As a new TF2 player with about 300 hours in game at the moment, I've been interested in finding out what it takes to enter the competitive scene. 'What it takes' includes improving my skills/playing more. This thread however, seems to me, and I could obviously be wrong - since I'm new - it seems to me that none of this will help grow the TF2 competitive scene. 6v6 players could be right when they say that 9v9 is close to pubbing. 9v9 players could be right when they say that 6v6 players are arrogant. But what's the goal here? You really want the other side to give and say "OH! You are right!"? You guys should be more focused on promoting your game and helping the newbies (great job Vick with newbies mixes) so that you can grow your sport. If you don't get new players, which you ALL were at some point, your sport will die. Besides. Everyone knows Jumping > 6's and HL as a TF2 sport.