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#70 Yet another shooting in Off Topic
ClandestinePzpoorly made arguments

1. See my previous post about the conditions of society when the second amendment was ratified. The chances of a man killing 30 people with a front loading musket in under an hour are pretty slim, and the idea that it could be done faster would have been foreign at the time. In the future when death rays are readily accessible to every person in America, I hope that our second amendment rights are protected so that everyone who ever gets angry can kill everyone around them because that's how washington would have done it.

2. Chinese people not owning guns can just as easily be tied to the fact that they spent an entire generation trying to build a perfect communist society. Saying it's solely for the purpose of oppressing its people might help Kissinger get off, but there is an entire history and ideology that you seem to be ignoring.

3. It's already been observed and noted that it's a lot harder to kill one person (let alone droves of them) with a knife. If you'll look back to the stats that whatisausername posted, the lion's share of homicides are committed without pre-meditation and with use of a gun. Yes if you really want to kill someone you can do it with an icicle, or a bobby pin, or your bare fucking hands, but that doesn't mean that just because it's possible means you should be able to down 20 people in that same time frame on a whim.

4. I'm not even going to address the "you're just on a knee-jerk reaction" bit with any sort of dignity. I said the exact same thing on natf2 when Holmes shot up a theater, and I voted for a representative that believes that banning civilians from owning 900 m/s muzzle velocity fully automatic assault rifles doesn't actually equate to meaningful gun control.

5. Your refutation of the chinese cases is on such shaky logic that I wonder if you even read that to yourself. It's the exact same reasoning that leads people to say IF THEY WANT A GUN THEY'LL GET A GUN WHOOPS WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING which then leads to preserving a status quo which involves orders of magnitudes more gun violence per year than other civilized nations. Arguing over whether or not gun control would have prevented this is almost as irrelevant as well because people will always swear by the GET ONE IF YOU WANT IT HARD ENOUGH logic. There's no way to tell if actual gun control laws could have prevented this, but what I said previously and what mustard said are both true. The prevalence and ease of access to deadly firearms is symptomatic of a nation that refuses to tackle the issue whatsoever (probably due to widespread allegiance to outdated ideals/logic of futility) and it is clear that we need to stop fetishizing weaponry as a society to see real change.

posted about 11 years ago
#3 wc3 custom games in Off Topic

fuck I might reinstall wc3 just to get some TD/Mauls on

posted about 11 years ago
#19 So what about it? in TF2 General Discussion

Snipers are the cancer, bombing is the cure

every time someone goes sniper just make his life miserable for the next 10 minutes and if he complains remind him that he is the DM equivalent of the taliban

posted about 11 years ago
#15 58 teams in cevo open!!! in TF2 General Discussion

player of the season will be paul "binary "BREAD OF THE BIG TITTIES" star" keeeeeeem

Also keep your eyes open for Finland's Finest to stob the giller

http://i.imgur.com/K4Gvw.png

posted about 11 years ago
#43 Yet another shooting in Off Topic

No, it's kind of the weapon too. Cars don't cause people to drive drunk, but it's sure as hell a lot fucking tougher to get a DUI without one.

posted about 11 years ago
#39 Yet another shooting in Off Topic
duder2sy_morphiendI'd really have enjoyed to see him kill 20 and wound a dozen more with his bare hands. Gun availability is an issue every where in the nation no matter where you live, the northeast isn't an exception to that at all. Even if he stole the guns, the availability of the guns he stole is a symptom of a nation that has no major political party opposed to the NRA. Yes, mental health service availability is also a major issue in the nation, but saying that the discussion should be limited to that is ignorant of the last half a year (really last 50+ years) and the other tragedies that are the reason that a title with shooting in it has to be preceded by "yet another."
The laws of the US aren't the reason this person did what he did. I'd like to bring your attention to (as far as I can tell) the greatest tragedy to ever hit a school (other than Justin Beiber's music teacher tell him to "stick with it")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis

385 deaths, mostly from explosives and 783 injured. In Russia. They have gun control laws too. Crazy people are going to kill, dude. The fact of the matter is the CULTURE of mental health needs to change in the US and make professionals more accessible and discussing your emotions, good or bad, more acceptable in this country.

