If a version of this was made. would we have anyone that would volunteer to test this out? i feel like some good points were made and we can tweak this enough to balance it.

i understand the spam thing, but that chat was total cancer regardless of me. i was just eager to hear that point discussed so that was on me. also dont even get me started on pugchamp bias when it comes to captianing. and im not on the offensive, im just saying that i shouldnt be thrown under the bus and told to hush just cuz im new to comp. feedback from new players is what comp really needs!

my skins thick hun, i dont get my feelings hurt. and anyone who plays with me can tell you how i am in game, and about playing it. youre forgetting that 90% of flame comes from toxic players who derail things for the luls.

i can say for a fact that i know what im doing, i know how to play, and that i see a lot of good things that are missed/lookedover because of people to busy circlejerking about where they are and hate change to the point where they see it as an attack

positive

the name says it all.

i know how the game works, and i feel like i have enough common sense and understanding to put in my input on something i plan on continuously doing. name calling and measuring power-levels arent going to get us anywhere. instead of just saying flat out no cuz "im new and shouldnt be listened to lmao", give me other options you think would be better, give me something i can do with my suggestion to make it better

you're right, a mid fight weapon change would be too much. i suggest something that changes the weapon when the player dies, or when that player runs out of ammo/resubs

this is moreso what i was getting at. that way all weapons can be used, but not to where they are overused. if that scout decides to waste those items at a bad time, making a bad play. his team would be punished for it with the next push or with whatever support comes to help the other scout. it really puts teamwork into play. the consistancy should be based around how well the player is with said item, not the item itself. and if that consistancy is major, it wont last long enough to completly ruin the entire match.

lol what im saying is. regardless of valve and their decisions, the community continuously puts out updates for items, mods, and maps. whetever the game lacks the community usually makes. if we continue giving this type of support, im sure changes will happen. as like with the mym update and valve acknowledging 6's officially

valve may not care, hell they may not even read this. but if we as a community do what we always do and show them that we dont care that they dont care, and keep bulding this game. they will listen, im sure they have kinda been this whole time. we just want it to show faster than they can probably do. but im patient and willing to wait

i feel like it wouldnt be a hassle
-valve already has a code that we could utilize to test this out. and im sure if we cant use that,
-one wouldnt be hard to make. like with mge mod, dm mod, or any other mod. tf2 has a lot of talented people in the community that im sure would love to help out
-when the timer goes out, its back to reg 6's with whitelist. that way everyone wins. no harm no foul

as a test maybe we could have something like the firt 2 rounds are free rounds. and then the rest are back to whitlisting. at least until we couuld get the code thing sorted out

maybe have the replacement for that weapon be stock until that person dies. or have it to where it subs the item with an item in a seperate loadout

if we're getting valve to modify the game why not have them balance the items we're pointing out are overpowered -_-[/quote]

they might be working on it as we speak, you never know. but in the meantime im suggesting we work with what we've got and continue to give them feedback.

weapon balacing is entirely up to valve, but they have shown that they are listening with the meet your match update with the nerfs/buffs. and those arent even permenant. who knows what they would do if we showed them the problems we're having in game, every game. i feel like we would get positive feedback as well as give it. i like your input

i think its funny how a lot of players are quick to call a player bad, but wont sign up to be coaches or give tips to put their money where their mouth is.

i havent even been here that long and even i know dirtymorts words should be taken with less than a grain of salt.
yeah im new, but 3 months of straight invite pugs have kinda given me a perspective on the game and how i think it should be played. also, scout is my worst class and i was playing that pug for fun. lol