In other words, your rage is fueled not purely by what you feel is an injustice against daddy's, but also because of various members in anyhow who you perceive are "destroying the community" for other unrelated actions I am honestly unaware about.

I didn't step in to "defend" Teejay and spiky because they're my "homeboys" or they asked me to, or whatever. I stepped in because I've been seeing repeated personal attacks, insults and plenty of low-blow accusations thrown against anyhow as a whole ever since the dispute, with your posts in this thread being some of the most rampant.

As I said, you go on and on about sportsmanship and hypocrisy, but have you even read the posts and actions made by daddy's members, or are you going to let your prior bias against anyhow's members cloud your judgment again? Changing their Steam names to things like "Can't win? Force it!", alluding to supposed "forced forfeits" in an unrelated 6v6 team, posting bitter and aggressive posts in this thread...Is that sportsmanship? How is that "accepting the fact that they lost the match when the decision was made"? It just reeks of dissatisfaction and hatred if you ask me.

The case for daddy's was weak from the start and I believe until now, correct me if I'm wrong, they still refuse to accept any responsibility and blame for the outcome of the match, and are utterly convinced that anyhow used the tiniest of technicalities to force a forfeit win while no wrong was committed on daddy's side.

On the completely unrelated offclassing note, I did not "have the balls" to say anything against Cuteman because I did not believe anything good would have come out of it. Yeah, he got mad. Yeah, you embarrassed him. Yeah, spammah also piled onto him with you. That was cool, and I applauded you for it. And yet, what good was accomplished? One person to realize he's a hypocrite? Does that mean he's going to stop? What's the net effect on the community?

I honestly do not know what's your beef against anyhow's members, or the people who you feel are single-handedly "ruining the Asian community", and truthfully I do not wish to know. To me, various members in both anyhow and daddy's are my friends, and I've spoken to plenty of them to get an insight on exactly what happened. What I see from your posts is that you have let your anger and bias cloud your judgment, which has in turn distorted the events and painted anyhow in an unfairly negative light. That's why I asked those questions to objectively clarify and make known what happened, which have unfortunately still not been answered by both sides together.

I'm happy that you are willing to put your aggression behind you, and I hope that both anyhow and daddy's are too. At the very least, we could at least end on a non-aggressive note, though I would still prefer if the truth was objectively made known not just from one side.

Honestly Jopper your posts seem to be filled with nothing but blind hatred which has clouded your judgment and rationality. I've read nothing but personal insults, underhanded accusations and most importantly, a complete lack of willingness to accept any responsibility in the matter from your and daddy's members' posts.

Take your response to snowblindfrog for example, in which you blatantly ignore all the valid and reasonable points he puts forward and dedicate a post to sarcastically reply to a single sentence. Or to Teejay's and Spiky's posts, which were replied to with either personal insults or hate-filled, sarcastic remarks.

At the very least the leader(s) of anyhow has (preferably have) taken the few minutes to respond to my questions to offer their perspective and to clarify the situation after the entire incident has been made public globally on these forums, while you continue to single out people or sentences to continue demonstrating just how angry you are at this supposed "injustice". Additionally, while their posts may show slight signs of irritation, they are surely more rational and level-headed than the aggression and accusations put forward by the other posters.

You go on and on about sportsmanship, but is sportsmanship really just repeatedly accomodating your opponents even when oneself is unable to or doesn't need to accomodate any further? How about having adequate preparations and properly declaring what needs to be declared before a match? Is it sportsman-like to repeatedly insult your opponents before, during and after a dispute and drag their name through the mud publicly while alluding to their supposed unethical tactics in an unrelated team in another game format?

Food for thought.

As a bystander who merely watched the SourceTV and heard a lot of conflicting information from both sides I may not be directly involved, but from the information I've seen (and there's plenty of it to be found in the answers Snowy have posted to my questions), the burden of responsibility (or lack thereof) is clear in this case. Should daddy's disagree, I invite them to answer my questions to offer their perspective for everyone to see, so the truth can be made clear and we can finally put this matter to rest.

I'm curious about this part. Did you declare your mercs for the regular season match?

Hi, I'm one of the spectators who was in SourceTV watching the pre-game, and I have a few questions that I'd like clarified, if I may (which preferably both teams would answer):

1. Did daddy's inform anyhow before the match about the mercs, whether through Steam or match comms?

2a. If yes, how did anyhow react?

2b. If no, why not?

3. Did daddy's use mercs themselves in the regular season match?

4. Did anyhow contact daddy's leaders during the playoff match, warning them that a forfeit would be called if the waiting dragged any longer?

5a. If yes, what action was taken by daddy's leader(s)?

5b. If no, why not?

6. Did daddy's communicate to anyhow that they were ready to play 7v9 at any point before anyhow left?

7. Did daddy's communicate to anyhow that they were getting their main roster player in before anyhow left?

8. To daddy's: I've heard hearsay that the two mercs are "basically members" or something similar, and hence the rules should not be "followed to the letter". If that is true, such as nasty having been mercing "since the start of the season", why are members like him and Rubiksguy not in the roster?

9. What does anyhow feel like daddy's could have communicated better, and vice versa?

10. Does anyhow feel that daddy's had been responsible and practiced due diligence (declared what they needed to declare, communicated information effectively, be punctual), and vice versa?

11. Does anyhow and daddy's agree that with better communication, responsibility and planning, all of this could have been avoided?

Thanks if you guys would take the time to answer. It would be much better if all leaders were consulted of their answers and opinions before a reply is made.