Also, as a gun owner (I legally own 6 firearms) I can assure you that the process to obtain firearms in the US (specifically in my state, Illinois) is quite extensive, but not perfect. This person had a significant history of mental illness and today's events are merely summation of what was probably weeks or months of preparation.

I'd say you're cherry picking an example to make a case for gun ownership not being the "real" problem and instead people being it but you seem to have done that well enough yourself. Yes, Western society can be condemned for using fear to promote consumerism, but as waffleb said there really is nothing to lose by making guns scarcer. When is the last time a child was harmed in the cross-fire of a gang knife fight?

If you'll recall James Eagen Holmes amassed a small armory in under a month before he decided to go to town in Aurora. Yet somehow a law that stipulates that you can only buy one gun a month is contested in this nation. I guess the right to amass firearms is just as sacred as "bearing arms."

posted about 11 years ago
#29 Yet another shooting in Off Topic
duderThe argument here shouldn't be about gun control - but it will be. The argument shouldn't be about what made this person do this, but it will be. I've already heard video games, facebook and reality TV being blamed. None of those things killed those people today. The guns didn't kill those people. They didn't decide to spontaneously fire their bullets into people. A very sick person made all those decisions. It was not "easy" for him to obtain firearms. In fact, Connecticut and New Jersey have extremely strict gun control, schools are a gun-free zone and the shooter was below the legal age to lawfully own guns. We don't need more control of guns, we need to make help for sick people more available, and more acceptable. Mental health in America is a taboo subject - if you openly talk about your feelings, you think you're going to be persecuted. The law failed everyone who was killed today, but not because it was done with a gun, but because the shooter didn't get the help he needed. He would have killed today, whether it was with guns, explosives, knives, poisons, or even his own bare hands. He didn't get the help he needed - we let him down as a society - but not because he got some guns, but because the underlying reasons or conditions that made him want to kill couldn't be treated in time.

I'd really have enjoyed to see him kill 20 and wound a dozen more with his bare hands. Gun availability is an issue every where in the nation no matter where you live, the northeast isn't an exception to that at all. Even if he stole the guns, the availability of the guns he stole is a symptom of a nation that has no major political party opposed to the NRA. Yes, mental health service availability is also a major issue in the nation, but saying that the discussion should be limited to that is ignorant of the last half a year (really last 50+ years) and the other tragedies that are the reason that a title with shooting in it has to be preceded by "yet another."

posted about 11 years ago
#22 Yet another shooting in Off Topic
botmodetexas would threaten to secede if they couln't bear arms

???

what are we waiting for?

posted about 11 years ago
#14 Yet another shooting in Off Topic
MemphisVon4812622i live in america and the right to bear arms is extremely outdated and dumb
What makes you say that it is outdated and dumb?

The fact that it was authored in a time where modern guns were beyond imagination, war on American soil was a realistic possibility, and the population was not even a fifth of what it is today. We also treated diseases with mercury, bloodletting, and other treatments that we look at as hilarious today.

you can also replace "look at as hilarious" with "would condemn people for war crimes for"

posted about 11 years ago
#6 Yet another shooting in Off Topic

from my cold dead hands

posted about 11 years ago
#23 Favorite frag vids? in TF2 General Discussion

1.6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQhs3y2Lc-E
CS:S http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYEyIGLRqW0
TF2: reJ blows, here's why
quak: the contenders 2

posted about 11 years ago
#2 Demoman: What should I know before lobby/PUG'ing? in Q/A Help

Staying alive and controlling space. If you are doing both then you are helping your team, if you're doing neither you're a glorified civilian.

posted about 11 years ago
#343 feelings thread in Off Topic

That's what happens when you spend so much time toking

posted about 11 years ago
#30 ESEA: I want a refund. in TF2 General Discussion
G1what would infinite do

Tell you that he doesn't need to offer incentives to get people to play in his far superior league, with competition that is at a mid IM level AT LEAST.

posted about 11 years ago
#6 New Computer in Hardware

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Useful information contained above, SFW

posted about 11 years ago
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