and when you don't have any real experience in 6s you're always going to be playing against players that are better than you. playing against players better than you is 100% the best way to improve, but the skill levels have to be somewhat similar and i do think you might be playing in pugs that might be out of your 'improveable' skillrange sometimes (compounded with the 120 ping)

joining a team will always be the best way to improve. you'll be playing with people generally around the same skill level as you that want to improve, and you'll consistently be scrimming against people of similar skill as well

it takes a special person to main medic, and you seem to be receptive to feedback and have a drive to improve which is something a lot of people are missing

also dont apologize to the players on pugchamp that suck at their roles too. medic is just easy to blame so they'll always want to deflect blame onto you instead of taking ownerships of their own mistakes

best of luck :)
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#4
4 Frags +

The biggest mistake I made as a medic main who sucked, and continued to suck was not forcing myself to play other roles at a comp level. In all aspects of life, I do believe in experiencing as many different perspectives to something as possible.

Reviewing demos is always good, like above, watching from other perspectives is good too (combo, STV)

The biggest mistake I made as a medic main who sucked, and continued to suck was not forcing myself to play other roles at a comp level. In all aspects of life, I do believe in experiencing as many different perspectives to something as possible.

Reviewing demos is always good, like above, watching from other perspectives is good too (combo, STV)
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#5
9 Frags +

Honestly I would say forget about pugs for learning the basics, they are ok for a while if your level is high enough but they are not the best representation of a real, actual TF2 match (most of the time games are unbalanced because of difference in skill, there is a big focus on individual DM instead of teamwork, etc...)

The best way to learn and improve in the game is just finding a team of like-minded, similar skill level players who are commited and willing to learn and improve, be it doing demo reviews, map talks or just scrimming together multiple times a week. It'll may suck at first if your skill is not enough but with sufficient time and dedication you'll notice how the team improves and the game becomes more fun and easy to play. Of course it's not always that simple to find a perfect team, especially in this silly community, but for the little I've seen on your streams you seem like a chill and dedicated player (also brit) so it shouldn't be that hard with a little bit of luck.

Honestly I would say forget about pugs for learning the basics, they are ok for a while if your level is high enough but they are not the best representation of a real, actual TF2 match (most of the time games are unbalanced because of difference in skill, there is a big focus on individual DM instead of teamwork, etc...)

The best way to learn and improve in the game is just finding a team of like-minded, similar skill level players who are commited and willing to learn and improve, be it doing demo reviews, map talks or just scrimming together multiple times a week. It'll may suck at first if your skill is not enough but with sufficient time and dedication you'll notice how the team improves and the game becomes more fun and easy to play. Of course it's not always that simple to find a perfect team, especially in this silly community, but for the little I've seen on your streams you seem like a chill and dedicated player (also brit) so it shouldn't be that hard with a little bit of luck.
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#6
20 Frags +

Hey Rahmed !

I truly advise you to not play pugs that much, it can be a really toxic environnement for you especially if you play medic in those. Playing medic as a whole, is not about being the best individually, but more about how much you can adapt to your own team. I've never considered myself a good medic, but i think i'm a really good teammate and that's why it's (sort of (lol)) working for our team. The best way for you to improve is to start building your skills around a bunch of fellows of yours and see how much you can enhance their skills in a game. Also when it comes to creativity in terms of ubers and team rotation try to look out papi's team vod, they always had good ideas of rotations and stuff.
Playing pugs nowadays, can be harsh especially since many players aren't looking to win but more of pumping their logs to look great. Don't be that guy !

Hey Rahmed !

I truly advise you to not play pugs that much, it can be a really toxic environnement for you especially if you play medic in those. Playing medic as a whole, is not about being the best individually, but more about how much you can adapt to your own team. I've never considered myself a good medic, but i think i'm a really good teammate and that's why it's (sort of (lol)) working for our team. The best way for you to improve is to start building your skills around a bunch of fellows of yours and see how much you can enhance their skills in a game. Also when it comes to creativity in terms of ubers and team rotation try to look out papi's team vod, they always had good ideas of rotations and stuff.
Playing pugs nowadays, can be harsh especially since many players aren't looking to win but more of pumping their logs to look great. Don't be that guy !
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#7
1 Frags +

In my opionion, from the point on where you started playing pugs til now, you've improved a ton. And I mean thats great! But if you're really commited to Medic, you should probably stop playing pugs for a while and try improving with a team and stick together with them.

WFlashThe best way to learn and improve in the game is just finding a team of like-minded, similar skill level players who are commited and willing to learn and improve, be it doing demo reviews, map talks or just scrimming together multiple times a week.
In my opionion, from the point on where you started playing pugs til now, you've improved a ton. And I mean thats great! But if you're really commited to Medic, you should probably stop playing pugs for a while and try improving with a team and stick together with them.

[quote=WFlash]
The best way to learn and improve in the game is just finding a team of like-minded, similar skill level players who are commited and willing to learn and improve, be it doing demo reviews, map talks or just scrimming together multiple times a week.[/quote]
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#8
1 Frags +

u gotta play in a team because pugs work entirely differently. i think those meds who learn how to play from pugs/mainly play pugs develop bad habits/understanding of situations and will sometimes hinder what u do. best. thing u can do is watch streams of officials from their pov so u can hear their comms and then think about what the med is doing at any given time

u gotta play in a team because pugs work entirely differently. i think those meds who learn how to play from pugs/mainly play pugs develop bad habits/understanding of situations and will sometimes hinder what u do. best. thing u can do is watch streams of officials from their pov so u can hear their comms and then think about what the med is doing at any given time
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#9
5 Frags +

First of the fact you made this post is evidence enough you are motivated to become better, so that's already a really good start. There's a lot of good advice here already so there isn't much to add. But something specific that I try to do when I play medic is stick to three kinds of calls:

  • My position
  • Uber percentages (both mine and the enemy medic's uber)
  • Team health

Basically I call where I am and where I'm going all the time so people know where they need to be (so I can improve my healing stats on the logs). I also call our own uber percentage a bunch and track the enemy's uber all the time (again, so I can have a higher uber count on the logs). And I call if our team health is shit, especially during fights. Because if it is, my teammates will die and I will probably die too (bad for logs). I think this is a good start for new meds. Focus on those calls and you're already a huge asset to your team.

Also something even more specific: if you're running Kritz, at 60% ask your team where the enemy med is, at 80% tell your demo to reload. At 100% laugh at your demo if he misses all his krit stickies.

First of the fact you made this post is evidence enough you are motivated to become better, so that's already a really good start. There's a lot of good advice here already so there isn't much to add. But something specific that I try to do when I play medic is stick to three kinds of calls:

[list]
[*] My position
[*] Uber percentages (both mine and the enemy medic's uber)
[*] Team health
[/list]

Basically I call where I am and where I'm going all the time so people know where they need to be (so I can improve my healing stats on the logs). I also call our own uber percentage a bunch and track the enemy's uber all the time (again, so I can have a higher uber count on the logs). And I call if our team health is shit, especially during fights. Because if it is, my teammates will die and I will probably die too (bad for logs). I think this is a good start for new meds. Focus on those calls and you're already a huge asset to your team.

Also something even more specific: if you're running Kritz, at 60% ask your team where the enemy med is, at 80% tell your demo to reload. At 100% laugh at your demo if he misses all his krit stickies.
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#10
5 Frags +

i would advise against watching high level demos at first, much better to watch your own if you possess the ability to think critically about the game and your own gameplay
as people above have said, get in a team, watch your own demos religiously and THINK about each mistake/situation and how you could have done things differently, you dont strike me as a stupid guy from what ive seen of you so it should be relatively easy
play lots of dm/mge/jump maps. i cant stress how important it is for med players to be mechanically sound (i know this is very funny coming from me of all people)
do this enough and youre set
https://youtu.be/SlCRfTmBSGs

i would advise against watching high level demos at first, much better to watch your own if you possess the ability to think critically about the game and your own gameplay
as people above have said, get in a team, watch your own demos religiously and THINK about each mistake/situation and how you could have done things differently, you dont strike me as a stupid guy from what ive seen of you so it should be relatively easy
play lots of dm/mge/jump maps. i cant stress how important it is for med players to be mechanically sound (i know this is very funny coming from me of all people)
do this enough and youre set
https://youtu.be/SlCRfTmBSGs
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#11
3 Frags +

I think if you have the capacity, calling a lot in pugs on medic can be really useful and can actually be good practise. I find that when I call more on med in pugs, I feel like I'm actually impacting the game.

Also I think you should only play pugs as med if you actually enjoy it. I found that playing med pugs burned me out because you have to deal with some real rodents sometimes. I may be repeating something someone else has said but picking up another class is suuuper useful, and understanding the limits of the other classes will certainly help you with awareness in game.

To play medic you need to be able to balance priorities unlike other classes so the best way to do this is to get to a point with your game knowledge where things don't really surprise you. For example you know that at X hp you probably need to use uber if a soldier is on you..

I say all this stuff not based on anything I've seen from you btw, I've never had any issues with you in pugs !

I think if you have the capacity, calling a lot in pugs on medic can be really useful and can actually be good practise. I find that when I call more on med in pugs, I feel like I'm actually impacting the game.

Also I think you should only play pugs as med if you actually enjoy it. I found that playing med pugs burned me out because you have to deal with some real rodents sometimes. I may be repeating something someone else has said but picking up another class is suuuper useful, and understanding the limits of the other classes will certainly help you with awareness in game.

To play medic you need to be able to balance priorities unlike other classes so the best way to do this is to get to a point with your game knowledge where things don't really surprise you. For example you know that at X hp you probably need to use uber if a soldier is on you..

I say all this stuff not based on anything I've seen from you btw, I've never had any issues with you in pugs !
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